steve: having been a receptionist in gaithersburg many years ago -- ms. mcmahon: i actually -- not to cut you off, i was a receptionist in washington. at the law firm of covington and burling. that was my first job out of college. and later, they trained me as a paralegal in the probate division. steve: so do you feel like you have come full circle? ms. mcmahon: yes. but washington is so different then when i was here. it has grown so much. there was no metro when i was here before. and living out in gaithersburg, it was a commute every day in and out of the city, which is pretty tough. but it was really fun and exciting, but incredibly challenging, you know, to be here and have the responsibility of an agency which the president has said can have one of the most significant impacts on the growth of the economy. when he talked to me about taking this position -- i was in his office at trump tower. and just as i was leaving, he looked at me and walked me to the door, and he said, i just have one request. i said yes. he said do a good job. i told him i was

sergeant who defended democracy, came out this past year, he was on c-span's booktv at the 2024 gaithersburgook festival, you can see him talking about his experience. c-span.org for that. we're talking about potential pardons for those convicted of crimes related to january 6, 2021.donald trump was asked about that and i meet the press interview last month. this is what he said at the time. [video clip] >> you promise to pardon those to attack the capitol on january 6. are you still looking at that? fmr. pres. trump: we are looking at it now, most likely. those people have suffered long and hard. there may be some exceptions. we will have to look. if somebody was radical or crazy, there might be some people from antifa there. you do not know, because those same -- those people seem to be in good shape. you know who scaffold man was? he stood on the scaffold telling people what to do, and nothing ever happened to him. what about reyes? strange what he was saying, where is he in what happened to him? people did very little. they arrested an old woman because she -- i don't think she did anyth