and kickers rarely miss, only 5 out of 1200 extra points would miss last season and commissioner gadelle automatically 7 points when they score a touchdown and if they go go for a 2 point conversion they would have to approve making that change. >>> 6:15 is the time, sal doesn't like it. >> why not, take some time out. >> it is one of those things where i have been watching since i was three. just give them 7 points. >> that is true. >> all right. now, i'm sure, you can always opine on this. hit me up on twitter or dave and facebook too, let's go out and look, i was installing and our news chopper was just about to this area on southbound near auto mall parkway and it just may have arrived here and 680, there was some grass fire in the area and they had to close some of the lanes briefly. can you put up monument real quickly? >> no, we can't. southbound 680, of course it goes to there as we take it. that is the story of my life. they are backed up for a 15 to 20 minute delay no major problems. 280 northbound, that traffic is looking good getting up to highway 17. the sunrise looks like 6