gaetz: we have real oversight going. i think the jury is still out.ernible] >> i'm just a real american. [laughter] >> thanks for what you do for president trump. it means a lot to us. >> i can't go anywhere without her now. >> football player? oh no. [indiscernible] >> 1, 2, 3. [indiscernible] >> we are all the team. one movement, one family. [indiscernible] >> i am waiting for an autograph or something? that is all i am waiting for. >> c-span's campaign 2020 for coverage continues with the presidential primaries and caucuses. watch live on the c-span network is the first votes in the country are cast in the upcoming presidential election. along with candidate speeches and results, beginning with the iowa caucuses on january 15 and the new hampshire primary on january 23. campaign 2024 on c-span, your unfiltered view of politics. ♪ >> listening to programs on c-span through c-span radio just got easier. tell your smart speaker "play c-span radio" and listen to washington journal daily at 7:00 a.m. eastern, other public affairs events throughout the d

gaetz: we have real oversight going. i think the jury is still out.ernible] >> i'm just a real american. [laughter] >> thanks for what you do for president trump. it means a lot to us. >> i can't go anywhere without her now. >> football player? oh no. [indiscernible] >> 1, 2, 3. [indiscernible] >> we are all the team. one movement, one family. [indiscernible] >> i am waiting for an autograph or something? that is all i am waiting for. host: good morning, everyone and welcome to washington journal. we will begin our first hour, log

when matt gaetz introduced a motion to vacate the speaker's chair, which gaetz had threatened to filelie in the day, and then mccarthy tweeted "bring it on" to which gaetz replied "just did." but then it continued when mccarthy replied "ok then." and gaetz replied "well ok." to which mccarthy replied "what happens now?" to which gaetz said, "not sure bro." to which mccarthy replied "i'm not ur bro, bro, but i think if i get a simple majority i survive" prompting gaetz to ask, "simple majority of total or just those present?" to which mccarthy said "simple majority of your mom." and gaetz replied "cool comeback." to which mccarthy said "thanks." to which gaetz replied "i'm being sarcastic b-t-dubs." to which mccarthy replied "i know, dumbass," to which gaetz responded "whatever, dude. my dad says i have to go eat dinner now." so there's a process. so there's a... there's a process. it's chaos! in the end, mccarthy lost with matt gaetz, plus his seven republican cronies, and all of the democrats voting to give him the boot. seems like strange bedfellows, between those two groups, but in

and when they turned their phones back on, matt gaetz had three more venmo requests. [ laughter ] newvernor kathy hochul ordered the state liquor authority to allow bars to serve alcohol as early as 8:00 a.m. yesterday for the buffalo bills game played in london. not only that, during the giants game, she temporarily legalized heroin [ laughter ] the genetic testing company 23 and me announced last week that hackers stole personal data from their data base authorities describe the suspect as 62% european and 38% east asian and native american. [ laughter ] georgia is said to become the first state in the country to offer medical marijuana at pharmacies so, you'll finally have a use for that giant receipt [ laughter ] burger king has announced it will offer a new side that is half french fries, half onion rings. wow, the only way you could get that before was to order onion rings. [ laughter ] best joke of the day it's all a little bit -- still really good show, but it's all a little bit downhill after the onion rings. [ laughter ] and finally, google cloud today announced a new artifi

i want to highlight my favorite florida lid starting with congressman matt gaetz. few politicians not named a trump have dished out more self inflicted wounds on the republican party. congressman gaetz forced mccarthy to force -- and then exploited that vulnerability to replace him with a far more radical speaker less than a year later. only time will tell whether gaetz will cost his party the asked majority in 2024. my ultimate heel weighs down -- sunshine state governor ron desantis, once a leg up on other challenges to trump, but 2023 was the ear of desantis stumbled in his race for the white house, whether it was his off-putting demeanor or obsession with anti-wokeness, governor ron did not exactly put his best foot forward. and he took a beating. >> did you confront the sentence at the heel because he wanted to make that joke? it was a very good joke. i am going to go against the grain of my 20 plus years in democrat politics and do a bunch of republicans, because i do think and washington, it's much harder to go against the grain than it is to go and follow u

only time will tell whether gaetz will cost his party the house majority in 2024. but my ultimate he'll wears them in his b sunshine state governor ron desantis, once in georgia, leg up another challenge is -- 2023 was the year of desantis stumbling in his race for the white house. whether it was his off putting demeanor or his obsession with anti-wokeness, governor ron didn't exactly -- >> did you give ron desantis the heel because he wanted to say that joke? it was a very good joke. i'm gonna go against the grain of my 20 plus years and democratic politics and do a bunch of republicans. because i do think in washington post, it's much harder to go against the grain than it is to kind of follow the soccer ball. so i would say my heroes are liz cheney and mitt romney. i never would've thought that. that would've been -- and worked for obama when we ran against romney. liz cheney, obviously disagree with her on many policy issues. but what they both did was they stuck their neck out. -- standing up for the constitution. and aligning themselves with people they had v

but matt gaetz taking on the ethics committee, okay.. but of course, the ethics committee is still looking into his financial irregularities and sexual irregularities, shall we say. so, he had a lot of interest in defending santos there. and, you know, santos is now going out, trying to take down as many new york republicans as he can. i think he might have oversold it and it, but not quite santos level transgressions. he's got a few items, and it's certainly more than the republicans have come up with against joe biden. so, it's probable -- >> 1000% more, it's like 100,000% more. let's play for everyone to enjoy, here is the cameo that was brought by fetterman to troll bob menendez. >> hey, bobby. look, i don't think i need to tell you, but these people that want to make you get in trouble and want to kick you out and make you run away, you make them put up or shut up! you stand your ground, sir, and don't get bogged down by all the haters out there! stay strong, merry christmas! >> i will buy a cameo too, but he has to do -- that's th

is that what matt gaetz is saying? >> matt gaetz's parroting trump. trump earlier this week, i believe, was saying the same exact thing. saying it's about turnout and if they don't get the turnout it's going to make a big difference. so, yeah. i think they're worried about turnout. and i think, in addition to that real practical concern, i think, you know, trump is such a showman, right? i think he's worried about the perception that if it's close in iowa, for example, that he'll lose that momentum and -- lose this very wide gap he has in the polls right now between him and his nearest competitor, whether it's haley or desantis given the poll. he's worried about what that would look like and what that will say. i think he wants to lower expectations but also really drive turnout. >> molly, are we missing something here? the polls are so, i mean, there are just so different this time around. the way trump has this monumental lead. it's just a little strange to hear matt gaetz site, we'll, people don't know how to caucus or don't know what a caucus, as

i'm sure gaetz is glad he doesn't have to worry about mccarthy anymore, but he does certainly have to worry about the chance of possibly getting expelled because the house ethics committee is investigating him. they've been doing that for the last two years or so, initially, and that process was launched for democrats control the house, but of course, the committee is not partisan and they've been hearing from witnesses over the summer, when it comes to allegations that gaetz was potentially involved in having sex with a minor, and of, course we know the department of was investigating this as well. and i think that test for santos, one's colleagues were able to expel him without santos being convicted, breaking that precedent, as you heard gaetz say, did open the door for gates colleagues to do the same thing to him, if and when that report comes out from the ethics committee. >> okay, thank you for all of that. julie tsirkin on capitol hill. so you know her from her 2013 filibuster at the texas state capitol. it was important to pay attention then, and then ten years later, it's imp

i am plucking out matt gaetz. here it is. >> mr. speaker, whatever mr. santos did with botox or onlyfans is far less concerning to me than the indictment against senator menendez who's holding gold bars inscribed with arabic in them from egypt while he is still getting classified briefings today. but he's not getting thrown out of the senate. he's getting classified briefings under indictment for bribery. but, what, because santos was buying botox and onlyfans we got to throw him out? >> uh-huh, yeah. so when matt gaetz is your defender, you're in trouble. >> you said you're talking about -- >> no, not you. people -- when one does such a thing. we know youfbl your barrel of -- >> i'm just a devil's advocate. >> the best job in the world. look, let's talk about the politics of this for just a moment. i think this also -- this situation was so bad it literally rose to the level republicans recognize with their existing baggage they could not handle the additional baggage that santos was keeping. >> you're saying what do you have to do in this day and age t

the very precedent that my colleagues are willing to shatter. >> it's interesting that congressman gaetz is suddenly a fan of precedent in the united states congress. >> far too often in washington, d.c., we revert to a failed and often corrupt muscle memory on how to do things. that isn't the way we have run since the mid-'90s. and i'm trying to break the fever and liberate us from those up or down votes. since the mid '90s this country has been governed by either continuing resolution or honorary spending. i'm trying to break the fever dream that is the continuing resolution way of governing. i think the house of representatives has been paralyzed the last several decades as we've refused to pass a budget. >> and there was another interesting moment involving gaetz' klegg, nancy mace of south carolina. "george santos is an ass, who like every other than american, deserves the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law. charges are not a conviction." that is noteworthy and also, to be fair, true, since congresswoman mace believes that she knows the outcome of another

. >> brian: i know gaetz says he will not vote to expel yboebert will not vote to expel you.think you will be expelled today? >> i don't know, if god's will to keep me, i will stay, if his will to leave, i will leave and do so graciously. >> brian: everything about working at citigroup, goldman sachs, have you been doing this your whole life, is this the first time you have been forced to pay for this? >> i can go and rehash everything, but it has been loudly documented on all questions you just asked and short answer is would i not have said certain things, absolutely, i'm an adult and mature enough. to think i built my life over the last couple months is not fair, not true and dishonest. i have a life, people that have been around me my entire life who are appalleded at what the media -- >> brian: you don't think you brought this on yourself? >> in some way, we all bring things on ourselves, i just acknowledged, i bear responsibility, what has been made out of mistakes in the past that i admitted to on national television on this network with tulsi gabbard last december, i

i am not a matt gaetz person. but when i saw that on bowling, it was quite impressive.ost: that is edward in new york. let's take you to october of this year. republican matt gaetz speaking on the floor before the ouster of kevin mccarthy. [video clip] rep. pitts: -- reppo gaetz -- >> the one thing that the white house, house democrats, and many of us on the conservative side would argue is the thing we have in common is kevin mccarthy said something to all of us that he did not really mean and never intended to live up to. i don't think voting against kevin mccarthy's chaos, i think $30 trillion in get is chaos. i think facing a deficit is chaos. not passing single subject spending bills is chaos. i think the fact that we have been governed since the mid-1990's by continuing resolution and omnibus is chaos. the way to liberate ourselves is a series of reforms to this body that i hope would outlast speaker mccarthy's time, my time here, and outlast either of our majorities. reforms that i have heard some of the most conservative members of this body fight for and some o

i am not a matt gaetz person. but when i saw that on bowling, it was quite impressive.ost: that is edward in new york. let's take you to october of this year. republican matt gaetz speaking on the floor before the ouster of kevin mccarthy. [video clip] rep. pitts: -- reppo gaetz -- >> the one thing that the white house, house democrats, and many of us on the conservative side would argue is the thing we have in common is kevin mccarthy said something to all of us that he did not really mean and never intended to live up to. i don't think voting against kevin mccarthy's chaos, i think $30 trillion in get is chaos. i think facing a deficit is chaos. not passing single subject spending bills is chaos. i think the fact that we have been governed since the mid-1990's by continuing resolution and omnibus is chaos. the way to liberate ourselves is a series of reforms to this body that i hope would outlast speaker mccarthy's time, my time here, and outlast either of our majorities. reforms that i have heard some of the most conservative members of this body fight for and some o

congressman matt gaetz leading the group of eight republicans who joined democrats historically votingut as speaker all because of an ethics complaint about him from the following congress. but before mccarthy ended his term early, i went to see him for his final interview as a sitting congress congressman, kind of his exit interview. we asked about a his critics and what is next for hip. but first, we start with reaction to the big stories impacting americans in the 2024 presidential election like the border, like ukraine and-upper. and hunter. >> hunter biden had a press conference on the senate side and then packed up and went home. i think what we have found a rot of things that the -- a lot of things that biden told us before the election -- >> i never discussed a single thing with my son about anything having to do with ukraine. i've never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings. i have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their wiz. -- business. >> we now are finding vice president biden used a pseudonym e-mail with hi

. >> it is interesting that congressman gaetz is suddenly a fan of precedence. >> we fail to a muscle memory on how to do things >> that is not the way we have run since the middle '90s. i am trying to break the fever and liberate us from the other votes. >> here is why i want to break the fever. since the mid'90s continued resolution. >> what i am trying to do is break the fever dream that is the continuing resolution way of governing. >> i think the house of representatives have been paralyzed for the last several decades as we refuse to pass a budget. >> there was another interesting moment involving gaetz' colleague. she tweets this. george santos is an ass who like every other american gets the presumption of innocence until found guilty. charges are not a conviction. that is noteworthy and to be fair, true, since she believes that she knows the outcome of another case, one involving hunter bidden and joe biden with or without charges there. -- hunter biden and joe biden. >> the american people will decide if joe biden is corrupt and president. this time it is obvious how this en

he's talking about when he sees matt gaetz, he avoids them. it does not want to talk to him. these are people who are supposedly, for your point, they are technically in the same party. they are not able to get along out anything, especially because i think they have become so stuck on the idea of politics as the point. politics is not the point of what they do. politics is how they get it done, but they are supposed to be governing. but there are a lot of people who are part of this caucus who don't want to govern. they want to get a lot of attention, they want to get on tv, they want you to know their names. but they don't actually care if anything gets passed. then you have a bunch of her president is who we don't know their names, who are in swing districts, who are like hey, my district is asking, can we get some flood insurance, can we do something about infrastructure? can we do something about actual issues? and they are like aha, no, no we can't. we can't get anything done in this congress. >> because the economy, a really important, point everyone stick around. i lo

gaetz: i regret i rise in opposition to this ndaa because there is a great deal of good in it. only in washington must we bring a bill to the floor so that we are able to militarily confront china while at the same time embracing the policies that make the united states more like china. there is no desire on the part of our great armed services chairman and even the democrats we worked with to have an extension of spying authorities put in this bill when we have already seen those authorities just totally abused. 278,000 violations of the existing law. as the f.b.i. has queered -- queried when the inspector general was reviewing whether or not the administration was complying with existing law, they found we were breaking the law 38 times an hour to extend the authorities for spying that were being violated so people at the f.b.i. can do queries on neighbors, lovers. that doesn't belong in the ndaa and maybe we could stomach if the underlying bill looked more. you feel like a parent who sends a child off to summer camp and come back a monster. this bill came back in far worst s

here matt gaetz stumping for former president donald trump in iowa.ee governor ron desantis also in the hawkeye stage. we will also look at how local republicans are preparing for next month caucus. and see robert f. kennedy, jr. as he met with voters in phoenix. and conversations with political reporter stephen miller and paul on the latest campaign news in new hampshire and iowa. first a look at the response to the colorado supreme court's decision to ban president trump from the nomination. the former president himself released a statement calling the decision "completely flawed." he went on to say that we have full confidence that the u.s. supreme court will rule in our favor and put an end to these un-american lawsuits. next, look at reaction to the colorado supreme court's decision from fellow republican contenders ron desantis, and nikki haley. >> i think the u.s. supreme court will reverse that but here is the larger thing with the left. they are doing all this stuff to basically solidify support in the primary for him coming get him into the

here matt gaetz stumping for former president donald trump in iowa.nor ron desantis also in the hawkeye stage. we will also look at how local republicans are preparing for next month caucus. and see robert f. kennedy, jr. as he met with voters in phoenix. and conversations with political reporter stephen miller and paul on the latest campaign news in new hampshire and iowa. first a look at the response to the colorado supreme court's decision to ban president trump from the nomination. the former president himself released a statement calling the decision "completely flawed." he went on to say that we have full confidence that the u.s. supreme court will rule in our favor and put an end to these un-american lawsuits. next, look at reaction to the colorado supreme court's decision from fellow republican contenders ron desantis, and nikki haley. >> i think the u.s. supreme court will reverse that but here is the larger thing with the left. they are doing all this stuff to basically solidify support in the primary for him coming get him into the general

you get removed gaetz like you mentioned before with the buses in sometimes you have these crazy rampse plan so it really just depends reall as a traveler and the modern da and this ridiculously crowded era, you have to just roll with the punches and it's really not going to stop anytime soon whether it's the holidays or an other time of year. >> on that note i read staff that flew my mind, in 1998 to 1 passports, that number is up almost 50 percent right now, we are traveling like never before aren't we? >> i think the onset of social media and everything else has shown people they kind of made it more mainstream and there is a lot to see out there in the world and people like me who've been traveling internationally for 25 years into it for a living, we knew this, but i think it's starting to get john. even with the pandemic, you can tell by prices in depletion and everything else that people are looking to spend their money, they're going to europe, they'r going to asia and an arctic upgrade i don't know if that will stop anytime soon. >> i don't think so i'm glad. for years we were

obviously there's the matt gaetz's of the world.ut do you think this is the possibility of a new chapter? >> oh, as long as matt gaetz is running around, i guess i wouldn't want to get too optimistic about how well the house will function. republicans still have incredibly tight margins. we have a number of exceptionally colorful members that don't really want to get to yes on anything. i wouldn't want to have rose colored glasses on. it's going to continue to be a difficult 118th congress. even given that difficulty, i would say i'm proud of a lot of things we've done, cutting $2 trillion in spending over the next four years, reform, energy siting, and welfare reform. there's more to come in the next year. >> if republicans lose the santos seat, will it still have been worth it to get rid of him? >> i think when you're dealing with these sacred constitutional duties, when you're trying to decide what is right and what is wrong, it's best not to have too much political calculation in your mind. either guilty -- either a guy is guilt

congressman matt gaetz was in ohio giving a speech at the strongsville gop christmas party, where heved quite an honor there. >> let's go get 'em, thank you all so much. >> matt gaetz, we have an award for you. my name is mike goode with the strongsville gop. the 2023 strongsville gop board. >> thank you so much. >> congratulations for your dedica dedication, the award for allegedly paying for underage girls to have sex -- >> thank you all so much. >> jimmy: he's happy he got it. an award is an award! that guy is a pranktivist named michael picard. he calls himself the professional douche. well done michael! heroes really do come in all shapes and sizes. christmas is less than two weeks away. this is that magical time of year when the right wingnuts come out of the woodwork to fight the many imaginary "wars on christmas." this year they've got a new made-up reason to be outraged. >> gay nutcracker, complete with a rainbow head, a trans flag. >> a gay nutcracker? it doesn't make sense. you have to ask yourself, why do they keep pushing this? >> they're going after the innocence of our

it's also worth noting that matt gaetz, who also stood by desantis when all of that legislation for marijuana was going through, he has now also distanced himself and is supporting donald trump in 2024. >> randi kaye, thank you so much. >>> up next, a live report on the e volcano inin iceland.. we'll bebe right back. >>> when we left you last night, video began pouring in from a vo volcanic eruption in iceland. toxic gases could threaten the cap capital. frederick pleitgen joins us now. what is the latest where you are, fred? >> reporter: the authorities are saying that the lava flow diminished, but it's an absolutely massive lava flow that could fill an olympic-size pool in a matter of seconds. it's an eruption that is massive. it started around 10:00 p.m. local time last night when a massive fissure opened up. it's 2.2 miles long. it was just spewing magma hundreds of feed into the air. that lasted the better part of the day. authorities are saying things have calmed down. that magma is still being volted i into the air. the lava flow is still going on. you mentioned the toxic gases. that's

. >> when you hear the name matt gaetz what word comes to mind?ok, i think history will show who matt gaetz really is. >> will you support a primary challenge against him and the others who went against you in 2024? >> i'm not focused on that. >> you're not ruling it out. >> look, we have too many challenges. and you know what? that doesn't determine the future. >> reporter: of course kevin mccarthy does have a focus these days on the prospects of another florida resident. >> will donald trump be the nominee? >> yes. in the republican party, yes. and if biden stays as the nominee for the democrats, i believe donald trump will win. i believe that republicans will gain more seats in the house and republicans will win the senate. >> can he count on your support? >> yes. >> that's an endorsement? >> i will support the president -- i will support president trump. >> would you be willing to serve in a trump cabinet? >> in the right position. look, if i'm the best person for the job, yes. look, i worked with president trump on a lot of policies. we worke

again, we're spending a heck of a lot of -- stuart: that's matt gaetz in th- >> i am hesitant to makehing that i'm aware of having existing in our arsenal of assets. >> reporter: you heard, stu, matt gaetz not going so far as he's seen proof, but he clearly has seen of what a retire tired military commander saw who testified earlier this summer. >> saw a small white object with a longitudinal ax a sis pointing north-south and moving very abruptly over the water like a ping-pong ball. there were no row rotors, no reporter watch or any sign of any control services like wings. -- surfaces like wig withs. >> reporter: what could be unidentified aerial phenomenon like china or russia. east way, they're skeptical we'll ever know the whole truth. and bertrand has an amendment that would force the cia to declassify documents. we'll see where that goes, if anywhere. stu? stuart: thanks, griff. see you later. [laughter] can't take the smile off my face. [laughter] actor bill shatner blaming, quote, stupid human beings for climate change. that's pretty strong stuff, ash. what else did he have to

here's matt gaetz stumping for former president donald trump in iowa. ron desantis with thomas matthew also in the hawkeye state. we will take a look at how local republicans in iowa are preparing for next month's caucus as the independent candidate robert s kennedy junior met with voters in phoenix. conversations with political reporters on the latest campaign news in new hampshire and iowa. but first, a look at the response of the colorado supreme court's decision to bar former president donald trump on the state ballot for the 2024 nomination. the president himself released a statement, calling the decision completely fall -- flawed. he went on to say we have full confidence the u.s. supreme court will rule in our favor and put an end to these un-american lawsuits. next, a look at reaction from the colorado supreme court's decision from ron desantis, vivek ramaswamy and nikki haley. u.s. supreme court will reverse that but here is the larger thing with the left. they are doing all this stuff to basically solidify support in the primary for him coming

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that's what helped matt gaetz. there were so few votes to be lost that he could get a couple of people and hold leverage over the speaker, or as we all remember, change the speaker. that is also one of the raw pieces of political math that form the reason why republicans were holding back on this move they finally made today. but george santos elis and misconduct and now alleged crimes snowballed into something that the republican party clearly wanted to publicly break away from before this coming election next november. that's when santos was already slated to leave congress anyway. >> santos confessed he had never worked directly for goldman sachs and citigroup. >> what was going on inside you? >> look, greg, here's the deal. i would have never gotten the nomination from nassau county gop if i had not concluded college. >> the republican congressman accused of scamming a disabled veteran who was trying to raise money for his dying dog's cancer treatment. >> saying that his mother was jewish and his grandparents e

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the other thing i have to say is about votes is now do gaetz, and then do menendez. take it the other way because i think it's actually a good first app to poach out of the house. >> or is it a dangerous one? because one of the reasons is that on both sides of the aisle we are concerned about the president. we could all say, go for menendez next, go for gaetz, but what if suddenly donald trump is president? and he is saying to republicans in congress, get this person out because i do not like them. get that person out because i do not like what they said last tuesday. how concerned are you about that? >> so listen. >> oh. >> no, here's the thing about this. this is the lowest possible ethical bar. and you still have to celebrate the fact that congress somehow stumbled its way over its. even if with all the kinds of caveats and provisions, there is no guarantee. and we have actually seen the opposite of the scenario that you just laid out. people have been given leniency and they sensation. the way before this and so on. they probably have, right now, not too much enf

mccarthy is now directly engaging matt gaetz. >> the only time that we lost the conservative agenda was when kevin mccarthy went behind the republican conference. >> the office of speaker of the house of the united states house of representatives is hereby declared vacant. >> vacant. if past is prologue, than kevin mccarthy's very recent past shows you both where the republican party is headed, and, many people think, potentially into a wall if it has no adjustment process for what remains a very unpopular and indicted former president. but how did we get here? well, mccarthy used to sound much more like a standard issue republican. the 2000 republican national convention, bush versus gore, he was actually chair of the young republicans national federation. >> welcome, kevin mccarthy. >> ladies and gentlemen, i have an important announcement. al gore did not invent the internet. but the young republicans and why roc.com revolutionized it. we believe in freedom. we believe an opportunity. we believe in the free market. we believe in taking responsibility for our own future. we believe in

gaetz: thank you all so much. thank you for being here. you have met my wife, ginger. have a seat.p that she is available for booking january 20, 2025, when donald trump is triumphantly restored as the 47th president of the united states. it's great to be here. it is great to be out of washington dc. i don't know if any of you have challenges with your coworkers sometimes, but i've had a few lately. i've got one that wants to throw hamas pep rallies in the capitol building. another when he does not want to turn in his homework he pulls the fire alarm. i saw the senate judiciary midi room was trending today on social media, and don't click on it if you have not already. it is not what you think, something far worse. it seems crazy stuff is always going on in that crazy town. it is great to be in america's heartland. usually this time of year it is mostly folks from iowa going to florida, not the other way around. we call you all snowbirds when you come down to florida with your big tent sweatshirts on. you go walk on the beach in like 50 degree weather and you get in the water, whic

caller: i don't understand why matt gaetz is still there when he was charged. for sex trafficking minors with his friend down there. i'm not sure any of this will solve the problem but i believe he should be expelled. we should look to people like jimmy and rosalynn carter when were looking for integrity. host: michael gus defended the report yesterday. [video clip] >> 37 subpoenas, they issued a 56 page investigation report. these are the exhibits they attach to those reports. the 50 plus page report goes into great detail. it paints a picture of the fraud committed by santos. in many cases, attract the allegations for which mr. santos has been indicted. mr. speaker, if you look at the language of the report it says this, the investigative says they found inconsistencies in his finances. he tried to fraudulently exploit every aspect of his house candidacy. he blatantly stole from his campaign and he deceived donors into providing what they thought to be donations to his campaign but they were payments for his own benefit. he reported fictitious loans to his po

report a matt gaetz response had along with the mig and -- ignited a firestorm. >> it's a context decisionr testimny today? >> reporter: president liz magill resigned. evaluate kobe attended the hearing. >> what it exposes is what people have been saying for a while is that there is a sense of moral ambivalence when it comes to anti-semitism. >> reporter: following lz magill's were assisted brigid's nation, elise stefanik wrote one down, two to go, michael roth is president of wesley university. >> i hope they don't lose their job, because then they would be subject to the outside forces, the republican congressman on the one hand, but also these biw their weight around, and that's not helpful for the long range of. reporter matt before liz magill's resignation, one donor threatened to pull a $100 million donation, and a harvard alum says that they are missing out on $1 billion in terminated donations in light of the controversy. harvard's president has apologized for her testimony, norah. >> norah: nikole killion, thank you. now to some breaking news from new york city, first responders a

matt gaetz came on this program to share his side of the story. >> how much did you see of him coming at you? >> well, mike rogers and i have w worked together for six years on intense issues. it's not the first time we frustrated one another or worked together. as a matter of fact, it was not a remarkably youunique incident. there are times we do get into heated arguments. the different is this time it was caught on camera. >> a little trivia, years before he was my cnn guest he was a radio caller to my sirius xm program using the alias matt from florida, true story. >>> i broke bread with admiral mcraven when he came on the to discuss his book "the wisdom of the bull frog: leadership simple but not easy." >> remember first and foremost and navy s.e.a.l.s, we are navy frogmen from our world war ii frogmen roots, so when you're the senior frog man, you are the bull frog. >> do you get anything more than bragging rights? i imagine you never have to buy a beer for yourself if everyone know yos u ooher the frogman. >> i think the hard part is when you're the bullfrog, you have to buy all

>> i'm not a big fan of matt gaetz. i think he has huge ethical issues. not. i just have a tendency to point out -- the bible says don't point out the speck in your neighbor's eye when you have a plank in yours. he has a big plank in his. >> my kids watched you on twitter or x with the almost fight. they said, dad, you have to ask him about that. does he have a different perspective on that a month later? >> you know, i'm not a big fan of bullies. i grew up with a speech impediment and i had an issue with my leg. i could not argue or run. i had to learn how to fight. i have a disdain for bully. sean bro'brien is a bully. i called him out on it. when the time you stand up to bullies, they back down. from t in this case, that's what happened. i understand not everybody can do that to stand up for themselves. if you don't stand up to bullies at some point, they will continue to get more aggressive until they hurt somebody. i want to put him in his place. >> senator mullin, we appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> thank you, guys. >> you bet. >> i

and that we heard from other colleagues of yours, including matt gaetz, who said that this would be a bad precedent, that now is a bad precedent because until today, the only members of congress who were expelled were actually convicted of a crime, which george santos is not or participated in the civil war. >> george santos did a lot of things that were illegal. and he will face that jury a at some point in time. he did face theics committee. he was given due process. he didn't take advantage of it. he stalled. he did his best not to provide information and provided answers that were vague and weren't helpful to his own defense. i didn't vote last tomb to expelt him. this time i did because i think that he had due process, didn't take advantage of it at some point, we can't wait on the criminal justice system. when you have a two-year term, and he was indicted months ago and won't face trial on those criminal charges until some time in the middle of next year, congress just cant wait that long to make a decision. >> mike johnson voted, which is unto vote, he voted against expulsion.

respond by sending another one hundred $50 billion to ukraine and launching an investigation into matt gaetzrie taylor greene. a lot of people feel like this. what the heck are your priorities. pete: he was a reliable vote for republicans. she's not running for reelection. it was the democrats that brought it forward but ultimately it was a lot of republican votes that voted to expel him. he was formerly known as the rebels billion drag queen. he's a joker. rachel: they injected a brazilian drag green from the white house is the headline. is a joke. pete: the point is the process. is not convicted of anything. he is only -- if we are going to go down, this is the path anyone accused, indictments brought against, let's get going, got a lot to go. pete: a man who brought since to this issue on the view, a deadly combination here, senator john fetterman, democrat from pennsylvania is talking about somebody else. watch. >> we have a colleague in the senate that actually did much more sinister and serious kinds of things, senator menand as. he needs to go and if you are going to expel santos, how

two months ago the historic vote pushing him out of speakership when he led by matt gaetz and voted outother republicans along with democrats pushing him out as the first speaker ever to lose his position at the hands of his colleagues now announcing that he won't even serve for the rest of his two-year term that would have expired at the end of 2025 saying in this new article that he wrote for "the wall street journal" that his time was up. he writes it is in this spirit that i have decided to depart the house in the endthe year to serve america in new ways. i know my work is only getting started. he goes on to say i will continue to recruit our country's best and brightest to run for elected office and the republican party's expanded every day and i am committed to lending my experience to support the next generation of leaders. he doesn't specify exactly when he intends to do next, but he details what his accomplishments were in office and successful efforts to take back the house republican majority and john, make no mistake about it. this is a member who was at the peak of his powe

kevin mccarthy wanted to be speaker by any means necessary and he gave matt gaetz and the far right republican to get into power. when you have a speaker of the house working to keep his job and not for the american people, this is what happens. it is really unfortunate. >> stephen: i want to ask about your home state. florida gets a bad rap. do you think it is deserved or would you like to set the record straight about florida man? >> i am proud to be a florida man. we have a beautiful state. we are a beautiful state. i want people to know that florida is a progressive state in terms of policy. in the last few election cycles, over 60% of floridians have said yes to medical marijuana, a $15 minimum wage, voting rights to people with felonies. we have a problem right now with the difference between policy and politics and that is why -- >> stephen: and implementation. allowing people giving the vote back to people who have served their sentences, roadblocks were thrown in front of that where you had to pay fees or something like that. >> a poll tax. >> stephen: how do you square your vision of

that's him arriving for the fund-raiser with congressman matt gaetz, who as a state lawmaker in 2014,roduced legislation that became florida's first marijuana law. attorneys say he never discussed marijuana legislation with desantis. also at the party, halsey bashirs. his tree farm joined to become tree leaf, a top medical marijuana producer. all three of them have ties to florida's billion-dollar marijuana industry. >> it's an honor to be here. thank you for your support. >> reporter: all of them, a united force in raising money for desantis. >> one of the things that impressed me about ron is that he pushes against the grain. >> reporter: desantis would soon play a key role in florida's so-called green rush, which gave rise to a billion dollar industry. >> the reason why ron desantis became governor of florida is because of a little plant called cannabis. >> reporter: that's a one-time associate of rudy giuliani and donald trump. in may of 2018, when ron desantis' campaign for governor was in trouble, he says desantis sought him out. you met him at the trump hotel. >> i met him at t

candidates that have a deeper and more thoughtful platform than these guys and you have you know the matt gaetz' of the world running around trying to cause chaos and get on tv. it's really hard to negotiate with people who don't have serious policy objectives. >> kristen, are the republicans in the house nihilists? >> this takes two to tango. this is what happens when you get ready divided government in really polarized times. if the house had been on vacation. if they had been taking no votes, i would be more sympathetic to this argument. but they've been voting on quite a lot. it just goes into either chuck schumer's woodchiper, the senate, where dreams go to die, or it's never going to have any realistic chance of passing joe biden's desk. so with divided government comes gridlock. so for sure, i will not say that the republican caucus is say a picture of unity. if it feels like the votes have been just for speaker of the house. >> i was going to say. >> but this is not just. >> you had republicans controlling the house. democrats controlling the senate just like now and in the first sessio

maybe that is why, they trust bill gates. 23% call gaetz on trustworthy. david: that's interesting.now this. do-nothing congress could be the slogan for 2023 as lawmakers approved an astonishing low 27 bills. chad -- a 16, a lot of people think congress is too much but what they do in 2023? >> reporter: they finish their with microscopic 19% approval rating according to a recent fox news paul. you mentioned the 27 bills which became law, 22 as of a few days ago. bipartisan lawmakers are disappointed. >> history proves a sometimes it takes us months, even years, to get nothing done. >> two government shutdown plus a tangle with the debt ceiling, the house also censured three democrats for their conduct, and jamaal bowman of new york for pulling a false fire alarm. there has been some republicans squandering the majority in the house. >> one thing, i want my republican colleagues to give me one thing, one, that i can go campaign on and say we did. one! anybody sitting in a complex come to the floor and explain to me one material, meaningful significant thing the republican majority ha

i thought the funniest best line of the day is when matt gaetz stood and said, i rise not in defense of george santos, whoever he is. like, nobody wants to try to defend him on the merits. to your question of the bigger picture, there is a bigger picture question here. it's one of due process, again, arguing process, and the idea of whether the voters in his new york district ought to ultimately be the ones to throw him out. i'm convinced they would. or should it be the congress? what kind of precedent are we setting if someone who hasn't been convicted because the two you reference since the civil war were both convicted in a criminal process. so, do we really want to open the door now to say, even without a conviction, you're out? >> i think that's a fair question. it's an important question. you're right, michael, that's what the republicans who are defending him, the republicans are defending him on those grounds. can we talk about the debate last night, though, between ron desantis and -- >> please. >> -- and gavin newsom? you had a prediction. tell people your prediction. i kno

gaetz: let's speak to due process. mr. santos hasn't been convicted of anything but we haven't even moved to expel the people who have. mr. bowman pled guilty to a misdemeanor to his fire alarm stunt weeks ago. while they're marching to throw george santos out of congress, they take no action to someone who pled guilty to a crime? what's that about. then there's the talk he could have come and testified before the ethics committee and he didn't and he had his due process but belies the fact he faced a trial and had mr. santos testified before the ethics committee, an argument could have been made he waived any of his rights he would have had at trial any american would enjoy so it was a procedural double bind that shouldn't be held against mr. santos as some sort of adverse interference. let's also talk about this precedent p. the fact pattern as to mr. santos is remarkably similar to the fact pattern of former representative duncan hunter. duncan hunter used campaign money on girlfriends and trips and home improvements an

but trump supporters like congressman matt gaetz are not taking that lead for granted. >> so what i need from all of you at the tip of the sphere, at the front line of this fight, with the first most dispositive voice in this upcoming caucus contest, go out there, recruit ten captains that can recruit ten other people to commit to show up in caucus. my only worry is low turnout. >> all right, here to talk more about the political jockeying in iowa, des moines bureau chief for the gazette, aaron murphy. all right, aaron, great to see you. donald trump, you know, hasn't had to do a whole lot, you know. he's there now, but he has a whole lot of support compared to the others in the race. how do you explain this? >> it really hasn't wavered. the people who support the former president have been with him through thick and thin over not just this year but past years, and so the people who have found their way to donald trump's camp over the years have stayed there, so when we get to a campaign like this year where he's facing new political challengers, that doesn't change. when you look at the