one is notion of civilization jihad, which is a favorite of frank gaffney.e has come to have a lot of influence in washington. hearts --gularly harps on this notion of the muslim brotherhood. he says they have infiltrated the government at the highest levels including the white house and department of justice and state department. what is happening is you have seemingly nice muslims who have decided to play along with the united states and constitution and infiltrate the nation. once they are in great positions of power, we will have the horrific violent islamic state presumably they are trying to implement, and they are trying to do this in a stealth way instead of overtly violent way. this was behind the center with ted cruz and others to label the muslim brotherhood a terrorist organization and any group they can tie to the muslim aotherhood, therefore, it is terrorist organization. civil liberty groups and political groups and other who are trying to shape policy and discourse when it comes to bigotry and racism. the third tactic i've been tracking is th

matt: can you talk about how you see imports into minnesota with ideas, like gaffney? jaylani: one of the interesting things is minnesota -- minnesota is not really -- trying to get the right words out there and minnesota is a good state. >> [laughter] jaylani: let's say that. it is unique. it has wonderful people here. however -- >> [laughter] jaylani: i think the muslim community in minnesota has become a target for all the islamophobia network. in fact there was a blogger, harassedwho came and our mosque a couple of weeks ago pier 1 of those bloggers -- weeks ago. one of those bloggers made a fake twitter account and then made a threat himself from the twitter account and raise money online -- raised money online. all the islamophobia networks are using this community as a scapegoat and as an example to launch their efforts elsewhere. it is a success in minnesota that they are not fighting. the success of the muslim community, the success that we have the first congressman, keith ellison and now ilhan omar. it is becoming a problem. all of the talking points have no

gaffney, if you could comment t on what he is saying?we know that c countries that actually have universal access also have higher costs. these two things go hand-in-hand. the united states has teterrible access and also has overall costs that are double those of her income nations. the notion the trade-off is false. that is made clear as soon as you look across national borders. we can, inin fact, we need to achieve universal coverage for that will also allow us to control costs moving forward. juan: how would those costs be controlled moving forward? >> so universal health care system like single-payer gives you unique ways of controlling costs. for instance, in the housee bill that was go forward by lead spsponsor pramamila jayapal recently, that bill would basisically create a universal oneth care syststem in whichch plan covered everyone. what we know about those sorts of plans as they are far more effificient in terms o of the administration overhrhead. traditional medicare, traditional medicare program has a 2% overhead meaning tw

gaffney: it isn't -- guest: it is an attempt to interfere, so things like tampering with witnesses, threatening a juror, taking steps to thwart or make it difficult for the criminal justice process to function and to do that, on purpose. wantdea is we do not people to be able to bully and flout the criminal justice system because he wanted to function for the generic public for their safety and for the integrity of the entire process. the definition reads, an act that corrupts by threat or by force or by any threatening letter or communications, influences, obstructs, or impedes the administration of justice. when you look at those words, what acts could be considered obstruction of justice? guest: it is very broadly worded. i would just read from the now attorney general bill barr memorandum. prohibit,n is to destroying, altering, or falsifying evidence, and any kind of impairment of the integrity of the decision-maker. his focus is a little bit on the tree finding process, but obstruction can be at any action that is going to stop or frustrate or undermine that process. a criminalbout investi

gaffney: good morning -- guest: good morning. host: what is the long-term and short-term impact if the border should be close? guest: huge for tens of millions of americans. new mexico is our number three trading partner and number two market for u.s. exports. there is $1.5 billion a day in goods crossing the border. 15,000 trucks a day crossing the border. i have seen them lined up. half a million people cross the border every day legally to work, to shop, to visit family. if the border was shut down it would be devastating for border communities. like laredo and el paso. but it would affect all of us. mexico is a major source of not only manufactured goods. prices would spike for cars, fresh produce -- we get a lot of it from mexico, particularly avocados, tomatoes cucumbers. , more importantly, for american production and supply chains and nowhere more important than the u.s. auto industry. 25 years of nafta has given us an integrated north american manufacturing platform. there are parts that cost more -- there are auto parts

gaffney: good morning -- guest: good morning. host: what is the long-term and short-term impact if the border should be close? guest: huge for tens of millions of americans. new mexico is our number three trading partner and number two market for u.s. exports. there is $1.5 billion a day in goods crossing the border.

. >> hello, i am hank gaffney. i spent 13 years on nato nuclear weapons and then another 13 years of dialogue with the russians. what is the prospect of real dialogue with the russians? i keep hearing rumors that the administration is not going to renew new start. is that true? and what are the prospects for actual dialogue with the russians? david: that is an excellent question. the prospect for dialogue, we are open to dialogue with the russians. whether a new start is renewed or not renewed is an issue that has not been decided. it is one of a many number of issues that we are looking at. in the broader context of where we going with the arms-control dialogue with russia. russia, as you know, has for years been in violation of the inf treaty. that says something about russian behavior. russia has been in violation of other treaty commitments, and what does that mean? does russia get to pick and choose what treaties they comply with and which they do not? this is all part and parcel of a broader dialogue that we

adam gaffney, president of the physicians for a national health program and he talked about his supportor medicare for all type program and here is what he said. [video clip] >> the concept for medicare for all is not an especially complicated one. in the name itself, it is medicare, universal program that is currently for seniors that we would apply for all, meaning everyone in the nation, but a key additional point i would make is we think of this as improved medicare for all, this is a program that would expand medicare to everyone in the country and make it a much , making benefits comprehensive including things like dental care that medicare does not currently cover as well as improving medicare by eliminating cost barriers to care, things like co-pays and deductibles. there is now, as you mentioned, a bill in both the house and the senate that are medicare for all bills that would create a system for the united states. this is referred to as single-payer and it is essentially a universal health care system that would provide a comprehensive benefits without barriers of care to the