libya meant gadhafi. libya meant terrorism. >> pan am flight 103 went down in a blazing fireball. >> libya, a bad place where a comical dictator was the absolute power. nobody in libya, however, was laughing. >> reports of explosions. >> clashes between rioters and security forces. >> in 2011, what was previously unthinkable happened. the libyan people rose up and fought for their freedom. >> heavy battles raging around the libyan capital. >> they fought like hell. >> the rebels are about to force gadhafi's complete departure. >> they recorded the whole thing on their cell phones. >> libya! ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> it's amazing arriving here after all you see on tv these days that libya is, in fact, functioning at all. but it is. the fountains across from the kornish are operating. traffic works, kind of. at the radisson, club sandwiches arrive on time in the lobby. the occasional flash of camo and a security scanner are the really only discordant notes. >> don't want to take the -- >> inside the old part of the city,

and gadhafi and his whole family fled.here was a lot of excitement in the country because it seemed like it was over. >> but it isn't over. not while gadhafi and his sons remain in hiding. until october 20th, 2011. that day tracy shelton is with a group of militia fighters she's been profiling for months. >> that morning some of the guys from the battalion had gone into surt, and i'd gone in with them. >> around 8:30 a.m. a heavily armored convoy of around 70 vehicles is seen leaving surt, gadhafi's hometown and his last remaining stronghold. >> there were snipers all over the city that were set up to protect the convoy. everybody knew there was somebody important in this group. >> nato forces bombed the caravan from the air. dozens are killed. >> there were a lot of survivors that had run into bushes, into houses in this area. >> as rebel fighters prepare to head to the site of the convoy bombing, shelton asks if she can go along. but they refuse. >> that was the only time they ever said no. they told me no, you can't com

there was this phenomena and letting politics that is residue from the gadhafi era that gadhafi drilled into people's heads that political parties are pawns of foreign powers. and you find it is time and time again when you look at the national forces, a national salvation front people say oh, that's a cia front. so people have this tendency to associate parties with some sort of outside power, even though it may not be the case. we are seeing islamists exerting themselves, retooling themselves. the mother and 10 -- the salafis are regrouping as well. much of their influence is occurring at the informal networknetwork through person kd key figures. such as the grand mufti, such as ali salabi. again this leads to sort of a last observation on elections, that elections in this country are still very much at the level of personality politics. why did the national forces aligns when? was because, they had this for technocratic aura but again it was because of the popularity of mahmoud jibril. he was a known quantity. another cases these islamists figure, the grand mufti, people know him. he

we made up with gadhafi.gain, my belief is largely because the international sanctions and the will to enforce the were crumbling. we had a horrible situation unfolding in iraq. and there looked to be an opportunity to flip a rogue state. it had very little to do, and i have read all the public sources i get my hands on, with weapons of mass destruction gadhafi was very far from weapons of mass destruction. and that simply was not a factor, at least not a. major host: rachel in texas, independent. caller: everybody wants to know what did obam do, and was the at the white house? we knew the twin towers were target. when the first plane hit, bush was in the classroom. when the second plane hit, he was still sitting in the classroom. we went after the fbi and the cia because they had conflicting stories. the twin towers was a target. so we had a hearing. i am trying to figure out why the fbi and the cia did not have their stories -- they did not go after bush. they said we should not attack the president. host:

country fearing an outbreak of violence the latest wave of unrest was sparked by a new law barring gadhafi era officials from taking off some to militia finds is that latest seized to ministry buildings in the capital demanding the resignation of the country's prime minister splinter groups involvements have been calling for the premier's dismissal international relations professor mother ellen says the western powers who helped the gadhafi are responsible for the prolonged to turmoil . we're seeing is deep divisions among the libyan revolutionaries who britain and other nato countries supported there's a power struggle over who should control the libyan state and control libya's oil and gas if colonel gadhafi had suppressed still positions him when it was open streets and lost two thousand of them also be hundreds of people would have died or perhaps as many as thirty thousand have died since and the country is in in this state to disorder uncertainty and life for most libyans is worse than it was on the congo her of course kind of the girl whose regime was supposed the western countries

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power struggle over who should control the libyan state to control libya's oil and gas if colonel gadhafi had suppressed still positions him when it was opened in the streets of last two thousand people would regard or perhaps as many as thirty thousand have died since and the country is in a state to disorder uncertainty new life for most europeans is worse than it was on the commodore her of course kind of the where she was supposed by the western countries to be the second paragraph she anything must be russia we were told well i've heard say we see that it's not necessarily so clear after all they had bombing libya which occurred a situation where groups came to power and so they have a local organization and there are of course. groups who may have been welcomed right obama's but quite serious and he wants to muslim fundamentalist groups who have been sending parts also to syria so they don't necessarily continued presence of western embassies the british french or the americans as being wholly something about seeing in a number of tubes they would see maybe a. well after telling cou

look, we got rid of gadhafi. these guys we can take care of in time. there was a sense of real unhappiness when there were assassinations and kidnappings going on, when we were there. they -- the feeling is very much that there are people who want chaos, who do not want us to succeed. they are well aware of all of the dark forces -- they say, that stand in the way of a coherent society. and i think they're realistic about the prospect of how long it might take. we need to be realistic as well. >> what do you make of the investigation so far in benghazi? >> i think the investigation is taking a terribly long time. there are a lot of confusion at the beginning. the fbi getting in there, after three weeks. a lot of things missed that reporters found. a lot of questions unanswered. when you don't investigate a case from the beginning, when a crime scene is all chaos, it's very hard to reconstruct it later, and, of course, for a long time now, no one's being held to answer for it. >> there's not much of a government there to work with. it's a do it why ares

the residue from the gadhafi era. he drove into people said that political parties are hard for foreign powers in the finest time and time again. that is a cia front. some sort of outside power. that may not be the case. we are seeing is a lot less exerting themselves. the muslim brotherhood has learned from the election. the informal network. the personality of keefe -- figures. this means is a last observation on elections. elections in this country are still very much the level of personality. why did it when? they have this, but it was because of the popularity. unknown quantity, and other cases the figures, the people who know him. so, again, this idea of actually campaigning and a program or an agenda has not really reached maturity in this country yet. people still vote along locale, trouble, family lines, and based on personalities. i think will leave it at that. the q&a, i can talk about some of the key institutional hurdles that this country faces in terms of the political isolation law and global constituti

it's no secret that gadhafi regime created lasting damage and libya by militant groups have attemptedto take advantage that is still in transition. ambassador jones will work with the libyan government to enhance security in the change of the ban will have the important work of balancing access to security at embassies and consulates through our discussions. i know she's mindful of this import job. she has a keen understanding of the responsibility given to her by the president if confirmed. mr. chairman, thank you for the opportunity to introduce ambassador john. the president has clearly chosen an individual of great experience, expertise and commitment and i look forward to supporting such a well-qualified candidate. thank you again. >> thank you for all those insights. >> i'll excuse myself, but i'm sure she will do very well without me. >> with that come are happy to invite ambassador jones to give her testimony. full say that for ambassador jones will be included in the record without objection or me ask you to summarize for purposes of being able to have a discussion and we inv

what was it like going to post-gadhafi libya? >> libya was far and away the most difficult show i have ever done to date. to operate, to get the footage we needed and to do the things that we expected to do in a very fluid, ever-changing situation, every day the security briefing was pretty unpleasant, where we had to change our behavior. we like the restaurant or people we're going to visit to know we're coming. we couldn't do that. we had to really change our whole style. >> because if you alert them in advance, there's potential for kidnapping or something like that? >> we ended up essentially hiring a militia as both our subjects and our protectors. >> kentucky fried chicken -- uncle kentucky fried chicken. okay. >> we went to a chicken restaurant. it was like a uncle kentucky fried chicken, with a young kid who helped liberate the gadhafi compound, who fought and killed people, he was so happy to be eating american style fried chicken in this garish little fast food restaurant. he told us this is the taste of freedom. people

what was it like going to post-gadhafi libya? >> libya was far and away the most difficult show i have ever done to date. to operate, to get the footage we needed and to do the things that we expected to do in a very fluid, ever-changing situation, every day the security briefing was pretty unpleasant, where we had to change our behavior. we like the restaurant or people we're going to visit to know we're coming. we couldn't do that. we had to really change our whole style. >> because if you alert them in advance, there's potential for kidnapping or something like that? >> we ended up essentially hiring a militia as both our subjects and our protectors. >> kentucky fried chicken -- uncle kentucky fried chicken. okay. >> we went to a chicken restaurant. it was like a uncle kentucky fried chicken, with a young kid who helped liberate the gadhafi compound, who fought and killed people, he was so happy to be eating american style fried chicken in this garish little fast food restaurant. he told us this is the taste of freedom. people

but more importantly was gadhafi's very divisive style of patronage politics.ment. but what happened in the latter stages of the gadhafi regime is that he retriballized society, and he elevated certain towns, he provided them with favors. and what you're seeing in the post-gadhafi transition is really a turning of the tables. you're seeing locales and towns that were suppressed under gadhafi try to reassert themselves. and it's creating cleavages that were not there before, ask much of it has to do with this struggle for resources whether economic resources or political resources. from my visit last week, there's a real sense -- and i've been traveling there, um, i've been there four times since the end of the revolution. there's a real sense among my friends, people i see on a repeated basis that with this last visit there's a sense that the goofy state is per -- gadhafi state is perpetuating itself. that it's going to be very difficult to escape from his highly centralized and personalized way of governing the country. why? because there are no institutions.

is the residence of omar look at the before with it telling colonization and which ameria led by gadhafi so women situation nato now we're seeing another humanitarian disaster unfolding many might say well western powers that supported the overthrow of gadhafi now have a responsibility to get the cup. back on track another interventions have a responsibility but the only way to hold them to account is to have a national unified movement mama gadhafi was the one of the only anti colonial leaders of the global starting reparations and compensation from the former kind of noise i tell you and you got billions of dollars from them and go around you to kiss the hand is a groundswell of. the resistance founder of the libyan nation so really this is the type of leadership and the people of libya i mean a lot of base activists a lot of thank you very much indeed your thoughts live here on. well later this hour the sort of first report of a new project set to plug in area rural england into the world wide web. but we are going to be telling you how one local community. tackling flow into that spa

the answer i got back again and again was, look, we took down gadhafi.eople too. there seems to be a sense of determination to not ever allow themselves to backslide into the kind of oppressive regime they had before. they like their freedom. i'm not speaking for everybody for sure. but i met a lot of people who are very determined and convinced however long it might take that they will not go back to the way it was and that they will not allow what they call dark forces to interfere with the kind of libya they'd like to have. >> anthony, you mention a feeling of danger. how so? when did you feel a sense of unease there? >> well, it was a very fast changing situation. the british embassy when we were there had told all british citizens to leave benghazi. it got tense. our security advisors were very concerned to the point that, you know, every night there was a crisis meeting, a discussion of whether or not -- our security guys were very much leaning towards the whole crew heading to the airport immediately. so that was sort of a daily discussion and a t

gadhafi that there were relatively few terrorists there now it's teeming with terrorism reminds me of iraq before we attacked iraq now it's caning with terrorists but getting back to raymond's point here you know i have never accused george bush of letting nine eleven happen i have accused him of incompetence you know just a month before nine eleven he was warned by my colleagues in the cia osama bin laden determined to attack within the united states and he did absolutely nothing so at best it's it's misfeasance rather than malfeasance but the point is here why why did highly cheaper hommage the mastermind behind nine eleven why did he say that he did it now they captured him before the nine eleven report and this is what the nine eleven report says on page one forty seven and i have it committed to memory quote honey check one home it's on the most toward the united states stem not from his his studies here as a person in north carolina but rather from his deep hatred of u.s. policy favoring israel period end quote that's never able to be mentioned in the press but terrorists so-cal

after gadhafi was overthrown, light footprint was enacted. we -- many of us argued strenuously for the kinds of assistance, whether it be in border security, whether it be treatment of the wounded, whether it be helping organize military and -- i think it's pretty clear in the objective view of most observers that we have done very little. for example, 30,000 wounds, we treated three in a boston hospital. there's still the issue of sovereign immunity which seems to have hung up or ability to send people there to train their military. part of it is libyans' fault. one heck of a lot of it is our fault. and i would expect that -- and i've talked to secretary kerry about this problem -- and you're going to have to start unsticking things but you're going to have to get the support of the administration, which so far has not been there. and so if you're going to succeed in libya, ambassador, you're going to have to speak truth to power. and truth power is that we are not giving them the assistance for a whole variety of ropes, not all ours. that w

month last month militia men besieged two ministries within the country's capital tripoli demanding gadhafi era officials be banned from taking posts in the government while on friday explosions hit two police stations in the city of benghazi professor mark almond of bill kent university thinks the violence is a result of divisions within the ranks of former revolutionaries. we're seeing is deep divisions among the libyan revolutionaries who britain and other nato countries supported there's a power struggle over who should control the libyan state and control libya's or written gas if colonel gadhafi had suppressed still positions him when it was opened in the streets of loss of two thousand live and also be hundreds of people would regard but perhaps as many as thirty thousand have died since and the country is in a state to disorder uncertain to life for most libyans is worse than it was under commodore her of course kind of though his regime was supposed are the western countries to be a second bad regime anything must be russia we were told well i'm afraid so we see that it's not neces

in the capital came under attack leaving his government recently granted the militants demand for gadhafi or officials to be banned from senior government roles now they are calling for the country's prime minister to resign international relations professor mark almond says western powers are responsible for the instability and the surge of violence that sweeping the country. we're seeing is deep divisions among the libyan revolutionaries who britain and other nato countries supported there's a power struggle over who should control the libyan state and put it in who should control libya's oil and gas if colonel gadhafi had suppressed still positions him. in the streets of last two thousand of them possibly hundreds of people would have died or perhaps as many as thirty thousand have died since and the country is in in this state to disorder uncertainty life for most libyans is worse than it was under commodore her of course kind of about his regime was supposed on the western countries to be the second bad regime anything must be russia we were told well i'm afraid say we see that it's

power struggle over who should control the libyan state and control libya's oil and gas if colonel gadhafi had suppressed still positions him when it was open streets and lost the two thousand level also be hundreds of people would have died but perhaps as many as thirty thousand have died since and the country is in in a state to disorder uncertainty life for most libyans is worse than it was on the commodore her article scuttled about his regime was supposed why the western countries to be the bad regime anything must be russia we were told well i'm afraid to say we see that it's not necessarily so clear after all they. have helped to create a situation where armed groups came to power and certainly have local nomination and there are of course. groups who may have been welcoming nato bombers but are in fact quite serious and he wants to muslim fundamentalist groups who have now been sending parts also to syria so they don't would go up necessarily the continued presence of western embassies the british french all the americans as being wholly something about seeing a liberal to do as th

should control the libyan state and protect the who should control libya's oil and gas if colonel gadhafi had suppressed self-assertion him when it was opened in the streets of last the two thousand level possibly hundreds of people would have died but perhaps as many as thirty thousand died since and the country is in this deep state to disorder uncertainty life for most of us is worse than it was on account of that our articles kind of about his regime was supposed by the western countries to be the bad regime anything must be russia we were told well i'm afraid to say we see that it's not necessarily so clear after all they all mean libya which create a situation where groups came to power and they have local domination and there are of course groups who may be welcoming nato bombers but are in fact quite serious and he wants to move in fundamentalist groups who have now been sending parts also to syria so they don't we go this is where the continued presence of western embassies the british french all the americans as being wholly something they'd like to see in a liberated as they wo

the security situation in libya has remained precarious ever since people milligan leader moammar gadhafi was overthrown on sunday they were two bombs targeting a plane dollars eat police stations they have also been a five attacks in total over the last month on benghazi police stations this comes amid an increase in foreign stocks withdrawals on sunday the b.p. oil giant announced that it was pulling all non essential stuff from its libyan operations and this was based on the advice of the u.k. foreign office on friday evening washington announce that it was pulling some of its nonessential indices staff out of the country and it was also pushing e.u. based rapid intervention troops who are currently based. germany on high alert the u.k. foreign office has also announced that it's removing some nonessential diplomatic staff because of security concerns and political uncertainty over the last few weeks what we have seen is that in the seas both in tripoli and also libyan ministries has been blocked by militia who have been demanding a north banning gadhafi officials from government now w

guys are in the eastern region of a country which is the cradle of the counter revolution against gadhafi is a manifestation of this disintegration now within the political and economic system inside the country regard to the loss of us and potential loss of british and other european person now there are political costs associated with such loss or potential losses and this is why they have downscaling their diplomatic staff in these countries we've seen the targeting of police stations and other security apparatus inside the country and the u.s. knows as well as the european countries are quite aware of the fact that if they do lose any more personnel inside of libya because our political ally destabilization inside their own countries. i'm going to national news in brief this hour to try and ease the navy flexed its muscles conducting military exercises a new world called the nunchuck islands positions over the west coast of the philippines in the south china sea known as the probably islands in the philippines five countries that circle east south china sea have made claims and some o

explore why there's no sign of stability returning to the country almost two years since the fall of gadhafi. be relentless civil war in series of diplomatic spotlight israel's prime minister binyamin netanyahu is the latest in a string of high profile figures to visit russia seeking a coordinated approach on the issue israel became directly involved in the conflict earlier this month when it's fine to jets bombed targets within syria more details now from. his following the talks in russia's black sea resort of sochi. right now the two biggest problems between russia and israel concerning syria are moscow's shipments to damascus of the s. three hundred air defense systems under arms deal signed a long time ago and the two recent airstrikes in syria allegedly conducted by israel which is still hasn't officially admitted but hasn't officially rejected either but if the arms shipments don't cross any international agreements then clearly an airstrike by one state over another state solvent territory does but what benjamin netanyahu visit is showing now is that the stumbling blocks are currentl

again threatening the country two years after a nato led intervention and the overthrow of colonel gadhafi. so the count of the list at russia's main christ the savior cathedral this year is used to service a started thousands of believers are gathered for the vigil it's one of orthodox christianity is most important services and most the resurrection of jesus christ will ultimately and if it is there joins us live now we do know what is happening there on this holy night for believers. both prices reason is so crazy early sunday and well it's already early sunday in orthodox believe or so reading each other with this or it's just the celebration unfolds not really a on a sunday on saturday the holy father appeared in the cathedral in jerusalem and the believers there waited for ten minutes before it was lit and sometimes it might take for several hours now down the hole the fire was brought to russia and it landed in moscow's airport and was done delivered to the christ the savior consider over the last word the main easter ceremony is now taking place in the us really be a landmark are t

i really did, but we got involved, took gadhafi out.hink it sent signals to a lot f people about doing away with weapons of mass destruction, which is a whole other topic, but then we sort of left it there. it's a country that you know, it's remarkable that the citizens are even functioning in a normal way because the government is not. so i do think there's a role for us to play in helping shape the feature. again, not military boots on the ground, but we've got to help them i involve and i don't think we've done near enough in syria at present. i think we're doing more than people raeealize, but it's stil not enough. i'm not even for the air issues people are talking about, but we've got to help these areas a little more. we can't just leave them in a vacuum because the more extremist groups take over. >> what is the unanswered question that you feel like you want out of these meetings? >> i've got so much on this end of the building that i really hadn't focused much on the house. there were four individuals involved. they've been rep

again threatening the country two years after a nato led intervention on the overthrow of moammar gadhafi. belgian authorities have been forced to evacuate nearly three hundred inhabitants from a town over again and when a train carrying chemicals if you railed and bust into flames the farin photo led to a series of explosions no injuries have been reported our train links in the area have been suspended until further and which is. the president of afghanistan hamid karzai has asked the time to bond to stop destroying the country and hold defend the prosperity of the nation against what he calls foreign plots the call comes days after clashes on the border with pakistan left one are going to got dead and two pakistani soldiers injured at the same time hundreds of afghans protested near where they fighting to place against both pakistan and the united states. st petersburg is experiencing every nice songs as an international cultural capital by breathing new life into their we're now and marine schizo which has now got a modern high tech twin the spectacular opening of the new venue silenc

from colonel gadhafi arsenal . yes the cia was posted up to monitor and al qaeda group al qaeda group closely linked to the same militia group hired by the state department to protect the u.s. diplomatic mission in benghazi and guess what that militia group also called the february seventeenth martyrs brigade is also why the blame for the deadly terrorist attack at benghazi right the group hired by the u.s. government to protect itself is potentially responsible for the attack. as much as blowback sucks that's the danger of playing with fire by bombing countless countries in the middle east and funding extremist groups that are linked with terrorists which makes it particularly interesting that benghazi is actually a hub of al qaeda and an outpost for weapons shipments furthermore many eyebrows are being raised about chris stevens role the ambassador who died in the attacks see stevens was the official liaison between the us and the libyan islamic fighting group that overthrew gadhafi that same group was also respo