>> guest: battle star galactica. he included mormon theology in the show, but in ways that most americans wouldn't pick up on. >> host: is there something in particular? >> guest: one of the planets they go to is named after a place that teaches to mormon theology and the tribes in a variety of those kind of elements figurine. >> host: i think we've become several things. one, cautious, respect will, politically correct when we talk about these things. but it's actually hard to discern -- i didn't cover the election, but i try to read about the religious components of it. it's hard to discern how people are motivated how they see someone's religion because they're simultaneously talk in the public sphere, but also more hesitant about how we talk. i think it was complicated. in the irish catholic chapter that is interesting you focus on irish catholic in particular. i didn't know if there was some reason why you try to keep it specific to irish catholic and you didn't talk so much about contemporary cat. you and the c