lots of the war crimes trial of colonel gadhafi son begins in libya as the country defies the international criminal court's demand to check over to the hague. a very warm welcome to you if you're just joining us here on our t.v. we're live from moscow are you with me to bomb let's say let's take a look at our top story. the russian the russia says it will provide the u.n. security council with evidence allegedly implicating syrian rebel forces in last month's deadly chemical attack outside damascus the syrian government had already given the same dato to u.n. inspectors working in the country the findings were apparently not taken into account when their report was prepared arches maria for national caught up with russia's deputy foreign minister during his visit to damascus to discuss these allegations. russia's deputy foreign minister has spent two days here in damascus to discuss the country's chemical disarmament plan according to which syria has to destroy or remove its chemical weapons by me two thousand and fourteen but first to provide a full list of its chemical weapons and stockp

in the sun a vast and libyan dictator moammar gadhafi as his war crimes trial adjourned until december will still take place in that despite requests by the international criminal court to ship him to the hague. around the world and around the clock you're watching. the civil war that's devastated syria for more than two years assuming they changed beyond recognition from the initial conflict rebel forces and al qaeda linked factions that once fought side by side in the push now pitted against each other in violent battles reports suggest that increasingly the more radical elements need to be gaining ground. well in the most recent incident they seized the strategic town of the turkish border ousting the free syrian army rebels stormed the area on wednesday in some of the most severe fighting between the two factions yet were town sits a key rebel weapons supply route using fears that arms could fall into the hands of islamist militants an assault by idling to extremists have become a dirty headache for syria's kurdish minority as well the other curves that managed to drive them out of

of the son of libyan dictator moammar gadhafi has his crimes trial adjourned until december to still take place in libya despite requests from international criminal court and shipping to the hague. and more this is a not a civil war that stated syria more than two years has changed beyond recognition from the initial conflict rebel forces and al qaeda linked factions that once fought side by side in the bush now pitted against each other in violent battles reports suggest that increasingly the more radical elements appear to be gaining ground. in my stove recent incident they seized the strategic town of azaz not the turkish border ousting the free syrian army rebels that jihad this storm the area on wednesday and some of the most severe fighting between the two factions yet its own sits on a cane rebel weapons supply route to easing phase of arms could fall into the hands of is the most militant assaults by extremists become a daily headache for syria's this minority as well. the kurds managed to drive them out of an agenda this week twenty people have fought and died in the clash

the son of libyan dictator muammar gadhafi has his war crimes trial adjourned until december it will still take place in libya despite requests by the international criminal court to ship him to the hague. and i welcome watching the scene with me andrey. now the civil war that stepha stated syria for more than two years has changed extensively from the initial conflict rebel forces and al-qaeda linked factions that once fought side by side in the anti sad push now pitted against each other in violent battles and reports suggest that increasingly the more radical elements appear to be gaining ground in the most recent incident they seize the strategic town of the turkish border and sing the free syrian army rebels jihadist and stormed the area on wednesday and in some of the heaviest fighting between the two factions yet the two times story sits on the key rebel weapons supply route raising fears that arms could fall into the hands of islamic militants assaults by al qaeda linked extremists have become a daily concern for syria's kurdish minority as well although the kurds managed to

son of ousted libyan dictator moammar gadhafi is his war crimes trial a journey into december it will still take place in libya despite requests by the international criminal court to ship him to the hague. international news and commentary around the clock this is. the civil war that devastated syria for more than two years a seemingly changed beyond recognition from the initial conflict forces and al-qaeda linked factions that once force side by side in the anti assad push now pitted against each other in violent battles and reports suggest that increasingly the more radical elements appear to be gaining ground. and i start recent incident they seize the strategic town of the turkish or the ousting the free syrian army rebels who had the store manager on wednesday and some of the most severe fighting between the two factions yet one town sits on a key rebel weapons supply route raising fears that arms could fall into the hands of. mosul coddling to extremists become a daily headache for syria's minority as well for the kurds about us to drive them out of a village out in this week o

trial gadhafi and demand his hand over. right of course now earlier my colleague andrew farmer he spoke aladdin mug rajarhat a member of the libyan general national congress who says that the country has every right to try gadhafi son without foreign interference. he's a libyan all the crimes on the charges against him being proud are committed in libya and every libyan believes that he should be tried in libya none of the none of the crimes that he's been charged with are committed outside libya so there's no reason whatsoever. to try him outside libya and the demand of all the libyans why do you think this being such a bad. try him why the president the president is not we as a libyan who have had their pollution in two thousand and eleven we don't have a brother we knew we knew from day one we wanted to try all of them including see if we get there in libya and catch all the stories we're covering and much more on our website including the u.s. drone industry has been so much that there is now a shortfall in people to th

be able to discuss that i'm now joined by john jones a british lawyer representing safe all islam gadhafi mr jones thank you very much for your time now as far as i understand your client is expected to appear in court on september nineteenth but those charges have nothing to do with the two thousand and eleven revolution as far as i understand he is accused of trying to escape an insulting believe be a flag now compared to you know the main charges against him be charged crimes against humanity these these offenses seem pretty minor and yet they're taking the priority he's being tried on them i know them the main charges against him could you update us on this case because it's so pretty messy it's hard to make sense from all those conflicting media reports that we are getting very hard to be sure of what's going on in libya because there are conflicting announcements by the libyan authorities all the time what i understand is that the september will be not only the charges as you said of insulting the national flag but also the war crimes charges relating to the incident two thousand an

on the son of ousted libyan dictator moammar gadhafi has his war crimes trial in a gentle december will still take place in libya despite requests by the international criminal court to ship them to the hague. or international even comment around the caucuses out. of the civil war that's devastated syria for more than two years has seemingly changed beyond recognition from the initial conflict rebel forces and al qaeda linked factions that once for side by side in the n.t.'s and push now pitted against each other in violent bottles reports suggest that increasingly the more radical elements if need to be gaining ground on the most recent. he sees the strategic town of near the turkish border ousting the free syrian army rebels and jihadists stormy area on wednesday in some of the most severe fighting between the two factions yet when the town sits on a key rebel weapons supply route raising fears that arms could fall into the hands of is the most militant assaults by archiving extremists become a daily headache for syria's kurdish minority as well the kurds managed to drive them out of

is approval for its domestic trial of gadhafi son in may this year but that request was rejected. and you can get a unique insight into the build up to that trial in our interview show worlds apart works on a boycott talks to john jones the i.c.c. appointed lawyer representing saif al islam you can see the full episode that's next. a brief look now at some other world news. in mexico the death of a massive floods caused by hurricane tropical storms is risen to eighty dozens of people still missing tens of thousands were forced to flee the news which has been cut off from power supplies along with the deluge mudslides and also how could rescue operations in mali air force started evacuating an estimated ten thousand tourists from the popular destination of acapulco. egypt where a senior police officer has been killed in a shootout between security forces and an armed group just outside cairo is converged on the area to round up suspects accused of killing eleven offices in clashes that one of the military overthrew president mohammed mursi in july one people have been arrested so f

if the european parliament said that they were vestment in libya was contingent on delivering safe gadhafi to the hague so they can be made to and that's what the international committee has to do if it believes in the course it has to support the cause well let's see if the international community as you say western leaders who spearheaded this campaign against gadhafi regime really have the guts to do anything to the new libyan authorities if a full islam ever sees his day in court whether in libya or add the i.c.c. on those main charges of crimes against humanity war crimes what do you think is the most realistic scenario what do you think is the most likely fade that key can face especially in the current circumstances i think he would agree with me about his his odds of seeing a trial in libya probably higher than at the i.c.c. if he's delivered to the hague to the i.c.c. he may well stand a good chance of being acquitted and being being freed because you can have a fair trial before an international court you can have a trial and the second. this is where there isn't time to get daff

approval for its domestic trial of gadhafi son in may this year that request was rejected. my colleague andrew farmer spoke to a libyan lawmaker who said that the country had every right to try gadhafi son without foreign interference. he's a libyan all the crimes on the charges against him. committed in libya and every libyan believes that he should be tried in libya none of the none of the crimes that he's been charged with are being committed outside so there's no reason whatsoever. to try him outside libya and the demand of all the why do you think there's been such a battle then as to where to try him why the brattle brother is not we as a libyan who have had their pollution in two thousand and eleven we don't have a brother we knew we knew from day one we wanted to try all of them including see if we get there in libya you can get a unique insight into the build up to that trial and interview show worlds apart works on a boycott talks to john jones the i.c.c. appointed lawyer representing him you can see the full episode in just over to too us. you can catch more stor

and its allies could have done more stabilize libya after gadhafi's fall. ♪ >> welcome back to "inside." as american's debate how the u.s. should deal with the crisis in syria, we're taking a closer look at libya. still with us in washington we have u.s. ambassador robert hunter, manal omar, and kareem of the atlantic council. ambassador, looking back, how successful or ineffective was the u.s. and nato involvement? >> i think it took a while to get together with the lead. we call it leading from behind, but it did have a successful outcome in getting rid of gadhafi, the problem is people wiped their hands and said let's move on to the next problem, and didn't do the things that would have been required in order to help libya be libya, particularly in aid in terms of investment, in terms of training, in terms of supporting the ngos, the non-governmental organizations that can do a piece of work without it looking like a new imperialism. we forgot about libya, which i think was a terrible, terrible mistake. >> what should have been done differently, kareem? >> i will go even further tha

gadhafi in libya which could be embarrassing both to libyans and to foreign leaders and what you say about. people having an interest in not giving evidence not speaking freely would also be true and even more true most mature in fact if you would give it to the i.c.c. today because then he could he could speak freely about all those things i doubt whether he'd ever be able to speak very freely about any matters in libya even in a trial i think you'd be under very controlled environment to be under detention where he knows that what he says is can rebound on him negatively. and that's one the reasons why it's not in my interests not in his interests for us to try and meet in instant time to discuss matters because he knows he will go after them and to tell you it's that you mention that everything he says is monitored everything he says is listened to and so he can't really complain that he can't really spill the beans about anything important as long as he's detained in libya but even if he transferred to the hatred of mr jones even if he's transferred to the hague there is a lot of

and eventually, there was a revolution in libya and gadhafi was overthrown, gadhafi was killed and libya today is still chaotic and nobody quite knows how things will end up in that country, but they gave up their nuclear weapons program and they gave up their chemical weapons. they handed them over to the u.n. for destruction. and that was a rare thing and that was amazing. and maybe that is about to happen again? maybe. and if it seems today like nobody is quite sure about whether something like this really could happen again for the first time in ten years, for the first time since libya did it in 2003, if people seem a little unsure about this today, it is because the idea was born and came to fruition all in one day today, and nobody saw it coming. >> syria's foreign minister said today that syria would consider placing international inspections around its chemical arsenal. do you believe it? are you skeptical? do you think it might be a stalling tactic? >> well, i think you have to take it with a grain of salt initially, but between the statements that we saw from the russians, the

gadhafi and his family having fled. of gadhafi's palace. >> when's the last time you were here? the machinery is going to do the fighting. after then coming a lot of people, normal people listening about something expensive here like the salt and like the gold. >> stop. stop now. >> they want us to stop filming now. >> we didn't notice local pickup trucks had closed in on us. >> i stopped. >> you stop. >> just relax. >> this is their turf or their area of operation or somehow under their control. whatever the case, they are the group in charge today. an argument ensues between our guys and their guys. all of whom fought against the same forces on this ground a year ago. >> let's go. another morning in tripoli and life goes on. venders are out, people go about their daily routines. >> this is our traditional breakfast. >> what is this dish called? >> a overstretched donut, i suppose. with an egg on top. you can get them with cheese or chili paste or honey. >> how do you like yours? >> i like mine cooked. >> what's the na

gadhafi and his family having fled. this is what's left of gadhafi's palace.here? >> last time is when the revolution is finishing. the machinery, going in fast. after that, the people, always have the guns. after them coming lot of people, normal people, listening about something expensive here, like the salt, like the gold -- >> pardon? what? >> he wants us to stop filming right now. >> okay. while talking, we didn't notice several pickup trucks of local militia had closed in on us. >> stop, stop, stop. >> i've stopped. >> you stop. >> just relax, relax. >> no, relax, relax. >> what's happening? >> this is their turf, or their area of operation or somehow under their control. whatever the case, they're the group in charge today. an argument ensues between our guys and their guys. all of whom fought against the same forces on this ground a year ago. >> okay. let's go. hold it down. hold it down. hold it down. another morning in tripoli and life goes on. vendors are out, people go about their daily routines. >> this is our traditional breakfast. >> what is thi

gadhafi and his family having fled.i's palace. >> when's the last time you were here? the machinery is going to do the fighting. after then coming a lot of people, normal people listening about something expensive here like the salt and like the gold. >> stop. stop now. >> they want us to stop filming now. >> we didn't notice local pickup trucks had closed in on us. >> i stopped. >> you stop. >> just relax. >> this is their turf or their area of operation or somehow under their control. whatever the case, they are the group in charge today. an argument ensues between our guys and their guys. all of whom fought against the same forces on this ground a year ago. >> let's go. >>. another morning in tripoli and life goes on. venders are out, people go about their daily routines. >> this is our traditional breakfast. >> what is this dish called? >> a overstretched donut, i suppose. with an egg on top. you can get them with cheese or chili paste or honey. >> how do you like yours? >> i like mine cooked. >> what's the name of

we got rid of gadhafi.is hard. >> i like your attitude. >> this is supposed to be the biggest, fanciest, new hotel development in town. like a lot of newer structures, they pretty much stopped when they started to pull down the government. there are a lot of cranes building nothing at the moment. a lot is sort of frozen as everybody figures out what happens next, let's wait and see. one of many moments of unexpected weirdness in libya. medina, the frozen wait and see hotel. meanwhile, right over there, there are -- they're playing rod stewart "do you think i'm sexy" to an amusement park full of kids. makes no sense at all. in a vaguely encouraging way. congested. beat down. crushed. as if the weight of the world is resting on your face. but sudafed gives you maximum strength sinus pressure and pain relief. so you feel free. liberated. released. decongested. open for business. [ inhales, exhales ] [ male announcer ] powerful sinus relief from the #1 pharmacist recommended brand. sudafed. open up. man: [ laug

we got rid of gadhafi.rd. >> i like your attitude. >> this is supposed to be the biggest, fanciest, new hotel development in town. like a lot of newer structures, they pretty much stopped when they started to pull down the government. there are a lot of cranes building nothing at the moment. a lot is sort of frozen as everybody figures out what happens next, let's wait and see. one of many moments of unexpected weirdness in libya. medina, the frozen wait and see hotel. meanwhile, right over there, there are -- they're playing rod stewart "do you think i'm sexy" to an amusement park full of kids. makes no sense at all. in a vaguely encouraging way. if you think campbell's 26 new soups sound good, imagine how they taste. m'm! m'm! good! i get out a lot... except when it's too cold. like the last three weekends. asthma doesn't affect my job... you missed the meeting again last week! it doesn't affect my family. your coughing woke me up again. i wish you'd take me to the park. i don't use my rescue inhaler a lo

we got rid of gadhafi.ard. >> i like your attitude. >> got kids. >> this is supposed to be the biggest, fanciest, new hotel development in town. like a lot of newer structures, they pretty much stopped when they started to pull down the government. there are a lot of cranes building nothing at the moment. a lot is sort of frozen as everybody figures out what happens next, let's wait and see. one of many moments of unexpected weirdness in libya. mosque. medina, the frozen wait and see hotel. militia looking at us. meanwhile, right over there, there are -- they're playing rod stewart "do you think i'm sexy" to an amusement park full of kids. makes no sense at all. in a vaguely encouraging way. b♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around barry ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ ♪ you work. and you want to get an mba. but going back to school is hard... because you work. now, capella university offers a revolutionary new way to get your degree. it's called flexpath and it's the most direct path, lever

gadhafi after all agreed to give up his chemical weapons his various other conventional weapons and then a few years later he was attacked it's still after all official us british french call the c. to replace a sad with the regime based on the syrian national council so it may well be that there's some calculations in washington that although this is in some ways a huge blow to the prestige of united states as the go it alone sole superpower but it has to cooperate with the un but it has to listen to russia and china norm the less it might in certain ways actually facilitate the ongoing policy of supporting the rebels against assad and perhaps in a way in the longer term serve their interests and again we see that barack obama said the threat of a military strike should remain to keep pressure on that saddam regime while president putin insists it's hard to imagine a nation to design in the face of a night time how do you how do you see this standoff well pan out. here well i think therefore that the likelihood is that the americans french and british will agree to some slightly we

made by the gadhafi government and the south africans among others should have been seriously pursued and i happen to believe that if there was any tool old the issue of being resolved without regime change but the fighting stopping and the killing stopping then that's the path that should have been going down and i also happen to believe and i agree probably with you in this respect that because of the perception that that mandate was reached in libya that was an important reason why so many countries became very suspicious of the hostile to the use of the similar approach in the case of syria when it came along so quickly and i think that's a tragedy because i think we got it right in libya just as we got it right in case which you have not mentioned but which happened at the same time we got it right they will did react appropriately on the evidence as it existed at the time the russian government was part of that decision making process we got it right what happened after that went off the rails and we're still bearing the pain all that we need to get back on the rails but not by

seriously you econ do any of that in libya these days and again back in graphics that gadhafi is times he had some incentives to at please go along receive something that the west and human rights community were demanding the militia on the ground in libya these days have absolutely no incentive to do that and i wonder what would stop the situation developing in taking the same scenario in syria if those if those strikes that the united states is proposing are carried out of an event assad is indeed eliminated as the had ever stated for his governing structure is limited do you think that will ultimately improve the human rights situation on the ground what will two points i mean first of all i don't think to cheat or ship is the worst possible scenario. it's about women but the worst situation is something like what you have in syria today where you have a series of militias you know nobody controls the terror of the country different parts of the country controlled by different factions one of those factions happens to be the government but you have a mass killing going on so this is

as you see them on the basis of the evidence in front of you on the basis of the behavior of the gadhafi regime the way in which it had with. the russian government along with everybody else unanimously endorsed that resolution condemning the libyan government's behavior introducing it. sanctions and the threat to criminal prosecution and three weeks later in the context of the seed threats on being. the players on the security council acknowledged believed in to go back over that and to challenge the basis for that decision making and to suggest that that was somehow made in bad faith the without evidence or without sufficient understanding the facts on the ground is just to defy history we can argue about and there's many things are probably agree with you about about the subsequent course of that libyan intervention in the way in which it did involve mission creep which was not justified by the explicit terms of the men died but don't forget. let's argue about the circumstances. and once one knows me and suppose this is the. history of the reasons you cannot be applied in syria is pre

in a country where gadhafi is the reviled the idea that he could actually be tried in a very. proper calm and measured way on the evidence i think is a fantasy. but you have the i.c.c. finding that you know you haven't been appointed lawyers but impossible to point to a lawyer because there was a scared for their safety if they represented their new witness protection programs in place so you could only be a show trial. and over at our website us turn attacks have caused outrage because of the number of civilians they kill but according to a former u.s. air force general the one thing they can't target as successfully is enemy aircraft we've got the full story online for you. plus twenty five greenpeace activists are detained by the russian coast guard after trying to storm the oil rig in the arctic sea i don't mind for more of the story. right to see. her story. and i think richard. on our reporters were very. instrumental. in the little little. it's been nearly twenty years since the first has your devices hit the market with more than seven hundred thousand sold so far it t

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part of the war on terror the extraordinary rendition program and so these very same people that gadhafi had released then joined forces with the united states and nato and and the and so to topple the regime and much the same is going on in syria where again the united states of saudi arabia got into bed with the muslim brotherhood there a few years before the uprising still plays ok jason it looks like intentional instability for the entire region it doesn't work out very well for american or western interests. thank you peter i just might add my breath is taken away a little bit by george's last comment so let me just provide an alternative explanation for what's been happening across the region for the last couple of years. rather than it being instigated by israel the united states and saudi arabia i believe what's been happening across the arab world since the very beginnings of a revolution in tunisia two and a half almost three years ago is something very different it's i believe it's homegrown i believe it's a desire on the part of people who have long been oppressed by dictator

entering the city of benghazi but it was used to justify a small the six months of bombing until gadhafi was overthrown and in july the british prime minister cameron so that over syria we don't want a resolution like the one on libya that would have labeled us to engage in regime change he was trying to reassure russia and china but precisely because back in march of two thousand and eleven david cameron obama president sarkozy said this was just a humanitarian resolution to do with the immediate crisis in vain gauzy undoubtedly not just russia and china but other countries like india brazil south africa a very suspicious that a resolution which authorized force over chemical weapons could be used to justify a broader range campaign to remove the regime and install a different government protest him although i have to say i think if we look at what happened in libya the chaos that followed i would be very reluctant to predict that even if the west was able to pursue a military option in syria that it would produce a regime that most people in the west would feel comfortable with. for th

gadhafi after all agreed to give up his chemical weapons his various other non-conventional weapons and then a few years later he was attacked and the rebels immediate rejection of these latest diplomatic efforts makes it clear their pursuit for foreign intervention is not over damascus now has until next weekend to provide the u.n. with a complete list of its stockpiles if i also continues to cooperate will it be enough to push for peace without the cooperation of the rebels and their supporters and he's now a party moscow. well russia's president said this week reached out directly to the american people that this antiwar message via an open letter published in the new york times that they were through to make this case against an intervention in syria saying all the evidence points to the rebels not us as the comforts of last month's chemical attack now however one of the tunes most outspoken critics in the u.s. republican senator john mccain is planning a response let's get the details from lindsey france and then see what exactly is president putin have to say when he reached o

part of the war on terror the extraordinary rendition program and so these very same people that gadhafi had released then joined forces with the united states and nato and sold to topple the regime and much the same is going on in syria where again the united states of saudi arabia got into bed with the muslim brotherhood there a few years before the uprising still plays ok jason it looks like intentional instability for the entire region it doesn't work out very well for american or western interests. thank you peter i just might add my breath is taken away a little bit by george's last comment so let me just provide an alternative explanation for what's been happening across the region for the last couple of years. rather than it being instigated by israel the united states and saudi arabia i believe what's been happening across the arab world since the very beginnings of a revolution in tunisia two and a half almost three years ago is something very different it's i believe it's homegrown i believe it's a desire on the part of people who have long been oppressed by dictatorships. try

forces entering the city of benghazi but it was used to justify six months of bombing until gadhafi was overthrown and in july the british prime minister david cameron so that over syria we don't want a resolution like the want to libya that would have labeled us to engage in regime change he was trying to reassure russia and china but precisely because back in march of two thousand and eleven david cameron obama president sarkozy said this was just a humanitarian resolution to do with the media crisis in benghazi undoubtedly not just russia and china but other countries like india brazil south africa of a suspicious that a resolution which authorized force over chemical weapons could be used to justify a broader range campaign to remove the regime and install a different government protest although i have to say i think if we look at what happened in libya the chaos that followed i would be very reluctant to predict that even if the west was able to pursue a military option. syria that it would produce a regime that most people in the west would feel comfortable with. mortar shell