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he witnessed the suffering under regime of gadhafi and saw brutality of gadhafi killing his own people using all type weapons. he was the first american representative to go to benghazi, my hometown. every member of the delegation came to this country. when i speak about steven they say yes, chris, we know him. he talked to the people. he meet with the people. he knows their suffering. the main thing, that he trusts them and when they rised against gadhafi, he supported them. chris, it is a great loss for libya. we lost him as a friend and man that understands the history of the people of libya before and after. chris, he built the bridge between libya and the united states. a bridge of love, of hope. we never believed one day we would be able to raise against this dictatorship. i knew chris after he came back. i knew chris more. he would come to the house and we play tennis. after the tennis we come back home and have libyan breakfast. he is a man of principles and he is serious. i agree he never speaks about himself, what achievement he made. he is a guy when you look for him again.
he witnessed the suffering under regime of gadhafi and saw brutality of gadhafi killing his own people using all type weapons. he was the first american representative to go to benghazi, my hometown. every member of the delegation came to this country. when i speak about steven they say yes, chris, we know him. he talked to the people. he meet with the people. he knows their suffering. the main thing, that he trusts them and when they rised against gadhafi, he supported them. chris, it is a...
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no peace for post gadhafi libya as the country's two major cities are attacked either in aid strikes in security headquarters in tripoli a car bomb detonates in benghazi. in truth under attack in greece a journalist show solidarity with whistleblowers who say they're being silenced for trying to expose government along. two am in moscow i met très a taking bring you today's top stories and a look back at the week's news here on r t an explosion in syria's capital is wounded at least eleven people the blast happened near heavily guarded military and government buildings no one's admitted to the attack but all titling militant groups have been behind recent similar incidents meanwhile there's been another drive toward a diplomatic solution to the syrian conflict is russia's foreign minister met with u.n. peace envoy lakhdar brahimi dr ali mohamed editor in chief of the syria tribune says no so a resolution can solve the crisis while the west seems determined to oust president assad. the west. should dictate the outcome of this. sagal there will be no solution because they will their re
no peace for post gadhafi libya as the country's two major cities are attacked either in aid strikes in security headquarters in tripoli a car bomb detonates in benghazi. in truth under attack in greece a journalist show solidarity with whistleblowers who say they're being silenced for trying to expose government along. two am in moscow i met très a taking bring you today's top stories and a look back at the week's news here on r t an explosion in syria's capital is wounded at least eleven...
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of this coming a little more than a year since we so corp revolution i'll still be formulated by gadhafi and what. is the polarized nation of people colorization sentence for people wanting a gun battles on the streets we also know that for weeks now the city of funny when it has been and to see and from there we saw how when pictures of death and destruction. he's point to sneer that when it's focus on the best ever carry security situation with me as i came in he's the editor of the pan-african news wire joining me live now from detroit so why is the libyan government unable to bring security to the country a year after gadhafi was deposed. because the people who are claiming to be the government of libya right now did not install themselves in power they were installed in fact by the pentagon the central intelligence agency and in the other line a treaty organization these elements which composed the general national congress which they are calling themselves now have no coherent political ideology they have no real cohesive political organization and consequently what we're seeing no
of this coming a little more than a year since we so corp revolution i'll still be formulated by gadhafi and what. is the polarized nation of people colorization sentence for people wanting a gun battles on the streets we also know that for weeks now the city of funny when it has been and to see and from there we saw how when pictures of death and destruction. he's point to sneer that when it's focus on the best ever carry security situation with me as i came in he's the editor of the...
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that walk into a congressman's office there say hey i'm here on behalf of libya here on behalf of gadhafi or mubarak and the have a conversation about what they want done that very same day they'll write a check the write a thousand dollars two thousand dollars check and what's worse the bundle that contribution with other people from their firm so not only will they write a two thousand dollars check they'll have other people at their firm or a thousand dollars checks two thousand dollars checks five hundred dollars checks so by the end of the day after one meeting one congressman has a few thousand dollars because that money come directly from the dictator no but is that money ultimately coming from the dictator i think so unbelievable do we know any specific legislation or is it just kind of speculated that you know it's just so massively influence that. that basically legislation that we have toward libya syria all these countries is coming in from the influence the sphere of influence and there's a lot of specific legislation with one that really comes to mind for me is the example o
that walk into a congressman's office there say hey i'm here on behalf of libya here on behalf of gadhafi or mubarak and the have a conversation about what they want done that very same day they'll write a check the write a thousand dollars two thousand dollars check and what's worse the bundle that contribution with other people from their firm so not only will they write a two thousand dollars check they'll have other people at their firm or a thousand dollars checks two thousand dollars...
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and many people who have met all three -- i did not immediate gadhafi or saddam hussein but but assad was different, relatively normal, and he brought people in that gave people hope that maybe this would be different than what had preceded it. his inaugural speech was enlightened. he daneed to criticize his father's policies. so this created much of that hope. and over the years, though, as happens, as is mentioned earlier you get more comfortable with power. the sick coe pants of an authoritarian leader are all over the place. i think outsiders start to believe that what his followers were telling his, the well-being of the countries synonymous with his will being. if something says you're going to save the country every day, it's only human nature you're going to believe that and your head gets swelled. when i started to see the changes is after 2005, and particularly in 2007, and that is when he survived what he called the worst the bush administration had against him, had tried against him. because syria was -- opposed the u.s. led invasion of iraq in 2003. the syrian government
and many people who have met all three -- i did not immediate gadhafi or saddam hussein but but assad was different, relatively normal, and he brought people in that gave people hope that maybe this would be different than what had preceded it. his inaugural speech was enlightened. he daneed to criticize his father's policies. so this created much of that hope. and over the years, though, as happens, as is mentioned earlier you get more comfortable with power. the sick coe pants of an...
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getting ready for gadhafi. wasn't enough to send verbal accolades. -- this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so that al-qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >> cenk: did you hear that? that was obama's secret plot. this lunatic, by the way other than being insane, is saying we should not have gotten rid of the dictators mubarak and gadhafi. what a swell guy. it only gets worse. one more. >> call it arab spring, call it arab winter, whatever you want to but it was disastrous unless you were wanting a new ottoman empire to take place and that's what this administration helped jump start. >> cenk: ah-ha! louis got him. turns out obama is trying to start a new ottoman empire! yeah, yeah that's the ticket. and then he's going to call cub
getting ready for gadhafi. wasn't enough to send verbal accolades. -- this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so that al-qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >> cenk: did you hear that? that was obama's secret plot. this lunatic, by the way other than being insane, is saying we should not have gotten rid of the dictators mubarak and gadhafi. what a swell guy. it only gets worse. one more. >> call it arab spring, call it arab winter,...
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no peace for the post gadhafi libya as the country's two major cities are attacked strikes the security headquarters in tripoli a car bomb detonated in benghazi. truth under attack in greece a journalist showing solidarity with whistleblowers who have been silent trying to expose government wrong. in the streets of moscow russia's most radical nationalists emerge in the capital and nationwide aiming to stir up the visions of the country's day of unity. in the back of the day's top stories and the latest developments this is the weekly . well voters in florida lined up to cast their ballots in early voting those in new york are lining up for fuel rations and blankets much of the big apple remains paralyzed but tens of thousands still without power heat or hot water nearly a week after superstorm sandy ripped through here. with the political fallout from the disaster. she was a storm the size of europe and it might be a game changer for america's upcoming us presidential election early voting was suspended as hurricane sandy ripped through the u.s. east coast monday causing eight and a ha
no peace for the post gadhafi libya as the country's two major cities are attacked strikes the security headquarters in tripoli a car bomb detonated in benghazi. truth under attack in greece a journalist showing solidarity with whistleblowers who have been silent trying to expose government wrong. in the streets of moscow russia's most radical nationalists emerge in the capital and nationwide aiming to stir up the visions of the country's day of unity. in the back of the day's top stories and...
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the syrian president bashar assad that he'll follow the fate of the former libyan leader moammar gadhafi the first as assad said in an exclusive interview to r.t. that he has no plans to leave office the state media department had said that assad is doomed in his statement to your channel he said he would not leave syria we know this very well because he will not be able to leave syria and his people not managed to leave the country for free syrian army will not let him do this he will not get out of syria alive you'll be lucky if you use the same fate as market guffey so what we're witnessing is an increase on the ground in terms of the violence inside syria while the syrian opposition really struggling to try and force for united group to try and deal with the situation. meanwhile the opposition's local coordination committee in syria has announced they are withdrawing from the sea and c s n c rather which operates in exile the president of the arab lawyers association says western backed efforts to create a revolution in syria from outside have failed. because the only credibility it
the syrian president bashar assad that he'll follow the fate of the former libyan leader moammar gadhafi the first as assad said in an exclusive interview to r.t. that he has no plans to leave office the state media department had said that assad is doomed in his statement to your channel he said he would not leave syria we know this very well because he will not be able to leave syria and his people not managed to leave the country for free syrian army will not let him do this he will not get...
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group in the country threatened president said he would follow the fate of libya's leader moammar gadhafi fired on musri they have the media department says asad is doomed. in his statement to your channel he said he would not leave syria we know this very well because he will not be able to leave syria he and his people not money to leave the country the free syrian army will not let him do this he will not get out of syria long enough you'll be lucky if you reach the same fate as. meanwhile the syrian opposition remains locked in talks in qatar trying to consolidate its alliance against president asif this has deadly bombing ripped through the country where the latest attack killing at least twenty soldiers the syrian national council the main opposition group has come under western pressure to accept a unity plan i mean growing frustration from other different factions see it like the new leader on friday appealing for more weapons to help out the president of the arab world. says western attempts to gain political influence in syria are far failing. the only credibility it had was wit
group in the country threatened president said he would follow the fate of libya's leader moammar gadhafi fired on musri they have the media department says asad is doomed. in his statement to your channel he said he would not leave syria we know this very well because he will not be able to leave syria he and his people not money to leave the country the free syrian army will not let him do this he will not get out of syria long enough you'll be lucky if you reach the same fate as. meanwhile...
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sims three so cooper in relation to the former you were in the gadhafi. polarized nation of people polarizations in terms of what people want to gun battles on the streets we also know that for weeks now the city of funny when good has been and to see and from there we saw how when pictures of death and destruction there were of the pan-african news wire says the revolution has turned the clock back for libya by several decades. historically during the period of the ottoman empire as well as a tie of colonialism the country was divided basically in the three different regions of phase on in the south. in the west and of course or annika in the east and as a result of the independence movement in libya after nine hundred fifty one and of course after the seizure of power back of daffy and his cohorts in one nine hundred sixty nine there was a concerted effort to bring about some type of national identity and cohesiveness inside of libya all of that has fallen apart over the last year and this is why we're having these type of sectional conflicts inside the
sims three so cooper in relation to the former you were in the gadhafi. polarized nation of people polarizations in terms of what people want to gun battles on the streets we also know that for weeks now the city of funny when good has been and to see and from there we saw how when pictures of death and destruction there were of the pan-african news wire says the revolution has turned the clock back for libya by several decades. historically during the period of the ottoman empire as well as a...
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well of course if you remember the model really is libya at least in libya the opposition to gadhafi controlled some eastern cities like to see they could set up a government on their own territory so far we're talking about people in exile being brought together various groups who live outside syria not many of them for many years or more recently been and so any kind of remotely legitimate rebel government surely has to have a base inside syrian territory but so far these leaders of the rebellion don't seem to be very happy about putting heads above the parapet actually on the ground in syria where of course it's very risky option now mark there are some states are discussing our arms here for example that france is promising to consider selling arms supplies to syrian rebels if it's not going to breach the e.u. is our arms embargo or there are some that are saying perhaps the arms embargo should be reversed or perhaps mr armey we're all being naive and have been funneled into syria already for quite some time well clearly arms have been arriving in syria quite some time some of th
well of course if you remember the model really is libya at least in libya the opposition to gadhafi controlled some eastern cities like to see they could set up a government on their own territory so far we're talking about people in exile being brought together various groups who live outside syria not many of them for many years or more recently been and so any kind of remotely legitimate rebel government surely has to have a base inside syrian territory but so far these leaders of the...
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no peace for post gadhafi of libya as the country's major cities are attacked a grenade strikes the security headquarters in tripoli a car bomb detonates invade gaza. truth under attack in greece of journalists show solidarity with whistleblowers who say they're being silenced while trying to expose government wrongs. six am in moscow i'm at treasure bring you today's top stories and a look back at the week's news on r t an explosion in syria's capital's wounded at least eleven people the blast happened near a heavily guarded military and government buildings no one submitted to the attack but al qaeda linked militant groups have been behind similar recent incidents meanwhile there's been another drive toward a diplomatic solution to the syrian conflict as russian for as russia's foreign minister met with un peace envoy lakhdar brahimi sergey lavrov insists that western states priority of regime change in syria is destructive in leads to more bloodshed ali mohammed editor in chief of the syria tribune says no resolution can solve the crisis while the u.s. and its allies seem determined to ou
no peace for post gadhafi of libya as the country's major cities are attacked a grenade strikes the security headquarters in tripoli a car bomb detonates invade gaza. truth under attack in greece of journalists show solidarity with whistleblowers who say they're being silenced while trying to expose government wrongs. six am in moscow i'm at treasure bring you today's top stories and a look back at the week's news on r t an explosion in syria's capital's wounded at least eleven people the blast...
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and peaceful post gadhafi libya as the country's two major cities are attacked a grenade strikes the security at tripoli and a car bombs detonated in benghazi. and truth under attack in greece journalists show solidarity with whistleblowers who are being silenced for trying to expose government problems. and look back at the past seven days top stories and the latest developments this is the weekly. while voters in florida lined up to cast their ballots in early voting those in new york and nine in up for fuel rations and blankets much of the big apple remains paralyzed and tens of thousands still without power heat or hot water nearly a week after superstorm sandy ripped through his arteries marina portnoy with the political fallout from the disaster. she was a storm the size of europe and it might be a game changer for america's upcoming us presidential election early voting was suspended as hurricane sandy ripped through the u.s. east coast monday causing eight and a half million homes and businesses to lose power with the death toll expected to surpass one hundred president barac
and peaceful post gadhafi libya as the country's two major cities are attacked a grenade strikes the security at tripoli and a car bombs detonated in benghazi. and truth under attack in greece journalists show solidarity with whistleblowers who are being silenced for trying to expose government problems. and look back at the past seven days top stories and the latest developments this is the weekly. while voters in florida lined up to cast their ballots in early voting those in new york and...
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the country has threatened president assad he would follow the fate of levy is the leader moammar gadhafi this aspect shot alas it said in his exclusive interview with r.t. he has no plans to leave syria father masri the head of the f.s.a. media department who is listening to the words of the president says it is doomed. in his statement to your channel he said he would not leave syria we know this very well because he will not be able to leave syria he and his people will not money to leave the country the free syrian army will not let him do this he will not get out of syria long enough you'll be lucky if he meets the same fate as more gadhafi. now the western backed syrian opposition is still locked in talks over the creation of a unified group to forge a broader alliance against the government the syrian national council vying to keep its main role has chosen and new leader appealing for more weapons to help oust assett an anti-war activist prime backer says the opposition was never after a peaceful solution to the conflict if the opposition is saying to the assad government into the
the country has threatened president assad he would follow the fate of levy is the leader moammar gadhafi this aspect shot alas it said in his exclusive interview with r.t. he has no plans to leave syria father masri the head of the f.s.a. media department who is listening to the words of the president says it is doomed. in his statement to your channel he said he would not leave syria we know this very well because he will not be able to leave syria he and his people will not money to leave...
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not mentioned in the guide book bani walid a desert town this remain loyal to formally to colonel gadhafi it's just a few hours dry southeast of the traditional tourist destination tripoli but it's a world away from the safe environment the two guides the pitching. the town's become the scene of some of the fiercest fighting since the libyan uprising last year but despite reports of indiscriminate shelling and gas attacks on the local population at the hands of the libyan army there's been an almost total media blackout in the. r.t. ran the story for more than a fortnight before anyone else picked it up back in london and despite libya being showcased it seems that bani walid has once again been conveniently left out of the conversation when i saw this. it was of course with surprise and i came. back of the situation of the moment in libya and if we have so many people it means our situation is that it becoming more stable and we can think for next season to do something with libya and it's a wonderful country so we are. good about what's happening at the moment i knew you were legal but
not mentioned in the guide book bani walid a desert town this remain loyal to formally to colonel gadhafi it's just a few hours dry southeast of the traditional tourist destination tripoli but it's a world away from the safe environment the two guides the pitching. the town's become the scene of some of the fiercest fighting since the libyan uprising last year but despite reports of indiscriminate shelling and gas attacks on the local population at the hands of the libyan army there's been an...
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group there threatened to president assad that he would follow the fate of libya's leader moammar gadhafi according to the hard masri he's the head of the f.s.a. as media department assad is doomed. channel he said he would not leave syria we know this very well because he will not be able to leave syria he and his people will not manage to leave the country the free syrian army will not let him do this he will not get out of syria line you'll be lucky if he meets the same fate as. well meanwhile the syrian opposition remains locked in talks in qatar trying to consolidate its alliance against president bashar al assad this as a deadly bombing ripped through the country with the latest attack killing at least twenty soldiers there the syrian national council which is the main opposition group has come under western pressure to a separate unity plan this amid growing frustration from other dissident factions now on friday the s.n.c. elected a new leader and issued appeals for what about that is to help out assad meanwhile the president of the arab lawyers association. says that western atte
group there threatened to president assad that he would follow the fate of libya's leader moammar gadhafi according to the hard masri he's the head of the f.s.a. as media department assad is doomed. channel he said he would not leave syria we know this very well because he will not be able to leave syria he and his people will not manage to leave the country the free syrian army will not let him do this he will not get out of syria line you'll be lucky if he meets the same fate as. well...
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no peace for post gadhafi libya as the country's two major cities are attacked and grenade strikes the security headquarters in tripoli while a car bomb was detonated in. truth under attack in greece journalists show solidarity with whistleblowers who are being silenced while trying to expose a government wrong. found swastikas fly in the streets of moscow russia's most radical nationalists emerge in the capital and nationwide aiming to stir up divisions on the country's day of unity. with the stories that made headlines this week this is the weekly on our with me rory solution and while voices in florida lined up to cast their ballot in early voting those in new york are lining up for fuel rations and blankets much of the big apple remains paralyzed with tens of thousands still without power heat or hot water all nearly a week after superstorm sandy ripped through his arteries marina portnoy with the political fallout from the disaster. she was a storm the size of europe and it might be a game changer for america's upcoming u.s. presidential election early voting was suspended as hurr
no peace for post gadhafi libya as the country's two major cities are attacked and grenade strikes the security headquarters in tripoli while a car bomb was detonated in. truth under attack in greece journalists show solidarity with whistleblowers who are being silenced while trying to expose a government wrong. found swastikas fly in the streets of moscow russia's most radical nationalists emerge in the capital and nationwide aiming to stir up divisions on the country's day of unity. with the...
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he was wrong about gadhafi. he was wrong about how to conduct the operation to support the rebels in contrast to the president's approach. and he's wrong now. look, if you're a senator, you make your living talking to the press, that's what john mccain gets his respect for now. he was a great american during the vietnam war, but let's face it, the respect he gets now, because he appears on the press, if you live by the press, he should be talking to people right now about why he wasn't in that hearing. >> now, mccain attacked democrats for going after condoleezza rice an intel failures in iraq before she was nominated for secretary of state. here's some of that audio. here it is. >> every intelligence agency in the world including the british believe that iraq had weapons of mass destruction. it was an entirely different situation. >> i mean, that's off the rails, isn't it? >> before there was president bush, before dick cheney convinced president bush to go invade iraq, there was senator mccain and senator lieb
he was wrong about gadhafi. he was wrong about how to conduct the operation to support the rebels in contrast to the president's approach. and he's wrong now. look, if you're a senator, you make your living talking to the press, that's what john mccain gets his respect for now. he was a great american during the vietnam war, but let's face it, the respect he gets now, because he appears on the press, if you live by the press, he should be talking to people right now about why he wasn't in that...
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everything we -- gadhafi left for us just with destructions. in every libyan city you find what gadhafi left is destruction behind him. i want to tell you that we are confident, that we will achieve our goals. but we cannot achieve our goals just by what i am telling you now. the new government, the new prime minister was elected, and he has to present his government in the next few days. and this, there is a great respondent for the new -- respondent for the new, for this new government. i don't want the united states or our alliance or our friends to lose confidence. i want them to be confident in libyan future. the libyans are very serious about their future. they sacrifice more than 25,000 young people and children and women were or killed during the eight months of war. then, again, the libyan people who stand for gadhafi, they stand for the terrorists also. we -- the one who take responsible for the action against the american embassy are not the libyan people. they are small group of terrorists, but the libyan people, they went out to th
everything we -- gadhafi left for us just with destructions. in every libyan city you find what gadhafi left is destruction behind him. i want to tell you that we are confident, that we will achieve our goals. but we cannot achieve our goals just by what i am telling you now. the new government, the new prime minister was elected, and he has to present his government in the next few days. and this, there is a great respondent for the new -- respondent for the new, for this new government. i...
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he was trailed by gadhafi security men who were obviously intimidating to other tourists. as she recounted it, he reached over to one of the men, stole his camera out of his hands and started taking pictures of the men who had been following him. they were so dumbfounded that they had to laugh. after a quick conversation, chris convinced them to stand down. from a colleague at the embassy in tripoli i learned chris had a humble style of diplomacy libyans responded to after he became ambassador and returned to tripoli, the embassy posted a photo, ordering a juice in a cafe. that went viral because libyans were amazed at the site of a senior government official doing mundane activities without a huge entourage and demanding vip treatment. chris had a great knowledge of libyan history and culture. he would often crack jokes with government counter parts. not just in arabic but in the libyan dialect, which the libyans loved to hear him speak. another told me when i saw him in may as newly appointed ambassador in tripoli he had not changed, despite the promotion and accolades.
he was trailed by gadhafi security men who were obviously intimidating to other tourists. as she recounted it, he reached over to one of the men, stole his camera out of his hands and started taking pictures of the men who had been following him. they were so dumbfounded that they had to laugh. after a quick conversation, chris convinced them to stand down. from a colleague at the embassy in tripoli i learned chris had a humble style of diplomacy libyans responded to after he became ambassador...
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. >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. republicans are walking tall in public but hanging their heads behind closed doors. john boehner struck a defiant tone during a news conference today. he blamed the president and democrats for stalling negotiations on a debt deal. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> tough talk. it's also completely divorced from reality. right before the news conference, boehner met with treasury secretary tim geithner who offered republicans a detailed plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. it included $1.6 trillion in new revenue from tax hikes on the rich. the white house is giving $400 billion in savings from medicare and entitlements. there's also a request for at least $50 billion in infrastructure
. >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. republicans are walking tall in public but hanging their heads behind closed doors. john boehner struck a defiant tone during a news conference today. he blamed the president and democrats for stalling negotiations on a debt deal. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced...
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social base of popular support a minority to be sure but a fairly sizable minority compared to what gadhafi had the also the the fact that you're having some if you can stream most elements the u.s. doesn't want to inadvertently support and there's also recognition that despite the victory against gadhafi that that on literally start whole can of worms we're seeing around for patients from from mali to benghazi so how do you cope with that extremist element the jihadists who are trying to in a way. be opportunities to opportunistic about this and maybe try and fill some sort of power vacuum if it should happen because you want to levels of conflict those are against a sad and of course now this other element how how could that be that problem be solved again i think the advantage of me to go back to a primarily nonviolent struggle which by its nature brings in a wide variety of syrians from across civil society people who are now odd ling in their homes trying to avoid getting shot but if you if you had an uprising based more on the people themselves the extremists which don't have much par
social base of popular support a minority to be sure but a fairly sizable minority compared to what gadhafi had the also the the fact that you're having some if you can stream most elements the u.s. doesn't want to inadvertently support and there's also recognition that despite the victory against gadhafi that that on literally start whole can of worms we're seeing around for patients from from mali to benghazi so how do you cope with that extremist element the jihadists who are trying to in a...