it is the lowest score ever reported for either party by gallun. >> when you shut down the government for two weeks in order to obtain nothing people don't like it. it hurts the republican brand. it's no surprise that establishment republicans are sounding the alarm saying the tea party groups tactics are a tad extreme. >> you cannot govern from one part of one-half of congress. the only out is for these people to realize they are in a suicide caucus. >> jon: they are not in a suicide caucus. i know that because i founded suicide caucus in 1983. that's right. it was my jazz fusion band. [ laughter ] >> suicide caucus. and i will have you know the magazine rolling stone called us also performing. [ laughter ] i apparently had it urinate during that set. [laughter] that gets us to the dilemma that the republican elite are facing. they want to let the tea party know that they are not allowed to call the shots. they sure were excited a few years back when the tea party showed up. >> the big split between the establishment and the new people, the tea party folks is vastly exaggerated. i th

it is the lowest score ever reported for either party by gallun. >> when you shut