when there was broad con sensitive in should be air strikes against gadhafi. he was threatening an air strike, he said we're going to go closet to closet, may have been the term. >> yes. >> savagely killing everyone, because you've risen up against me. there was broad support, u.n. security council resolution, we even got russia to get out of the way of it. the arab league supported it, everyone was lined up, air strikes came in, gadhafi fell and a lot of people said this is how you do it. why were you worried then? >> you get rid of the dictator, and i've been to libya several times. you realize there's no order of government control that could emerge from this chaos without incubation support. nation building is not a phrase that should be tossed around lightly. the obama administration took a victory lap after gadhafi was overthrown, didn't look in the rearview mirror for years, thinking that somehow or other, the 74 tribes vied for control over libya's wealth, which laid down their arms in front of islamists who were just waiting for the opportunity to sei

he said i came, i saw, he died, referring to gadhafi. that was her summary of u.s. policy in october of 2011. well, she announced during that same trip that the united states was going to give money to the libyan government to recuperate missing surface-to-air missiles, she just neglected to say that some of those missiles were american. and ambassador stevens was sent to benghazi on september 10th specifically because a shipment of weapons from benghazi for the syrian rebels -- and i don't believe that this shipment was covered by a presidential finding -- was revealed to the public in turkey. they found it. journalists were going down there, they were snooping around. people were getting very upset, they were very worried it was going to get public and the whole u.s. operation to arm secretly the rebels in syria would become exposed. chris stevens, who knew all the rebels personally, he had spent lots of time there as a special envoy to the insurgents against gadhafi the year before, he was the guy, he was the go-to guy. he'd sit with these jihadis and say, look,

air strikes helped take down moammar gadhafi libya is in chaos.can diplomats have fled the u.s. embassy and as abc news reporter shows us, islamic militants are there celebrating. >> reporter: a swan dive, plunging into the pool at a u.s. embassy compound, in their words today, they have secured this american residential annex in tripoli. empty ever since american diplomats evacuated at the end of july, as libya defended even further into chaos. on twitter, the u.s. ambassador said it appeared the embassy building itself is still guarded and has not been ransacked. this comes almost two years after ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed when islamist militants stormed a u.s. consulate annex in benghazi. libya is now on the brink of becoming a failed state, with militant groups fighting each other for control, as the government looks on helplessly. >> it was just over three years ago that moammar gadhafi was ousted, thanks to the air strikes that the u.s. helped lead. tonight, there is no sign of the peaceful democracy that

three years after america helped take down moammar gadhafi, the country is in chaos. islamic militants are celebrating. alex marquardt with the images coming in tonight. >> reporter: a swan dive, plunging into the pool at a u.s. embassy. the celebration for this group of militants, who in their words today have secured this american residential annex in tripoli. empty since diplomats evacuated end of july. libya descended further into chaos. on twitter, the u.s. ambassador said it appeared the embassy building itself is still guarded and has not been ransacked. this comes almost two years after ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed, when islamist militants stormed a u.s. consulate annex in benghazi. today's pool party a reminder of the lawlessness that reigns. libya on the brink of becoming a failed state. militant groups are fighting each other for control. the government looks on helplessly. it was just over three years ago, moammar gadhafi was ousted thanks to the air strikes that the u.s. helped lead. but tonight, there is no sign of the p

then russia president dmitry medvedev made his feelings known at the time in support of gadhafi.lator: libya is a comefulcom comefulcom comefulcom comefully complicated country. keeping libya velgs as a unified country. >> reporter: while libya descends into renewed chaos with militia battling for control and other nations in the region prepare to fight for their own interests, mr. putin may be hoping to have the last laugh. sanctions on russia have squeezed oil and gas supply to the west. and the kremlin knows that ongoing turmoil elsewhere could limit europe's options. this year, the g 8 became the g-7 when russia's membership was suspended. and nato may be sending equally chilly vibes in russia's direction. but the libyan incursion has taught the west that putin will not tolerate feeling betrayed. and where syria and ukraine are concerned, he doesn't appear to be tolerating what he perceives as double standards. becky anderson, cnn, abu dhabi. >> an american missionary who contracted ebola and survived opens up to our own anderson cooper. that's next. >>> we now know the ident

he said that gadhafi was consolidating his -- that was in 2011. and in 2012, he said al qaeda has weaken to the point where it no longer poses a threat. this is a guy that is clearly off his game and he gave the president of the united states and you're blaming the president of the united states. this is a guy who was incompetent. >> you threw him under the mack truck. >> under the mack truck and more. >> so should president obama fire his director of national intelligence, given what you just said? >> hello? >> how about when he admitted to lying to the senate panel last year about benghazi? shouldn't that have -- shouldn't president obama have shown the leadership to fire him at that point or at least -- >> or at least when you said threw him under the bus, he should have been thrown under the bus a long time ago. >> you heard it, fast and furious. >> it's not clapper's fault? how can you say it's not clapper's fault? the guy didn't know about the london bombings, he didn't know about gadhafi. >> you defend that idiot. go ahead. >> i'm not defen

not just from the fall of gadhafi and libya but hand made grenades. here on the markets of bangui you can buy three grenades for price of a coca-cola. people won't feel safe. >> thank you naznee. >>> captured more territory on the golan heights. plus stigma and prejudice. we have a report on the stigma faced by hiv and aids patients. >>> the european cup prepared for return to competition. details coming up with raul. are british prime minister david cameron has stepped up his campaign to persuade scotland not to break away from the united kingdom. he's promised that scotland will be given even more power. >> this is a decision that could break up our family of nations and rip scotland from the rest of the united kingdom and we must be very clear: there is no going back from this. no rerun. this is a once and for all decision. if scotland votes yes, the u.k. will split. and we will go our separate ways, forever. >> lawrence lee is in aberdeen where the prime minister has been making his speech. >> reporter: please don't go, please don't tear the famil

after being released by the gadhafi regime, went right back to libya and then went to syria. steven sotloff had also reported in libya and had been to syria more than once before he sgla disappeared. >> you also showcase that with your new documentary that documents the impact of war on syrians. what do you hope people who see it come away with? >> i made that film to encourage people to care about the syrian conflict and to support the revolution. you know, i want people to understand what's happening. a lot of the world is disconnected from events far away, but the values that we have and the values for democracy i believe are fairly universal and i want people to identify with the syrian struggle and support them. >> i want to show our audience a clip from your documentary, if we could play that now. >> i have to go. i have to do this. i'm not afraid of death. >> i joke that i always keep one bullet left in my gun for myself. >> you must keep one bullet here in syria. you keep it for yourself. if the regime gets you. >> these are very compelling stories and quite sobering.

. >>> the human rights group, said militias that helped overthrow gadhafi are guilty of war crimes.es bayes has our report. >> reporter: as the u.n.'s new enjoy makes his first visit to the country since he took the job, ban ki-moon has produced a report to the security council about the situation in libya. that report will be discussed next week, but al jazeera has obtained a copy, and it really makes very depressive reading, it says this first six months of the year witnessed the most serious outbreak since 2011. it is almost three years since the death of gadhafi, but those who were fighting him have turned on one another. a desperate situation, the worst this country has seen in those three years. you have two -- parliaments, and two governments. but there is also wide-spread violence, and the civilians are getting caught up in all of this. a lack of food, water, electricity. a lot of people being displaced. a hundred thousand people displaced from tripoli, 20,000 from the east. and there are other grim statistics in this report about those fleeing libya. it has long been a root

and that is, what happens in libya, what happens after the gadhafi regime falls. and in that case it was a range of substate militia forces that continue to vie for power throughout key rural areas and in some cases in misrada and even major cities along the coast. in an across libya it cell. this light footprint strategy succeeds or fails based on the quality of local forces. the same thing we saw in afghanistan where the light footprint approach was used in 2001 to overthrow the taliban regime. but the strategy was afterwards. this is just as relevant for syria, perhaps for iraq, but as relevant for syria today as it was in libya in 2011 and afghanistan in 2001 where that proach waapproach was used. >> they are apparently moving around on motorcycles, i.s.i.l, instead of convoys, that they're putting their black flags on empty houses to guide us in the wrong direction. can adjusts like that effectively negate our power in the air? you are a special ops guy, do we need more special ops people on the ground in syria and iraq? >> well, i think any good group like i

i remember all that was true about gadhafi in 2010, 2011 and if you look at libya today, the then what question seems to be a very scary question mark and can say about isis' progenitor, al qaeda in iraq, who then gave birth to this. >> well, the problem is the crushing of al qaeda in iraq in particular was done in way that was entirely betrayed by nuri al maliki and the iraqi government and let the iraqis essentially get away with it. they broke their own promises but they broke our promises, too. that's not something that we ever should have turned a blind eye to. the what next question is really complicated. it's a serious one and it has two different answers. one in iraq where i think you really need to look at, you know, a much greater form of federalism in iraq, and a way to empower the sunni/iraqi arabs who essentially either have not done anything to stem the wave of isis in their areas or have in some cases, others fought alongside them. they have to be incentivized to see isis for what it is and say, look, there's a future in much you have much less of a dominant subordinatio

you've always come back, from iraq, syria, afghanistan, even libya after gadhafi's forces captured andr 44 days. you tracked time, scratching marks with your zipper on prison walls, scrawling notes on cigarette boxes, reciting the qur'an with other prisoners. in the absence of sparrows, the front page story says you have been missing since november 22, 2012. everything else, it doesn't say. in the absence of sparrows, you simply wandered off past the so sonoco, pockets stuffed, the apartment is open still. the last line of the poem is the apartment a open still and, yonu know, it doesn't end. there's a dash. it's a poem that -- when i stopped working on it, it's intentionally unfinished because we were waiting for jim's return. i plan to continue writing about jim and about his plight because writing for me is one of the ways i make sense of the world. i look at august 19th -- i actually wrote that morning a poem entitled open letter, says james foley in syria. and we got the news that day jim had been killed. >> ifill: again, the major developments of the day, president obama prepared

as bad as gadhafi was. as bad as hussein was. >> what you're saying is we cuad this. i would argue that the surge was effective. that we had an emerging democracy, albeit an imperfect one. and the only thing we needed to do was keep training forces and intelligence forces on the ground which the president is now doing which prevented all these cities americans fought, died and bled for from being taken over by isis. >> i think you have a good point. i don't disagree with it. the only thing i would say is we didn't create the conflict. the conflict's been going on for a thousand years. the conflict is between a bizarre barbaric form of islam versus the rest of islam, it's sunni versus shiite. it's a long ongoing war. we didn't create. but we did allow a festering of chaos when we toppled the four secular dictators, gadhafi, mubarak, assad maybe and hussein. every time the secular has failed, chaos has risen and radical islam has become dominant. radical islam is our enemy in all of those countries. we need to understand how we got there in order to figure out how to fi

at the worst since the last three years since the death of gadhafi. they're trying oget the government going. >> a court sentenced mohamed badea, on charges of murder and insighting violence, in a protest near cairo last year. hundreds of members of the muslim brotherhood have been sentenced to death in mass trials that have drawn criticism from human rights groups. >>> meanwhile egyptian activist mohamed al baya, after previously being sentenced to 15 years in jail. he was the leading figure in 2011 revolt that toppled former president hosne mubarak. >>> peter greste, mohamed fahmy and baher mohamed are sentenced to years in prison. (f) have been deployed to car none has brought lasting stability, 6500 african union troops have been in car since july of last year, but struggled to stop the violence. over fears of a genocide. 2000 french soldiers will work alongside the new u.n. force. under the u.n. mission almost 2,000 peace keepers and military police will be deployed by the end of next year. nazmin bashiri is there. >> 10,500 soldiers in all have

you'll remember the rebels who toppled gadhafi more than three years ago. >>> this morning president poroshenko accused russia of launching direct and open aggression against his country. representatives from russia, ukraine, and separatist rebels are meeting today to try to negotiate a truce. they have been advancing down the eastern coast. wendy gillette reports. >> reporter: russia ya's president is ready to talk. vladimir pew kin called on ukraine sunday to start a discussion on the crisis in ukraine including talks about statehood for the region. some say use of the word statehood could mean russia is raising the stakes for regional independence. this sudden change in tone for moscow comes one day after the european union threat to draw up new economic sanctions against russia, and ukraine's president warning of the potential of all out war. >> we are very close to the point of nonreturn. >> reporter: pro-russia separatists launched a naval attack against ships on sunday but in one side of work they swapped for pair a troopers. key lawmakers say the united states should take act

. >>> since gadhafi was overthrown in 2011, libya has desended into chaos.january the general of the national congress refused to resign. the prime minister at the time was forced to quit. a new prime minister was chosen. but the supreme court annulled his appointment. an election was held in june, but most of the seats up for grabs were won by sectarian groups. the election and the future of libya have been disputed ever since. airports in the two biggest cities have been reduced to rebel. foreigns and diplomats have been told to leave, and libya is for the time being left with two competing leaderships that came to speak on behalf of the people one in tripoli and the other one forced out of the capitol. salomon is a former advisor to libya's change party. he joins me now live from benghazi. thank you very much for joining us. what is the point of these talks if the opposition is not there, if everybody is not represented? >> actually, i think it's a message for the government in tripoli tell them the only way is the political negotiation and political dial

similarly he is accused of taking money from gadhafi, and this summer he was taken in for questions onion. he hit back immediately insisting he had never broken the law. now his announcement of return to politics, he has three years to win over the pub and clear his name. >> you can always keep up with the latest on our website, aljazeera.com. ♪ caltech caltech >>> this is "techknow", a show >>> this is "techknow", a show about innovations that saves about innovations that saves lives. lives. we explore hardware and humanity we explore hardware and humanity in a unique way. in a unique way. this is a show about scientists this is a show about scientists by scientists. by scientists. let's check out the team of let's check out the team of so-called nerves. so-called nerves.

we take out gadhafi. we thought that would change.to bad in libya, we've had to pull out our people. i'm not supporting assad, i think he should be gone. but as long as he's able to remain there, he's fighting the same people that we're asking people to train to fight that we're going to spend $500 million. it makes no sense to me and i can't sell it. i've tried. you can't sell this stuff. >> meanwhile, this video allegedly shows the wreckage of a syrian warplane that was shot down by islamic state militants. nbc has confirmed isis released the video but is still working to verify that it is the same plane. and a man from rochester, new york, is now facing charges after being indicted for allegedly trying to support isis. authorities say he also tried to kill members of the u.s. military who return from iraq. >>> now we shift attention to the battle, the growing battle, against the threat of ebola. president obama on tuesday announcing he's going to send 3,000 troops to west africa to stop the spread of ebola before it poses a wider a

warlords and their militias seizing control the country plunged into chaos after former leader moammar gadhafi was out. when the free flow of alms allowed various militant groups to seize power we asked the editor of the pan-african news while what he thinks the situation could be heading. the security situation in libya is becoming even more precarious the united states anticipating that this what happened pulled out its personnel and drove them to tunisia well i think the united states is trying to figure out which road to take they have a lot at stake their attempts to remake libya in their own image they may decide to get allies some type of military force to get in and set up a beachhead in libya but this of course will only spark more animosity and more fighting a possible grow war about those who are opposed to the u.s. backed militias inside the country now coming up on r.t. international so if you should not say i'm sorry i think i but if you're watching in the u.k. people about looks at how the rise of islamic state militants is driving iraq and syria to the brink of collapse stay wi

the former leader moammar gadhafi was ousted by the free flow of various militant groups to seize power we asked the editor of the pan-african news why why he thinks the situation could be heading. the security situation in libya is becoming even more precarious the united states anticipating that this would happen pulled out his personnel and drove them to tunisia well i think the united states is trying to figure out which road to take they have a lot at stake their attempts to remake libya in their own image they may decide to get allies some type of military force to get in and set up a beachhead in libya but this of course will only spark more animosity and more fighting a possible grow war about those who are opposed to the u.s. backed militias inside that country. now back to our top story because these are live pictures from the memorial ceremony at the school in south russia ten years ago it was attacked by terrorists who took more than a thousand people hostage hundreds were killed many more injured if you can see that people are laying flowers in memory of the victims is a ce

warlords and ammunition seizing control of the country plunged into chaos after former leader moammar gadhafi was ousted when a free flow of alms allowed various militant groups to seize power we asked the editor of the pan-african news why what he thinks the situation could be heading. the security situation in libya is becoming even more precarious the united states anticipating that this what happened out pulled out his personnel and drove them to tunisia well i think the united states is trying to figure out which road to take they have a lot at stake their attempts to remake libya in their own image they may decide to utilize some type of military force to get in and sort of a beachhead in libya but this of course will only spark more animosity and more fighting a possible grow war about those who are opposed to the u.s. backed militias inside the country but islamic state fighters have also taken control of huge areas in iraq and syria crossed all panel discuss whether this could make america once again intervene in the middle east. well clearly that has been a failed strategy when it c

civil war as political divisions and fighting among the rebel groups that overthrew former strong man gadhafireate to continue chaos and uncertainty. >>> couldn't are in powell fox news. >> russian president vladmir putin is calling on ukraine to talk about solutions. he continues to deny there are russian troops inside ukraine the president came to an agreement yesterday and swapped dozens of ukrainian troops for nine captured russian paratroopers who had been found on ukrainian soil this as nato and the european union talked about imposing more tough economic sanctions on russia. >> people in the nation's capitol are warned about a new widespread phone scam. people are calling claiming to be agents. their demanding payment for fake tax leans. authorities say the phony agent who usually has a heavy accent the unsecretarying person owes money to theism rs if it's not paid immediately they'd they'll be arrest. >> she said she was calling from a civil division and they had legal papers. if you talk to them long enough they will ask you for money. it's sort of a you're in big trouble and we've g

gadhafi was isolateed. here he knows where to begin in iraq eand extend in syria but he does not know how this will end, his advisors do not bring in a sense iarioayear -- scenario. neil: that lead niece believe that isis will continue growing and threatening. >> they will be growing, and they will hit their trucks and caravans, that will happen, they will get more organizations in the world, neil, libya, somalia, nigeria, i predict they will join isis. neilhing to worry about, walid farris if you. >> thank you. >> elsewhere, samsung is trying to out cool kaple with bigger -- apple with bigger and better phones, i will tell you about one thing that samsung left out this could make my mother made the best toffee in the world. it's delicious. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen. i'm janet long and i formed my toffee company through legalzoom. i never really thought i would make money doing what i love. we created legalzoom to help people start their b

gadhafi was isolateed. here he knows where to begin in iraq eand extend in syria but he does not know how this will end, his advisors do not bring in a sense iarioayear -- scenario. neil: that lead niece believe that isis will continue growing and threatening. >> they will be growing, and they will hit their trucks and caravans, that will happen, they will get more organizations in the world, neil, libya, somalia, nigeria, i predict they will join isis. neil: that is something to worry about, walid farris if you. >> thank you. >> elsewhere, samsung is trying to out cool kaple with bigger -- apple with bigger and better phones, i will tell you about one thing that samsung left out this could make people like jennifer lawrence, freak out. [ female announcer ] you get sick, you can't breathe through your nose... suddenly you're a mouthbreather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than cold medicines alone. so you can breathe and sleep. shut your mouth and sleep right.

the country is gripped by the worst violence since the death of muammar gadhafi. >> we find ourselves at a critical moment in libyas democratic position. a faltering political process has brought the country closer to the brink of conflict and strikes. >> members of the security council are concerned about the harsh toll the crisis has taken on civilians, with 300,000 displaced or fled the country due to the violence. we support the efforts of the u humanitarian agencies now assisting the displaced and conflict affected populations. >> security council diplomats stress there is no military solution to the problems of libya. they say there should be dialogue between all the sides, but they've been trying to get that dialogue going for almost three years, since the death of gadhafi. aljazeera at the united nations. >> the u.n. security council adopting a resolution to tighten those arms embarring goes against libya. >> the manhunt continues in the ambush shooting of two pennsylvania state troopers. one died, another was critically wounded. authorities are doing everything they can to fi

libya has been marked by the worst violence fins moammar gadhafi fell. >>> hundreds injured after protesters clashed with police. police used tear gas and rubber bullets. they marched on the home of the prime minister. his party rigged last year's e lexes. the prime minister denied the allegations. >>> a lot of weather here last night. >> yeah. >> not sure you got much sleep with all the banging out there. jennifer gray has more. good morning, jennifer. >> good morning. a lot of rain across the northeast. even a tornado confirmed, ef-0 in massachusetts. more severe weather for today. we are going to look at the midwest. chicago, indianapolis, detroit, st. louis, springfield, kansas city, all under the threat of damaging winds, large hail. the slight possibility of an isolated tornado. we are watching for that this afternoon. we have a lot of moisture from the gulf of mexico. pop-up showers along the gulf coast. that will be pushing to the east as we go through the next couple days. new york gets a break. possibly more rain on the way tomorrow. something else to watch. in the meantime, you ar

decided to join the coalition to strike gadhafi in 2011, there was a broad effort to build -- the obamaration believes perhaps rightly that's impossible this time around. there's no way to get a u.n. resolution on syria because russia will oppose. and after three years of avoiding u.s. military intervention in syria, they simply are doing this on an ad hoc basis and so under the gun and to panicked really, that they haven't gotten around to it. their first concern is domestic political blowback. the international political blowback is something they can deal with later. that will have consequences for the success and sustainability of the mission. >> that is a concern. u.s. secretary of state john kerry says almost 40 countries have agreed to take part in the fight against isis. but in reality, sunni nations are very lukewarm on taking any significant role in this fight. without them, you have to wonder if they don't take the lead in this, why should the u.s. go out on a limb? >> the obama administration is stuck between a rock and hard place. only the one hand, they feel the need to re

taking money from gadhafi, and this summer he was taken in for questions on that investigation. he hit back immediately insisting he had never broken the law. now his announcement of return to politics, he has three years to win over the pub and clear his name. >> you can always keep up with the latest on our website, aljazeera.com. ♪ caltech caltech >>> this is "techknow", a show >>> this is "techknow", a show about innovations that saves about innovations that saves lives. lives. we explore hardware and humanity we explore hardware and humanity in a unique way. in a unique way. this is a show about scientists this is a show about scientists by scientists. by scientists. let's check out the team of let's check out the team of so-called nerves. so-called nerves. lindsay moran, an analyst - new lindsay moran, an analyst - new technology can make guns safer. technology can make guns safer. does it work. does it work. we put it to we put it to the "techknow" the "techknow" test. test. kyle hill is a science writer kyle hill is a science writer with a background in with a background

so that's in the almost three years since gadhafi was killed. very grim readings when you read this report. how it's affecting the people there, rapidly deteriorating living conditions, fuel water and electricity. so many other factions and political players. i think it's worth telling you, the other grim statistic in the report. which is about the report we are trying to get out of libya. we know it's long been a route for migrants from other parts of africa. the number of people now arrived in italy between january and july this year was 77,000 people, that's double the amount last year. and another statistic which i think is pretty staggering, so far, 1,000 refugees from libya have lost their lives at sea drown trying to get away from libya. >> james bays reporting live from the u.n. in new york. thanks james. >>> yemen, tension is mounting in the capital as the hutis, belonged to the minority sect of islam. for decades they fought for more power in sunni-regulated yemen. posoppose a plan. >>> huti rebels have been camped around for several w

. >> and nicholas, do you get a sense of the nato allies, and certainly a key with gadhafi. can you get a sense on how great the humanitarian impact is in that region of the world, what's going on in -- the nato meeting is -- i think that nato has a crucial role to play, vis-a-vis russia and what is happening in ukraine. it has to underscore article 5, the collective defense is real. >> i think there is still a certain amount of skepticism about how real that is. but in the case of isis, we desperately need a coalition. but that coalition is with european states. >> are these people willing to step up? because its always seems that the united states is criticized for acting and then criticized for not acting because these people don't want to do anything. >> they're indispensable. because it doesn't work to have the u.s. kind of do anything on its own. we need the sunni arab countries there to step up, and not only provide airpower in some cases. >> what do we need specifically? >> saudi arabia, kuwait, would be a good start. and -- >> turkey? >> turkey would be very importa

i asked him what mistake western powers mate in libya post-gadhafi. >> i think it was the same mistake we see unfolding in iraq in front of us which is not remaining engaged. simply taking the military action and then stepping away from it. before there was a sufficient level of stabilization. what that means is we should have left trainers on the military side, i think put more effort into the diplomatic and political side. and here i think this is something the europeans in particular could have taken on but did not for a variety of reasons. many understandable. a lot going on in the world. it initially appeared that libya was on a reasonably good course. as we all know it spiraled into a very challenging situation at this point. hindsight is 20-20. what we should do in the future i would lean back into this situation because for the europeans south of them, they can't afford another very chaotic situation in addition to what's already happening in the eastern mediterranean. >> the general also told us that united states has to be more involved in iraq. >>> citizens suspected of join

assad to go away tomorrow but if we let the rebels take over is it going to look like libya after gadhafithink what we're going to see is something as we saw in iraq after the first gulf war. when we ran operation northern watch, operation southern watch, there was a rump baghdad that was in charge but wasn't able to go after the people. kurdistan wasn't able to go to the shia in the south. it may well be whether it is by design or consequence that we actually end up with an area inside of syria, the protection of the no-fly zone, which would be helpful for the turks by the way, and assad in charge of a rump syria, but still an area that coalition protects for the people of syria that don't want to belong to an assad government anymore and ensures he can no longer slaughter his people through the use of his aircraft, his barrel bombs and artillery. >> is that the direction you see this going when we heard drew reporting that rebels leaders in syria are very frustrated that the targets are all isis and not assad? >> well, i think that's a legitimate concern on the part of the rebels, but i

got rid of gadhafi. chaos. iraq. got rid of saddam. the fact that you have impressive fire power ordered. doesn't mean you have solved the strategic problem on the ground. the strategic problem on the ground is this. attacking isis in syria. which is going to strengthen, the assad regime. the russians. and the iranians who are the, the sponsors of the assad regime. mean wheel -- meanwhile your big goal is to in some way, or another. owe po oppose them. how do you make sense of this. find some middle course where you are attacking isis, but not helping isis' principal opponent the assad regime i you look at iraq, we say we are going to make this work, we will have an iraqi government that will include all the iraqis. it doesn't. you can say it. it hasn't actually happened. >> you say how do you do all these things. you said that you actually think that the president is right in leading from behind, what do you mean by that? on this issue? >> i think that the -- this is fundamentally an arab cancer. it need to be solved by arabs. we shou

just three years ago president sarkozy ordered the french military to overthrow libya's moammar gadhafi. then president hollande mustered support trying to overthrow syria's president, bashar al assad. and then he sent people to mali for the al qaeda linked terrorists. their activism has been appreciated by her neighbors and her citizens, some of whom are beginning to complain for the price tag of the foreign intervention, a price tag which grew this past week with the assassination of a french hiker in algeria apparently culled because of the battle in fundamentalism in iraq. for many it brought home france's role. it indicates two out of three french would accept. >> this is a war which concerns france. france feels responsible for the order in the world. and this is a force of airstrikes. >> many things to jim bid did he man for that report. it felt like the beheading raised a steak for france. it makes the stakes so much higher. >> that group wasn't affiliated with isis. >> copy cat. >> inspired by it. >>> coming up after the break, what a u.s. police officer is now saying about the

which, which, toppled president, the late president moammar gadhafi. >> a new powerful alliance emerged in the region. the chair of contemporary middle east studies at school of economics thank you for your insight this morning, just past 8:20 where you are. thank you very much. we want to get you to the united states capital, 3:20 in the morning. senior white house correspondent, joe johns joins us, i understand you have new information for us as we are bringing in new bit of details on this developing story. what do you know. >> right, errol. information just across, and what the allies did last night. i will read it. says they conducted 14 strikes against isis targets. the strikes destroyed or damaged multiple targets in the vicinity of, raqqa, abu khamil, isil, fighters, headquarters, command, control facilities, storage facility, finance center. sa play trucks. armed vehicles. they also say, all air craft safely exited the strike area. so no aircraft apparently were shot down. also, they say the air strikes destroyed two isil humvees, and armed vehicle, a fighting position, southwe

is it better to say that libya was better under gadhafi? >> no, i don't think so. there are two really important points to make here. i mean, if you can get evolutionary change, it's better than revolutionary change. it's why i argued after my experience in iraq, if you could have gotten agreement, it would have been better to do that. but the important thing about arab spring is that people are not going to take the dictatorships. the question is not do you keep the status quo, they are not going to do that. the question is, and this is the fundamental battle, it's the philosophy on the other and the good news for us is they are modern minded and they want the right things for their country. we've got to get on site with them and support them. by the way, in this regard, it's important that we support the president in egypt. >> he's going to be here, the new president of egypt. just clarify what the uk is willing to do in this war against isis and syria and in iraq. i know you're not part of the government and you don't speak for the prime minister but you follow

once gadhafi was gone, they turned, we took northern africa, stable, fighting radical jihadists with and turned it into a haven and a playground for radical jihadists that now threaten the underbelly of western europe and the rest of northern africa. the last time we did this, we failed miserably. we haven't had a discussion about what we learned from that misadventure in libya. >> michael,why would this be a good idea to arm the syrian rebels? >> well, i think the current obama administration policy, as the it is, is not a good idea. let me tell you why. three reasons. first and foremost. free syrian army was founded not to fight isis. founded to fight an, eventually overthrow the assad regime. the administration has been quite clear. that is not the priority. not the policy here. we are helping them become agents to the united states and prosecuting the war on terror. the free syrian army is being attacked not by isis, but the assad regime. "the new york times" had a article saying moderate rebels, we are currently supporting, arming, training, the cia not the pentagon, had been at

the uae and qatar used air power against gadhafi in libya. >> we need to see visible arab participationa bunch of white guys. the western countries coming in, white man's burden coming in and attacking a country gbenga. that's the reason we need to have a visible presence evil ca >> do you think the saudis are going to step up to the plate? >> i don't know but we need to provide some visible sign of assistance so they are not hiding behind any kind of -- >> turkey has been very disappointing. >> i'm disappointed in some of the nato countries, period. nato has a long step of stairs you have to climb to get into nato. there's no back door. once you're in, you're in. even if you don't measure up to the kind of requirements that are necessary to be a member of nato, i'd like to see them consider a way out for those countries who want the benefit of having nato security, not willing to bear the burdens of it. i'd like to have that considered as an exit door as well. >> i spoke with the supreme allied commander and unlike afghanistan where there was a nato contingent deployed -- >> we're carr

i would say that president obama's policy of dethroning gadhafi, of going after assad, has made the jihadist stronger. i don't say we're responsible. i don't say america's responsible. i say president obama's responsible. >> he draws a red line in the sand and doesn't follow-up on it, that shows weakness. so we have putin now invading the ukraine. islamists taken over our embassy in tripoli. isis beheading americans and obama says he doesn't have a strategy. and then he gives contradictory remarks in astonia today. and i'm thinking does he have any clue what's going on? what is going on through the mind of the president? and what should be going through his mind? >> well, what should be going through his mind is he should be obeying the constitution. we should have a big debate in congress and with the american people. he's not going to do it. but therefore he actually weakens the presidency, weakens america and weakens everything we stand for if he's not willing to obey the constitution. >> senator rand paul, thank you for being with us. >>> coming up next. >> i think this is a potential 9/

we took out gadhafi, got so bad in libya, we've had to pull out. i'm not supporting in any way shape or form assad, think he should be gone. but as long as he's able to remain there, he's fighting the same people that we're trying to fight and spending $500 million. makes no sense to me and i can't sell it. you can't sell this stuff. >> rand paul from kentucky is making all the moves as a 2016 presidential candidate. said arming syrian rebels was a stepping stone to americans in combat. >> as isis grows stronger or they're not quelled by sending arms to feckless allies in syria, then what happens? then they come back again and again. there's already the drum beat. there's already those in both parties who insist that we must have american gis on the ground. i'm not sending any american soldiers. i'm not sending your son, your daughter, or mine over to the middle of that chaos. >> joining me now at the "hardball" round table, jonathan capehart, michelle bernhard, and zeke miller of "time" magazine who wrote the article i just read from. zeke, let's

has been since the bombing of gadhafi leaving militias and terror factions in a largely lawless countrythere. our shall international correspondent nic robertson is live in london with the latest. nick, the scenes are shock. what do we really know who these guys are and when this video was shot? >> well, there's an understanding that if they werent in fact the guards who were left to guard the embassy after the pullout of embassy staff at the end of jewel, they certainly allowed those same guards allowed these people to come in. the militia that will pretty much controls tripoli right now and fighting for it and took control of the international airport over the past few weeks is an islamist militia, the dawn of libya. them comprise of a group known as the central libya shield. there are fighters from misrata along sort of halfway along the 800 mile long libyan coast. that doesn't tell us a lot about them, fundamentally what we know is they're islamist fighters. they've let people into the pool and abused the embassy. we're told windows are broken. u.s. ambassador deborah jones tweeted