again, the brian legacy th community dictates idea and e gal tearian. is egalitarian. there's no elitism about it. so, when you're really at heart, very anti-elitist, i thinkthat ultimately it is going to affect intellectual institutions and educational institutions. someone has to know more an someone else in order to teach. >> i think we have to conclude the session because i think we're all instructed to conclude these sessions a little bit before time so that people can move in and out. believe. well, maybe we have a little bit more time. if we've got anymore questions? my watch might be a little fast. >> there's a lot of creationists out there in my state, i think they're in a large majority. do you see something like this trial coming about nowadays? >> well, i think so. and i'm not a legal scholar and one of the nuances of the legislation that's popping up all over the place. kansas recently was trying to get it out of its state test, get evolution out. and these kinds of issues. so, there is a lot of nuances in the legislation that comes up. and a lot of the pr