gadhafi did what they wanted. he handed over his weapons programs. when push came to shove, no one supported him. so i think, you know, when he is sitting there making his analysis, that's part of the pit under. the other part of the picture is got to be what happened to gadhafi after he gave up the epwithens, weapons, after he trusted. he was killed by his own people. that's got to be going through kim's mind as well. the gadhafi experience is not one that's going to work well in kim's mind for coming to the table to talk. >> can still see the pictures of the golden gun, nic robertson. thank you. your op-ed, cnn.com. appreciate you. more on the breaking news in three minutes. hi..and i know that we have phonaccident forgiveness.gent, so the incredibly minor accident that i had tonight- four weeks without the car. okay, yup. good night. with accident forgiveness your rates won't go up just because of an accident. switching to allstate is worth it. you myour joints...thing for your heart... or your digestion... so why wouldn't you take something for t

own to fact the laws of the land it's been six years since made his intervention to oust colonel gadhafi but now it's another military commander emerging as a key player on the political scene the intervention in libya has been an unmitigated disaster a state of confusion and failed state status which live beyond. all power comes out of the battle over gun. has a lot of guns. in his fight against the extreme islamist elements well able to use it we have after all this blood the hope for someone like him to take the reins of power and rebuild their lives. the end state it's come full circle so libya could be about to go full circle with the possibility of a military man once again taking the reins. an israeli police raided a hospital in jerusalem has led to the death of the patient we've got the details witness accounts to after this break. here's what people have been saying about rejected in. the long run the only show i go out of my way to talk to you know what it is that really packs a punch oh yeah john oliver of mark to america is going to say we are apparently better than. the c. p

yes i was ambassador a long time ago and gadhafi is talking of course i think i think the real question is that gadhafi had systematically destroyed liquidated all institutions in libya there were no institutions at all there was no civil society there was no political parties are not that and the libyans have found it very difficult to put that together since the revolution when they overthrew gadhafi in two thousand and eleven. do you expect the tripoli based government to join in the peace negotiations there have been no differences throughout the year that they will do this but when it comes to the crunch will they. yes i think so the terms have to be negotiated between the various parties of course and i'm not going to say that i backed against the all the but the question is yes when for example prism i crawled from saddam meeting the other day he had a daughter from the head of the saudi tripoli and they leased and words agreed with each other. libya has already seen attempts to create a united government for example the un back in twenty fifteen a lot was put into that why did n

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in libya's ongoing conflict a long time military veteran took part in a coup that brought colonel gadhafi in his day to power but also played a crucial role in toppling him again in twenty eleven americanah explains how general have to for his way back into libya's political arena after decades of broad. a pivotal figure in shaping the future of libya is a military strongman and previous backer of colonel gadhafi although in two thousand and eleven khalifa returned from exile to lead rebel forces against national libyan army has the support of some international heavyweights including france a country open to talks with rival government cars in the. western leaders initially celebrated his fall from power and even promised a brighter future for libya. you would get rid of him you would choose freedom. thank you. the united states is committed to the libyan people you have won your revolution we came we saw that you died. what they didn't foresee however was the instability and chaos that continues to plague the country. there are currently three governments simultaneously trying to will l

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was doomed and there was nothing wrong in getting rid of a dictator like gadhafi what was wrong he was doing it with the military action without preparing the aftermath weed out having a plan on what could be the future of libya and dropping libya you know. like a corpse the day after gadhafi had been defeated we have been asking for the international community starting with france and u.k. to get involved in the reconstruction of libya institution building. creating a national security force but there was the international community was totally destructive once they it is the once again the phenomenon of the mission accomplished you do the military beat you have success and you've you think that you it's done it's not it's only the beginning maybe not the exact security a lot of other countries are opposed to the senate i mean back to today it's really is saying that libya must control some of the ngos saving these drowning refugees i mean what you just said is there's not a hair's breath between what you said in the british government. does it really realize that there are three gove

own to fact the laws of the land it's been six years since made his intervention to oust colonel gadhafi but now it's another military commander emerging as a key player on the political scene the intervention in libya has been an unmitigated disaster in a state of confusion and failed state status which live beyond. all power comes out of the battle over gun. a lot of guns. in his fight against the extreme islamist elements well able to use it we have after all this blood the hope for someone like him to take the reins of power and rebuild their lives. beyond state it's come full circle so libya could be about to go full circle with the possibility of a military man once again taking the reigns. on the u.s. marines have been pairing for world war three with the help of a combat simulator set in the ninety's and european country with russian speaking insurgents although some have questioned just how realistic it was. no. thanks. he watching us a thanks being with us at the softer new for me and how. the city of minima so modest was hit the hardest by the twenty eleven tsunami but it was

own to fact the laws of the land it's been six years since made his intervention to oust colonel gadhafi but now it's another military commander emerging as a key player on the political scene the intervention in libya has been an unmitigated disaster in a state of confusion and failed state status which live beyond. all power comes out of the battle over gun. law. in his fight against the extreme islamist elements well able to use it we have after all this blood the hope for someone like him to take the reins of power and rebuild their lives. the end state it's come full circle so libya could be about to go full circle with the possibility of a military man once again taking the reins. reporting head an israeli police raided a hospital in jerusalem has led to the death of a shouldn't be and witness accounts of the. league. called the future we don't believe. everyone in the world should be a real leader and you'll get the old the old. the old according to. the modern world come along for the. global war hawks selling you on the idea that dropping bombs brings peace to the chicken hawks

by the security services because the aim was to overthrow gadhafi and that happened when david cameron went there and all the crowds were cheering among those crowds no doubt with some of the the man just the boys there are a lot of al qaeda inspired people there as well and many of those people were trained by the british s.a.'s. this web of collaboration for oxy power in the middle east invariably will produce this kind of violence and what we've seen since nine eleven is that the violence has come home and it's come home not only to the united states it's come home to this country it is very briefly no one got into trouble for british funding of al qaeda majid dean in afghanistan do you expect anyone to get into trouble the british funding of what is the mists that ended up i would not just reference i mean the british role in afghanistan was was virtually the beginning of the british role in operation cycle which which was devised by zubrzycki who was president carter's so-called national security adviser and in the end through the copper and reagan is these these the fanatics the

they want to do overthrow gadhafi and these people we used how do you think if it's in the debate he may have traveled to syria from as a british subject as well to support what in effect was the british position just to support the rebels that was the route through once gadhafi was overthrown. these people who now were. at the very least al qaeda affiliated were on their way to syria that was the next stop and so many of the libya the manchester boys if you like to use it you never ended up in syria fighting the west war or fighting the west the efforts to wave or throw the government of a sad he was the next one. these it's a complicated story most certainly but it has strands running through it and the strongest strand is the support of powerful western governments like the british government the u.s. government the french government for what they call assets for these terrorist assets if a b.b. was known to the authorities why was he able to do what he did and it's quite interesting to see that now we have. in contrast to a leak from the united states last year which caused a gre

we said to moammar gadhafi if you give up your missile development, we will not invade.re living with one of the unintended consequences of that missile policy. and kim jong-un says it's better to be a nuclear power and not believe the word of the west. >> it north koreans have not been shy in saying, you know what? we don't want to wind up like moammar ca gadhafi and his nucl regime. >> this has been through four presidents now, president clinton, president bush, obama and now trump. assuming he is a rational actor, if we could go into a district bilateral negotiation and guarantee that we would not pursue regime change, it seems to me that we should give that a shot before we would have to pre-emptively strike their icbms. >> a pre-emptive strike would result in enormous casualties south of the demilitaryized zone, and in japan, tens of thousands of people within a day or two could be killed. >> that's the reason why we should give negotiation a chance, recognizing that it may not work, i hope, by the way, that some of this rhetoric, while president trump was clearly s

and italy to switzerland where he got the political asylum he said to the federal authorities that gadhafi regime is making pressure against him because of his religious views now he has a permission of residence here in switzerland. how much money has switzerland actually paid to this same army and welfare benefits why would he even receiving the money. who got six hundred thousand swiss francs social welfare here in switzerland is known this is the number we can confirm. he never learned german or french so it was not possible to integrate him in the job market so it was not possible that he has got to work so he got this social welfare of course the views are not excluding him it is from the social welfare but he got the money exactly from the society he is preaching against did your investigation go. big attention in switzerland of the authorities responded. at the moment is interested cation and are put on not only still one of the main subject of the public discussion and the mayor of feel of the city who was very very clear in our program he said this kind of hate speech is not acce

policy especially on the russian hysteria that i mentioned a few times earlier on the overthrow of gadhafi on syria asking crucial questions like who is going to fill the power vacuum in syria if assad is ousted what's sad is that it's only tucker carlson asking these questions what does that say about the mainstream media what does that say about an american leftist. liberal and leftist media. having somebody like max no no no somebody like max blumenthal. sends out minutely huge for a yet says something it's a step in the right direction of how many other anchors on mainstream media on c.n.n. imus n.b.c. fox or are inviting guests like the hard left is like maxwell with all and particularly people who disagree with you that's really important here rob rob and i disagree along and that's why he's on this program here rob what i think is really interesting i will say go ahead get real quick up before i go to robert i will say that yeah what i will say is that i believe that. tucker carlson invited max blumenthal on the show because they agreed on the topics that they were chatting about yo

leaks for example how the disastrous absolutely disastrous intervention in libya the struction of the gadhafi government which made to. isis and large segments of the country weapons flows going over to syria in question. into m job and within syria including isis there in those emails but while it sounds remains an arbitrary detention by the british government according to the un whistleblower convicted of giving his wiki leaks organization information is shared you'll be released today private chelsea manning revealed the collateral murder video is proving us military barbarism in iraq she was allegedly tortured by the obama administration and the u.n. torture investigators were barred by president obama i am deeply disappointed and frustrated by the prevarication of the u.s. government with regards to my attempts to visit mr manning president obama ask the world to trust him i have actually asked the pentagon whether or not. the procedures that have been taken in terms of his confinement are appropriate and are meeting our basic standards they assured me that they are well joining me now f

missed the libyan war you know that video of hillary clinton when they asked her how she felt when gadhafi was murdered you know sodomized with nines she went we came we saw he die he they should have taken her out a straight jacket instead they ran it for president yeah absolutely and that's what's been revealed and that's what the left wing media in america as a revealed of a selves to be really in the pocket of the deep state warmongers gerald out of time thanks for being on the kaiser report thank you max all right well that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacey i would like to thank our special guest gerald celente of trends research dot com if you want to reach us on twitter it's kaiser report and it's all next time by zero. one else seems wrong. just don't. get to see. this day come to. an end game equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. about your sudden passing i've only just learned you worry yourself and taken your last turn. your act caught up to you as we all knew it would i

led state department created a migrant crisis going to libya and had the regime change a government gadhafi and then the democrats celebrated president trump when he was bombing syria so this isn't anything new this isn't just out of nowhere but i would say that there have been we look at this to a bit to negatively at the same time because there are many people within the republican party and the democratic party who are trying to fight back against the neo con persuasion recently congresswoman tulsi gabbert and kentucky senator rand paul the co-sponsored legislation that aims to prevent the u.s. government from funding rebel and terrorist groups which is a step in the right direction it's the top leadership of both parties that are contributing to the the to. to the rise of the neo cons once again and this is dangerous for the american and and as well as the russian people because let's say donald trump remains a peaceful candidate what about his successor what if a democrat gets in there and then he wants to wage war against russia as many democrats have said because moscow supposedly co

missed the libyan war you know that video of hillary clinton when they asked her how she felt when gadhafi was murdered you know sodomized with nines she went we came we saw he die he should've taken her out a straight jacket instead they ran a for president yeah absolutely and that's what's been revealed and that's what the left wing media in america as a revealed of a selves to be really in the pocket of the deep state warmongers jerald are out of time thanks for being on the kaiser report thank you max all right well that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacey i would like to thank our special guest gerald celente of trends research dot com if you want to reach us on twitter it's kaiser report and it's all next time i go. we will willingly accepted the risk of being shot wounded taken prisoner but nooses signed friggin poisoned by room people see stuff that was leaked or biological or chemical products said do not truck tires all types of styrofoam polystyrene batteries trucks there was a complete denial i think at all levels of government t

is not irrational because they have even said we look around and we see what happened to moammar gadhafi when he decided to give up his nuclear weapons we'll look at what has happened to saddam hussein when he decided to give up his nuclear weapons the only way they feel they can stop the u.s. from trying to overthrow them is to have nuclear weapons so if we went ahead with the freeze for freeze that went into peace talks that ended up with a peace treaty because the one nine hundred fifty three. korean armistice never resulted in peace treaty that would be the avenue to deescalation on this could be a breakthrough that donald trump could take credit for for years is that beautiful red bell either below nobody will give you those so the missile system. we are installing in this town some juice return to where you were you visited just last week yes. the that missile system is entirely defensive is it not i don't i'm not i don't understand frankly be a. you know i get the objection of the local people we don't want the defensive missile system here because that puts us in the crosshairs i

you know we took we in libya we took out gadhafi in iraq we took out saddam hussein that you know do. really work out well doing that so this is a change in policy from the obama policy in the early trump policy. recognition one that the policy isn't working that since. the intervention of russia and iran has been so powerful in terms of giving assad the backing that he needed that taking out assad is very unlikely right now and the other is a look around at what comes afterwards and i think in understanding that now we have to broker what comes afterwards now rather then thinking we can overthrow assad and then figure out who and. it seems to me crazy for us to be in a proxy war with russia and it seems crazy for me to mean for us to be antagonizing iran at a time you know their major regional player. or in my off on no you're absolutely right and unfortunately with the moment that we're in terms of the tremendous antagonism that the press and the democratic party have against russian interference in u.s. elections or involvement with the trumpet ministration the working with the rus

thing right now and that is survive he wants to make sure he doesn't die in a ditch like moammar gadhafi did in libya and so he is going to fight at every level and frankly ed i think honestly he will never ever let go of the nuclear capability he will never do that he just won't and finally jack what do you make of the fact that russia and china have not responded to what the president said or to what kim jong un has threatened tonight is this a game changer. well i think it's smart that the russians and the chinese are trying to pull back on this because what this can't be is an ego fight and right now what it felt like was a fight between trump on one side and kim on the other and to see who could make more outlandish statements and the fear is that if somebody flinches if somebody screws up there could be hundreds of thousands of dead people here this is a very real fight this is shockingly dangerous and the last thing we need to do is stand down and start bumping chests and talk about who's the bigger man jack rice always a pleasure good to have you with us tonight thanks so much th

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they saw muammar gadhafi overthrown, he voluntarily abandoned his nuclear program.the north is really committed to this. they've just accelerated, i think, in the last couple of years the pace at which they're doing it. i think one of the big questions is how the north koreans are going to respond to the very confusing signals coming from washington. secretary of state tillerson has mentioned talks but president trump is talking in very, very forceful and extreme language, so i think there is a risk because i don't think the north is going to change its approach of a misunderstanding leading to some kind of conflict. >> woodruff: why do you believe there is a risk of a misunderstanding? >> well, the north koreans are going to respond to threats from the united states with full speed ahead because that's just their style. this is not a system or regime or leadership that's going to bow to that kind of external pressure, and if they fear that the very strong language from president trump means the u.s. might, in fact, be considering some kind of preemptive strike, whe

that nuclear capability they clear now now have as his insurance policy for not winding up moammar gadhafi he look at the united states as about existential threat. we know that's ridiculous but they view it that way and their program is advancing faster than people expected as an insurance policy against that threat. very little, if no incentive for them to come to the negotiating table. you saw in the editorial and seen this administration also try to push on china. that's the key here. the path to pyongyang goes through beijing. use carrots and sticks. one of the sticks, probe into chinese trade packs. also need to look at carrots to incentivize china to have a different calculus. so far willing, chinese, china, willing to accept a nuclear armed north because they don't want a unified peninsula allied to the westant and the exporter and importer involving north korea. >> i see an opportunity for china and helping with the denuclearization. as we extended this with nato causing other nato members to eliminate their nuclear weapons could, china give that assurance, insurance, to north kor

are doing this for self-protection because they fear that kim jong un doesn't want to end up like gadhafi, giving up his nuclear weapons and then being deposed and killed soon after, or whether there is a more hostile intent is hard to know. there is a cult of militant self-reliance is really the foundation of the modern north korea that backs all this up. i just, like jamie, i think the danger of miscalculation, misreading north korea, is so large now. i spent a lot of today talking with people about what would be involved if, as our military commanders begin to think about military options. and it is an immensely complicated problem. it's not just the population of seoul would be in effect hostage to north korean missile strikes, by conventional missile strikes. there are, perhaps, a million, up to a million americans there. there are a million nonamerican foreigners there. you have a situation in which the troops would be rushing north as civilians flee south. it's just the most complicated and potentially catastrophic battle space. secretary mattis said this would be the worst kind of

regardless what our motivations were, in afghanistan, in iraq, in libya, change the regime out, he watches gadhafiive it up, he watches what took place in ukraine as you mentioned, yes, he sees that as troubling to himself. he is actually fairly rational in the development of his strategy. his strategy simply is he doesn't agree with his grandfather and father having nuclear weapons pointed at south korea was sufficient. what he really wants is to put the american people at risk and therefore, they will never be a regime change. the american people are at risk by china's nuclear icbms and russia's nuclear icbms. that is where he is coming from. liz: let's turn to the president's strategy on terror. president trump outlined his strategy in afghanistan. he has been criticized. afghanistan as you know is called the grave ward of empires -- graveyard of empires, but are we building a permanent base in afghanistan to battle the terrorism in the area and nuclear tipped pakistan? >> the president made right decision, overcoming his own reluctance and instincts. in 16 years we don't have much to show for

they watched what happened with gadhafi and don't want to see that with kim jong un. they mentioned iraq, libya, syria to me. they view these weapons as helping them possibly gain concessions. they view them as essential to protect international sovereignty. i guarantee north korea will broadcast his words across the country in their statement of propaganda, that only justifies their efforts in yar eyes and their sacrifices for all they're investing in these weapons at the expense of food, electricity, clean water. >> rear admiral kirby, it is striking, when you look back at harry truman some 72 years ago talking about the bomb on hiroshima and saying, a rain of ruin from the air, the likes of which has never been seen on this earth. we don't know whether that was an extemporaneous comment from the president yesterday. his body language seemed to indicate with the crossed arms and repeating those words, that somebody planted those particular words in his ear. what do you make of the theory that some reports would say he's being a madman like a fox? >> i don't think th

intelligence services would look at for, you know, i don't know, moammar gadhafi, or any foreign governmenthat had internal strife and internal issues. that that is now on the table that is something that foreign governments would want to examine in the united states, who really speaks for the u.s. government. that's a stunning idea that -- and i understand why it would be a question. because the president says one thing in a tweet, and the secretary of state says something else, then you have general mattis having to travel around and say other things to other countries. >> sure. and anderson, again, i wasn't trying to be predictive here. or even suggesting they were trying to be predictive. but you know, intelligence services are inherently pessimistic. they always look to the dark side, because that's where they get their questions. so i'm telling you, my judgment is, other services are beginning to kind of go through their files and try to draw judgments on those kinds of issues here in the united states. and anderson, we've had this conversation before. the veneer of civilization can b