the overall question is this is a gac, a government service enterprise. how did a government created enterprise have the sensuous headquarters and allow people to take anything he said $90 million over relatively short period of time. how is that possible? >> guest: it is possible because of the implied taxpayer guaranteed. what i mean by that is that virus money from investors in the debt market. so they go out to investors and 71 to raise $100 million or $10 million. what do you want for income that will make you private security? if you are fannie mae on how this government-sponsored auletta around you, you can borrow money at a far lower rate than other banks that don't have the implied guarantee of the taxpayer. so that difference between what u.s. and enterprise pay to borrow money from the public, and that is very lucrative and that is the subsidy and that is where the riches came from. c-span: do we know how many people work there? >> guest: well, now it's probably much smaller because the enterprises are shrinking. they are taxpayer owned. they a

integrated into the command and control at the fire and also the supporting ops centers whether it be the gac or other centers down there. maybe our military personnel can talk about that, or ray. >> it's important to note that we are the supporting effort to cal fire and we get called in when they are basically out of assets. we are working for cal fire, they are the incident commanders, we follow their coordination, typically we're the last ones in and the first ones out. we do have an on-going relationship with cal fire, i'm in contact with cal fire all the time. we have good situational awareness what's going on in the state of california. they normally put us in an alert stat us so we're prepared to respond in an attack mode. i don't often work with chief chaney in southern california, about a month ago we had 9 aircraft at our peak working fires throughout northern california if that answers your question. >> any other responses? >> i wanted to touch -- can you hear me now? i wanted to touch on that last topic as far as the command control because what we have here in the marine corps i

had we fixed it and freddie in the gac problem in the united states quakes simply makes that much more impossible that rdas. >> the argument at some point in the future we may do this again when never done this in the past and now it makes no sense at all to me. the reason they've never done this in the past is never had a foreclosure crisis like this. i don't think there's a lot of temptation for municipalities to do this after the foreclosure crisis. i mean, why would she do this unless you had a problem at the crane home values and foreclosures in negative equity to foreclosures and on and on. that's like someone in emergency rooms saying he was in cardiac risk and i did defibrillator because i thought if you few months and come back and say can you shuck my chest again? there's really not an incentive to do that unless it that circumstances the one with god. >> you made a couple comments i was going to make, but just one last thing. don't worry about pls. we should look elsewhere. it's not even clear he could use those to loans that an fha guarantee because those might be deemed se

. >> you've got three gac lovers. >> guacamolely. >> i love guacamole, it gets a bad rap, but it's madeood for our skin and heart health and preventing cancer and it has potassium which helps control our blood pressure. but loaded with so many great good for you nutrients and the healthy fats, mono unsaturated fatty acids and burn belly fats. >> cheese, everybody loves cheese and oh, i feel all bloated and everything it's not good for you. >> you really just need a small bit of real cheese. those fake cheeses like fat-free are loaded with extra sodium and chemicals and don't satisfy you. but a small portion of the real thing provides you with calcium and protein and it's so super satisfying, you can couple it with some vegetables, and it really goes a long way. >> tucker: and note for our viewers, when you deep in the gawk and bite, don't dip again. >> alisyn: double dip. and we need to hear how good wine is for us, stick around for wine. ♪ but, dad, you've got... [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident.