to respect the human rights of all human beings if there are abuses they will be put to court mr gaddafi in his ears also referred to he's an amazing terrorist and some of them frankly were criminals because i wasn't in gaza in two thousand and eleven and i remember whole parts of the city being looted that there were people hanging from lamp posts in many of the rabble so most of the pickup trucks they used at that time were stolen from the national oil company if you were in his position would you resort to the use of force. look you know you can't have a plan if you are running on that office and on. the one hand you praise gadhafi on the other hand you want to accuse him of crimes against humanity i'm not going to get into a judgment game of about a what do you why doesn't he i mean. what i would do is i would apply the libyan law and i would apply to full vigor with the help of the libyan army and the police . force and in doing that i respect human rights and respect the laws governing wars and even wars war and terror has rules that govern it and of course we respect human beings

convenient to pick a fight with iran and it was not convenient to become fight with syria so that says gaddafi played that role for conveniently played that role for the west especially america. def eventually handed over the two libyan officials suspected of carrying out the look of the bombing but the sanctions remained and fuel increasing dissent against the regime. one denies ation the libyan islamic fighting group formed by major he didn't returning. from afghanistan in the early one nine hundred ninety s. plotted to kill libya's leader and replace the gym area with an islamic state. it failed. crushed by a deficit curity forces many of his members mostly hailing from b.p.'s eastern region where locked up without trial in a squalid conditions in a brazilian prison in tripoli. in june one nine hundred ninety six after being denied access to their families and to lawyers and mistreated by guards the inmates protested some revolted some escaped. in the chaos an estimated one thousand two hundred seventy prisoners were allegedly shot dead by prison guards and the orders from gadhafi is intell

these sorts of things changed him i think i think if we go back to the few years before the coup gaddafi was a very dominant figure with all his companions and colleagues which he gathered around himself to to actually do it to do the coup he was not going to accept criticism he was not going to accept anybody even from the closest of his colleagues who actually did the coup with him to force him to change his mind or policy and anything and i think his his it was in his personality and his in his character always to be autocratic and to be dominating and he will not give in to other opinions so the blip precipitations for a dictator were were there in his character and as as things moved on and he started getting challenges not just from his own group adam how was and was adamant a military coup attempt in.

these sorts of things changed him i think i think if we go back to the few years before the coup gaddafi was a very dominant figure with all his companions and colleagues which he gathered around himself to to actually do it to do the coup he was not going to accept criticism he was not going to accept anybody even from the closest of his colleagues who actually did the coup with him to force him to change his mind or policy and anything and i think his his it was in his personality and his in his character almost to be autocratic and to be dominating and he will not give in to other opinions so the precipitations for a dictator were were there in his character and as as things moved on and he started getting challenges not just from his own group adam how was and was a military coup attempt in december one thousand nine hundred seventy nine hundred sixty nine story and then the student movement were very expressive against him i remember he used to come to terrible university and the students were very vocal very brave telling him look you and your colleagues the army officer you should

gaddafi was already doing business with french british italian and american companies their rights were always preserved by gadhafi and you know this very well so partly i think partly yes economic interest is always there but i think for an international alliance of forty five countries to support you and the resolution one thousand seven three to go into libya and protect civilians and many many new norway took part norway's sent airplanes and fighters and took part so many countries took part in this alliance that cannot be explained you really by economic interests with massacres messages are happening all over the world yes and we don't see the need to intervening to protect civilians in other countries and then let's let's let's not forget that what happened and this is those eight months twenty seven thousand five hundred sorties with sixty thousand bombs and missiles on libya the destruction of libya and turning it from a state sovereign state into a territory that we see today it is the action of the international community that has to come back and try to help us reinstate the

these sorts of things changed him i think i think if we go back to the few years before the coup gaddafi was a very dominant figure with all his companions and colleagues which he gathered around himself to to actually do it to do the coup he was not going to accept criticism he was not going to accept anybody even from the closest of his colleagues who actually did the coup with him to force him to change his mind or policy and anything and i think his his it was in his personality and his in his character almost to be autocratic and to be dominating and he will not give in to other opinions so the precipitations for a dictator were were there in his character and as as things moved on and he started getting challenges not just from his own group adam who was and was adamant a military coup attempt in december one thousand nine hundred seventy nine hundred sixty nine story and then the student movement were very expressive against him i remember he used to come to terrible university and the students were very vocal very brave telling him look you and your colleagues the army officer yo

these sorts of things changed him i think i think if you go back to the few years before the coup gaddafi was a very dominant figure with all his companions and colleagues which he gathered around himself to to actually do it to do the coup he was not going to accept criticism he was not going to accept anybody even from the closest of his colleagues who actually did the coup with him to force him to change his mind or policy and anything and i think his his it was in his personality and his in his character almost to be autocratic and to be dominating and he will not give in to other opinions so the precipitations for a dictator were were there in his character and as as things moved on and he started getting challenges not just from his own group adam who was and was adamant a military coup attempt in december one thousand nine hundred seventy nine hundred sixty nine story and then the student movement were very expressive against him i remember he used to come to terrible university and the students were very vocal very brave telling him look you know new colleagues the army officer yo

gaddafi was already doing business with french british italian and american companies their rights were always preserved by gadhafi and you know this very well so partly i think partly yes economic interest is always there but i think for an international alliance of forty five countries to support the u.n. resolution one thousand nine hundred three to go into libya and protect civilians and many many new norway took part norway's sent airplanes and fighters and took part so many countries took part in this alliance that cannot be explained you really by economic interests let's massacres messick as a happening all over the world yes and we don't see the need to intervening to protect civilians in other countries and then let's let's let's not forget that what happened and this is those eight months twenty seven thousand five hundred sorties with sixty thousand bombs and missiles on libya the destruction of libya and turning it from a state sovereign state into a territory that we see today it is the action of the international community that has to come back and try to help us reinstat

you know i'm not ruling out the country's interest in libya but we need to put it into perspective gaddafi was already doing business with french british italian and american companies their rights were always preserved by gadhafi and you know this very well so partly i think partly yes economic interest is always there but i think for an international alliance of forty five countries to support the u.n. resolution one thousand nine hundred three to go into libya and protect civilians and many many new norway took part norway's sent airplanes and fighters and took part so many countries took part in this alliance that cannot be explained you really by economic interests let's massacres messick as a happening all over the world yes and we don't see the need to intervening to protect civilians in other countries and then let's let's let's not forget that what happened and this is those eight months twenty seven thousand five hundred sorties with sixty thousand bombs and missiles on libya the destruction of libya and turning it from a state sovereign state into a territory that we see today i

libyhas been in turmoil ever since the 2011 nato-backed overthrow of strongman muammar gaddafi. this summer, some of the mosthe violent clin years erupted between rival factions, killing over 100 people in the capital tripoli. the chaos works in isis' favor, says the carnegie endowment's w frrey. >> i've always argued that the best, you know, recruiter forby isis is s political turmoil, its...fr its politicamentation because, you know, this createsd econompair. it creates political losers who gravitate towards radicalization. and just now, in the midst of all this fighting, you've seen an uptick in attacks by the islamic ste. >> reporter: ghassan salame is the u.n. special envoy to libya. >> the only way fight terrorist groups on the longer term and in a systematic way is that you have a national authority doing that, controlling its borders, controlling its territory and nymoving around to repress terrorist activity. do we have that now in libya?an ther is clearly no. >> reporter: it's a problem that vexes colonel ibrahim bin rabaa, the commander of counterterrorism forces in t

what's happening in libya and it hasn't got started but they'll mention varick crowell lynching of gaddafi i never condoned clinching i never was part of it i never praised it. as a matter of fact i objected to that whole approach to the resizing and the and the taking out of the deaf ear of bureaucrats have been consistent since two thousand and eleven in that regard human life is sacred and the human dignity is sacred no one should be punished without due process and due process was not given in two thousand and eleven as a matter of fact it could very well be that we have the state because we've never been to one yet formally been ambassador to the united arab emirates and a standing presidential candidate for president i just before the break we were talking about the difficulties with security in the country still pretty much ruled by various militia groups if you become president how would you go about restoring the state's monopoly on power first of all i believe there are two approaches to stabilization a more fundamental approach of stabilization is based on. a bottom to top rathe

this is not even gadhafi this is combined of gadhafi and i would say saddam hussein together this is gaddafi on steroids however it's worth some depth because he has billions of dollars to spend and the u.s. p.r. on lobbying and buying consensus and this is where the dangerous lie you a human rights watch of obviously spent a lot of time calling on governments to do something about human rights abuses in places like saudi arabia and western governments tend to you know you because of the oil deals in the commercial deals that right now though you do have mike pence . you have marco rubio rand paul republican right wing so that is coming out and saying you know this is not acceptable if this is true the need to be called do you think we're going to see some kind of sea change in the u.s. relationship with saudi arabia over what has happened to. you know two days ago i would have said no however. recent bipartisan letter demanding answers demanding an invest. ation and threatening sanctions with the citation of the act is a bit of a surprise that a pleasant one i would say because clearly this

heard about him i was so happy about it he was really someone who looked after the pictures in the gaddafi care. every day for almost forty years. has been walking down the long corridor to the basement of the tehran museum of contemporary art. under the shah he had been employed there as a driver. cause over a weekend of every day there were demonstrations against the shah here. a lot of students were on the street the campus is close by. we saw it all on the eleventh of february nine hundred seventy nine the revolution triumphed. then a few came from the revolutionary committee is. yes i think that's what it was called back then but i'm no longer exactly sure and they occupied the museum lounge they told my coworkers they could leave everyone else went home which i was the one they kept on the honest. around me and i knew nothing about heart but i realized that when they put me in charge of this treasure i had to pull myself together and take good care of it. max and monet rothko and picasso at first for russia because he saw their work says little more than paint on canvas. month by the

that what's happening in libya and it hasn't that started with a lynching varick crowell lynching of gaddafi i never condoned that clinching i never was part of it i never praised it. as a matter of fact i objected to that whole approach to the resizing and the and the taking out of the deaf ear a very krutz have been consistent since two thousand and eleven in that regard. life is sacred and the human dignity is sacred no one should be punished without due process and due process was not given in two thousand. eleventh as a matter of fact it could very well be that we have this state because we've never been fair in two thousand and eleven but. you should judge me on my words and deeds and not on other people's and i have been quite vocal about well listen i ever have to take a very short break now but we'll be back in just a few moments. most people think just stand out in this business you need to be the first one on top of the story or the person with the loudest voice of the biggest raid in truth to stand down whose business is just the dance the right questions and demand the right ans

this is not even gadhafi this is combined of gadhafi and i would say saddam hussein together this is gaddafi on steroids however it's worth some depth because he has billions of dollars to spend and the u.s. p.r. on lobbying and buying consensus and this is where the dangerous lie you a human rights what you've obviously spent a lot of time calling on governments to do something about human rights abuses in places like saudi arabia and western governments tend to you know you because of the oil deals in the commercial deals right now though you do have mike pence. says you have marco rubio rand paul republican right wing so that is coming out and saying you know this is not acceptable if this is true the need to be called do you think we're going to see some kind of sea change in the u.s. relationship with saudi arabia over what has happened to. you know two days ago i would have said no however. recent bipartisan letter demanding answers demanding an invest. ation and threatening sanctions with the citation of the man jet ski act is a bit of a surprise and a pleasant one i would say because

. >> akram: but when i hit that point and got into misrata and stood on gaddafi's body, any dream willch country. why doesn't it look like dubai? >> kadaria: well, i hate to be on this show and talk nigeria down you know what it is, because you hear all these things all the time. so yes there is corruption, it is about corruption, it's about the fact that the resources that are supposed to be used for people aren't being used for people. years of military rule meant that people were brutalized. there was a fight against thinking. imagine if they were all well-educated, if they had access to finance. i believe if you're a black person, whether you're african or you're african-american, you're never going to get any respect unless there is a successful black nation. >> anthony: even if you've been traveling nearly nonstop for 15 years like me, there are places that snap you out of your comfortable world view, take your assumptions, and your prejudices, and turn them upside down. they lead you to believe that maybe, there is hope in the world. are we there yet? you don't always use your s

but when it hit that point, and gaddafi's body, any dream will come true. >> this is a big oil-rich countryai? >> i hate to be on this show and talk niger down. you know, you hear these things all the time. yes, there is corruption. it is about corruption. it's about the fact that that the resources that are supposed to be used for people aren't being used for people. years of military rule meant people that brutalized. there was a fight against thinking. imagine if they were all well educated f they had access to finance. i believe if you are a black person, whether you're african or african-american, you're never going to get any respect unless there is a successful black nation. >> even if you've been traveling nearly nonstop for 15 years like me, there are places that snap you out of your comfortable world view, take your assumptions and your prejudices and turn them upside down. they lead you to believe that maybe there is hope in the world. you want the most torque? you got it. you want the best towing. all yours. or maybe you want best-in-class fuel economy. no problem. or how about

mbs is acting like colonel gaddafi.: and he is very close to jared kushner from the son-in-law and senior adviser to president trump. has the white house said anything about what is happening right now to jamal khashoggi? >> they are saying that are following the story, which is their way of sayining, we don't really want to say anything. trump and jared kushner are very close to mbs. they've backed him as he took out rival members of his family and basically took control of the kingdom. trump was an last recount much he loved the saudi king, they just wanted to she just wanted them to pay more for their defense. they're not when it say anything. the canadians put out a mild rightsriticizing women's in saudi arabia. the saudis went crazy and checked out the canadian ambassador, launched an online campaign attacking canada. where was the u.s. when these two allies were having a rouh? they are staying out of it. if this. making more public accusations about saudi's role of the killings, that i suspect the americans will t

this is not even gadhafi this is combined of gadhafi and i would say saddam hussein together this is gaddafi on steroids however it's worth some depth because he has billions of dollars to spend and the u.s. p.r. on lobbying and buying consensus and this is where the dangerous lie you a human rights what you've obviously spent a lot of time calling on governments to do something about human rights abuses in places like saudi arabia and western governments tend to you know you because of the oil deals in the commercial deals right now though you do have mike pence. you have marco rubio rand paul republican right wing so that is coming out and saying you know this is not acceptable if this is true the need to be called do you think we're going to see some kind of sea change in the u.s. relationship with saudi arabia over what has happened to. you know two days ago i would have said no however. recent bipartisan letter demanding answers demanding an invest. ation and threatening sanctions with the citation of the act is a bit of a surprise that a pleasant one i would say because clearly this ti

loose control, because libya has been in disarray ever since the nato-ck ed overthrow of muammar gaddafi in 2011. he had ruled the natiod for decades evented migrants from sailing to europe. today, the oil-rich couny remains divided: a u.n.-backed government sits in tripoli, a rival administration rules in the east, and in between:us numero well-armed militias. recently, violence has re- erupted between rival militias in trikipoliing dozens. soda says trafficks have taken advantage of the power vacuum, and more than 1,000 miles of lirobyan coastline facing . once migrants get to the libyan coast, traffickers send them off to europe in overcroed, unsafe boats. more than 70,000 migrants have arrived in eure so far this ar. most must first cross the sahara desert. it's stisriking how similar it to the desert in the american southwest. botonh places are on the line of an immigration crisis, with migrants from politicallyim unstableverished countries in the south, trying to reach wealthier countries in the north. the difference is, in the us, that final frontie is the desert. here in libya, i

on one hand she could light up a room in a party at london and the next day be challenging colonel gaddafions that she had in her head? i think yes. in some senses, war was her sanctuary pulse it isa senses, war was her sanctuary pulse it is a bit cliched but i think that was true. but she also had a lovely life here, lovely friends, a great life here, lovely friends, a great life as well. she wanted a family andi life as well. she wanted a family and i think in some senses she wa nted and i think in some senses she wanted a normal life and that was one of the tragedies of the film, there was this unattainable goal of having normalcy because she kept getting pulled back and pulled back to go and tell the stories. getting pulled back and pulled back to go and tell the storieslj getting pulled back and pulled back to go and tell the stories. i wonder what she would have made of her life being made into a biopic?” what she would have made of her life being made into a biopic? i think she would probably laugh! but in some ways, i think the film carries on her work. in a sense, it continues she

and secondly, he is more and more copying gaddafi, saddam, orsome type of dictatorial leadership.ever is coming after mohammed bin salman is not going to be anti—saudi. if anything, they will be much more effort to build relationships with the west. thirdly, i cannot imagine any time soon any western thirdly, i cannot imagine any time soon any western leader would be willing to shake hands with the crown prince. and this is a very major thing for saudi arabia, because as i said, it was previously different from iraq, syria. they very much relied on a cosy relationship with western political leadership. this will essentially create, i think, leadership. this will essentially create, ithink, a leadership. this will essentially create, i think, a crisis within. create, i think, a crisis if leadership. this will essentially create, i think, a crisis if the us indicated is willing to look for an alternative, i think we will hear more and more new voices from the al saud family that will express their unhappiness, disappointment and grievances with mohammed bin salman. because there are