gallup refused. axelrod and gallup with at loggerheads. a few weeks later the justice department moved to intervene in the lawsuit. as a plaintiff against gallup and they added a charge they misled the fema. >> sean: can we trust them i am? >> gallup is now conducting the poll under the shadow of a huge lawsuit by the federal government with criminal implications. >> sean: you can't trust them? >> i can't say that. they are reputable polling company but they are under enormous pressure. >> sean: a lot of the polls, what do you think. the polls show that obama is doing well. he is up in this poll but very close. it's going to come down to what, pief or six states at the end of the day. let's take a look back. july of 1988, you have michael dukakis ahead of bush. 55-38, 17-point lead. you got 1980, carter over reagan, this is september 1980, four-point lead and went higher than that after that. how do you interpret the polls now. the single most optimistic person in terms of romney winning this of anybody i know, why? >> i'm one of the only

departmeet sued the gallup polling company. lawsuit filed by michael lindley. lindley filed suit right after he was fired from gallup. lindley ccaims gallup had overbilled vvrioussfederal agenciis for federal offices such as the u.s. mint, passport agency, energy and others spent tenss of millions of dollars on single-source, no-bid polling contracts is a conversation for another day. back to not unusual. but joining one that is over three years old without ew developments is rather oddd why did doj join at this time? connider this. on august 17th, ust days monthly unemployment report based on interviews of 30,000 adultss the data shows a steep rise in the august jjbless rate. gallup implied in its analysis thattif the august unemployment rate annnunced by the bureau of labor statistics doesn't have a "substantial" increase then sommone is fiddling with the numbers. is the doj being used to silence medda organizations that hold the obama administration accountable? we may soon know more. the august unemmloyment numbers will bee

gallup gallup gallup. >> i don't believe that i think you are reading it wrong.hink you are reading that gallup poll wrong. i don't have that gallup poll here. >> 40% of catholics belief that abortion is morally acceptable, bill. the reality is the laws that dictate of the pope and vatican change. used to say you couldn't eat meat on friday they changed that rule. >> bill: here is the abortion poll right here. abortion practicing catholics morally acceptable 25%. morally wrong 75%. that's the poll, juan. all right? so let's get it straight. now, do you think sandra fluke is an extremist, mary katharine? >> i think most of what she pitches is a little extreme. she was up on the stage talking about how everyone should pay for everyone else's birth control. which. >> bill: so you think. >> the agencies from her. >> bill: wait, wait. you guys -- you have got to answer my questions. you think she is an extremist, correct, mary katharine. >> i think she is outside. yes. >> bill: do you think the president of planned parenthood is extremist as well. >> outside the mains

he tweeted that a gallup poll was fraud in the way it had been conducted. gallup suggested axlerod was trying to work the wrap and the charge was politically motivated. the doj jumps into a years' old lawsuit against gallup on something that is unrelated. chris wilson, the president of the texas republican party. chris, i want to start with you. how often is it people who don't like poll numbers from somewhere as important as the presidential campaign reach out and publicly denigrate a poll on its methodology and the what it was conducted. >> i don't think public denegration of the poll is unusual. the problem here is the way they went about doing it. they contacted guam and asked them to change their methodology and when they didn't the doj joins this lawsuit. it shows you how quickly obama is ready to jump to chicago-style politics. gallup is one of the most trusted organizations in america and they are part of the media. what obama is trying to do is influence the media by using the department of justice. that's frightening for all of us. shannon: the "d

gallup had obama up by one point. since gallup started doing this, under f.d.r., the man leading the gallup poll at labor day has led all but three times. dewey led truman in 1938 and al ger led. every other time, the leader at this point, in early september, has won. when we come back, what's better for the clintons? an obama win or a loss? would hillary have a better shot in 2016 running to replace obama or to oust romney? be right back. >> president obama appointed several members of his cabinet even though they supported hillary in the primary. heck, he even appointed hillary. chris: that, of course, was bill clinton working his magic wednesday night. many pros tell you if hillary wants to be standing on that stage accepting the nomination four years from now, she can have it. but there's been disagreement about whether getting elected president would be harder or easier for hillary clinton if president obama wins a second term. if he win this is time, americans might follow the pendulum rule and want a republican

wait until you hear what he said the gallup.t he said to gallup employees, that will be new at 10. back to nicole, please. intel shares, now, they're way down in early going, tell me why. >> they are, down over 3 prers and obviously weighing on the dow jones industrial average and talking so much about winners and intel is not one of them. they're cutting the revenue outlook and going forward and talking about a tough macroeconomic environment and down 3%. they're not the number one loser in the dow, that's kraft. kraft came out with guidance for 2013 and looking at the north american business and the cash flow, and a disappointment. so, down 4 1/2%. >> by the way, nicole, i've seen amazon cross at 2.55 now, did you say earlier that somebody wanted-- expect it had to go to 2.81? >> i did and i actually got another analyst, lazard, who is at 300 price target. lazard at a 300 price target. stuart: a bidding war. time is money, 30 seconds worth of what else, what we're watching for you today. eva longoria, the democrats answer to c

they said there are some problems with gallup's numbers and he asked gallup, why don't you come overmethodology. gallup internal e-mail now showed that they regard that had as intimidation. they did not go to talk to him about their methodology. they just continued to do what they did. right now, according to gallup, mr. obama is lead manage romney. however that, poll is a couple days old. the very latest poll out this morning is from the "washington post" and it's of likely voters. now according to the "washington post," barak obama 49, mitt romney, 48. whatever bounce he had, according to the "washington post" with these likely voters, has disappeared. >> gretchen: that's the important terminology. you should always be looking at the polls of likely voters because these are the people who are actually going to go to the polls and exercise their right to vote. let's listen to what rush limbaugh had to say about all of this yesterday. >> my question is that why is obama still campaigning? can somebody explain that to me? what do you mean? because everywhere i look, this election is o

. >> eric: talk about gallup.lup has a poll out today saying that president obama has a five-point lead over mitt romney. a big change from a couple of weeks ago, couple of months what is going on there? >> kimberly: you just have to take a look at it, take a moment, because it does raise the question as you recall back in april, jay carney sent out a tweet essentially criticizing gallup and their methodology. and at that point, romney was five points ahead. now you see a reversal of unusual fortune in the polling. of course, there was also a lawsuit threatened by the department of justice to investigate gallup. >> bob: keep this in mind. rasmussen who tepid to lean republican also saw a big jump for barack obama. gallup, this is 3,000 surveys so the margin of error is very little. they do a daily tracking poll. the answer is very simply, which you wouldn't buy, the democratic convention did more for barack obama than the republican did for mitt romney. >> dana: i agree. if you think about it, convention bounces f

that line, if this number's correct, this gallup poll, didn't work either. >> very interesting. i mean, that the bounce is so minimal, at least as presently measured. we'll have to keep looking at it in the next few days. i think there are two possibilities, one, the country is polarized, people are set on which way they want to go in this election. there aren't that many genuinely undecided voters, i think, but the second possibility is there's a real opportunity here for president obama and the democrats in this convention to make progress, to essentially get a bounce. if romney didn't get one, if you could get one, we could go into the home stretch of this election with a little separation between the candidates as opposed to a neck and neck race. we'll know in the next couple weeks. >> eugene, what about the fact, and this again is coming from the democrats, the question is not are you better off than four years ago, but are you going to be better off tomorrow and who is best positioned to take you there. is that, perhaps, at the heart of the reaction that we are seeing in t

first controversy between the gallup polling agency and the obama administration campaign. they're being sued for overcharging the government for polling done for some federal agencies. but some say the lawsuit is revenge because gallup has not been that kind to president obama. kind tore mitt romney. here now, kimberly guilfoyle and lis weil. >> any merit? >> this will go nowhere. whistle blower fired by gallup in 2009 suddenly turned around and said they're doing all this wrong. misclaiming files, overcharging the government. 2009, bill. now in 2012, suddenly after those polls came out putting romney ahead, oh, now gallup is finding they want to sue? >> it seems hard to believe that the obama administration would be that petty to use the justice department to punish gallup, a respected polling agency. look, if the whistle blow be has hard data -- >> that's my point. three years don't you think they would have found that? >> bill: i don't know. >> this seems to be ridiculous. this is someone if you investigate the background of michael linley, he is someone who works for t

lindley lindley claims gallup had s - overbilled various federal agencies for olling services.s. mint, passport agenny, energy and others dollars on single-source, no-bid polling contracts is a conversation for another day. back to lindley's lawsuit. doj joining an existing lawsuit is not unusual. but joining one that is over three years old without new developments is rather odd. why did doj join at this time? consider this. on auuust 11th, just days earlier gallup released its monthly unemployment report based on interviews of 30,000 adults. the datt shows aasteep rise in the august jobless rate. gallup implied in its analysis that if the august unemployment rate announced by the bureau of labor statistics doesn't have a "substantial" increaseethen someone is fiddling with the numbers. ii the doj being used to silence media organizatioos that hold the obama administration accountable? we may soon know more. the august unemployment numbers will be released on september 7th. for more on this story visit behind the headlines dot &pnet. and foolow us twitter an facebook. i'm mark

the gallup poll is one doing this for decades and tracks daul daul-- daily on a daily basis. >> a lotfference for the polls, paul, is in the democrat versus republican balance in the sample. in 2008, according to exit polls, there were seven points more democrats in the lelectorae than republicans. in 2010, no difference. in 2004, no difference. so a lot of the difference in these polls depends upon what you assume the electorate will look like. many of the polls with the biggest leads for obama are counting on the 2008, plus 7 democratic ballot. >> paul: a big gap. >> i don't think that's going to happen. it's a big gap. i don't think it's going to happen, never happened before in the last 14 years. >> paul: so do you follow gallop or do you think that the average of the poll, real clear politics average is the right -- which number is the best to look at for people who care on a daily basis. >> i think the best to look at is the average of credible professionally done polls and you've mentioned several right now. if you take a look at the average of the polls and even out some of th

mary katherine, according to a gallup poll last month, mitt romney enjoyed a 24-point advantage among white males nationally. last week reuters/ip sos put it at 20%. is he in danger of losing,

gallup has run afoul of the candidate.s run afoul of the obama justice department. what happens next? bill will take that up with the "a ♪ lou: joining us now from the democratic national convention in charlotte, campaign strategists fox is political analyst, democrat joe to be. good to have you with us. we appreciate you being with us. i know it's a busy night down there. let's start with last night, if i may. i want to get your reaction to the slick willie that is used as an appellation. he was working magic. >> was working a lot of magic. the big thing he has his credibility on the economy. most people remember the recession, turning it around, job growth, balancing the budget, cutting -- you know, producing a surplus. for him to sit there and say, look, i am here to tell you that not me, not any predecessor could have fixed a broken economy that barack obama was giving. that has credibility with a lot of people out there. i think this speech at the market. lou: you have to be heartbroken if you missed my jock talk toni

why would he cite the gallup poll, which i would usually cite the gallup poll if i were a republican candidate because the gallup poll usually is a little more conservative. what's the current gallup poll looking like? >> well, there's the daily gallup tracking poll showing president obama up six points in the points. maybe he wanted to focus on rasmussen. >> maybe rasmussen. john heilemann, you hear a lot of people -- not people inside the romney campaign because they know they're in trouble, and they're focused on it, and i think that's a good sign. but you talk to -- you hear a lot of people on talk radio, and you watch certain cable news channels, and they're screeching about how the polls are rigged. romney's people know they're in big trouble, right? down about ten in ohio. even the fox news poll shows romney losing in a lot of these swing states. they understand they're in trouble. do they believe they've got a chance to turn it around? >> they do and they do. they know they're in trouble and they -- you know, they have tried a little bit to play the polls or bias game in the

media has hit a record low take a look at his recent gallup poll sixty percent of those polled say they have little or no trust in the u.s. media to report the news fully accurately and fairly the survey was conducted between september sixth and september night so why are americans losing the faith well there's this. the individual mandate has been ruled unconstitutional justices have just got it both the centerpiece provision of the obama health care law if in fact that's the final word on the individual mandate there could be a little bit more complicated what do you get from a shutdown reading through this again i we are reading now that the entire law has been held. and other times it seems like the twenty four hour news cycle is producing less than critical headlines i have to get the feeling take a look at this mitt romney has not been in too many too many. decided that something in your state is a quick look at what president obama's been up to our area is sitting down with the pirates making sure he didn't forget to mark the international talk like a pirate you know celery actua

some of the polls, and look at this, nearly two weeks ago just before the republican convention, the gallup poll showing governor romney at 47%, president obama at 46%. this evening, gallup's tracking poll has obama at 49%, romney, 44%, the president there opening a five-point lead, but that lead is still razor thin, and the romney campaign knows it. so tonight we hear something from governor romney. after repeatedly saying he'd repeal obama care, now we learn what parts of the president's law he likes. with 58 days to go now as "your voice, your vote," and abc's david kerley at the white house tonight. >> reporter: it is mitt romney's mantra, repeated nearly daily. >> we're going to get rid of obama care. we're going to stop it on day one. we're going to replace it with something better. >> reporter: so this morning, surprise when it sounded like the republican was changing positions. >> i'm not getting rid of all of health care reform. of course, there are a number of things that i like in health care reform that i'm going to put in place, one is to make sure that those with pre-existing

. >>> according to the latest gallup poll they asked last week, scored a record low with americans. only 38% of americans rated romney's speech as excellent or good. that's the lowest of any speeches gallup tested since bob dole's accepted speech in 1966. 16% rated the romney address as poor or terrible. >>> else where, it has been one week since isaac slammed into the gulf coast, and still tens of thousands are in the dark. while crews have been working around the clock to restore electricity, utilities report more than 100,000 customers are powerless in louisiana, mississippi, and arkansas. in louisiana some low lying areas are still under water. and now a triple-digit forecast could make app already difficult clean-up even more miserable. >>> well, now here's a look at some other stories making news early today in america. california, take a look at these dramatic pictures of what's being called a fire tornado. more than 4,000 acres have burned in the angeles national forest and wildfires like this one are known to create their own wind conditions. a thousand campers and others w

according to gallup, his speech was average at best. if you count just excellent and good reviews, voters put romney in fifth place among every republican nominee in recent history. romney didn't do as well as george w. bush in 2004. in fact, romney's speech got the lowest poll rating since 1996. bob dole got better reviews than romney did. but there's a poll number that really matters to a lot more americans. and this is it. gallup shows democrats are less enthusiastic about voting this november. here comes the red flag. republicans are gaining. 51% are focused on getting barack obama out of the white house. republicans might be feeling a little romney malaise. they might not even like this guy, but, here's the bottom line. the romney campaign could win this election without having to win over voters. let's turn to karen finney tonight. msnbc political analyst and former communications director for the dnc. good to have you with us tonight. 23% down in the audience, what do you make of that? is the country just politically exhausted an

what's the current gallup poll look like? race. maybhe just wd focus on rassmussen. >> you hear a lot of people -- not people inside the romney campaign because they know they're in trouble. they're focused on it. that's aood sign. you hear aotfpl on talk radio and watch certain news channels and they are screeching about how the polls are rigged. romney's people know they are in big trouble. even fox news polls show romney losing in a lot of swing states. they understand they're in trouble. do they believe they' got a >> they do and they do. they know they're in trouble. they have tried a little bit to play the polls in the last couple days. th argue within the mgin of error in ohio. you can be far behind in it the margin of error. gnicantly down in ohio. they're significantly down in the swing states. they know that they -- they think that governor romney ad yesterday they were happy with and they think it was very effective ad. they think they are sharpening his economic message. th know they need tdo that theyhink it's po

now the gallup daily tracking poll shows the president with a five-point lead over governor romney. republicans are ramping up their efforts in wisconsin. >> here in wisconsin, we're not better off under president obama. >> governor romney went to church in massachusetts after hammering home his own economic message. >> if this president's re-elected, you're going to see chronic high unemployment continue for another four years or longer. >> president obama accuses his opponent of fuzzy math. >> governor romney said he wouldn't take a deal with $10 of spending cuts for $1 of revenue increases. and the problem is the math or the arithmetic, as president clinton said, doesn't add up. >> reporter: the race to add up swing states intensifies. ann compton, abc news traveling with the obama campaign in florida. >> the interesting part here, too, the new gallup poll out shows the president nationally has a five-point lead. saying he did get a bounce coming out of the convention in charlotte. really with the romney campaign, looking at carefully, state of ohio. a battleground state. now the

gallup has run afoul of the candidate. but the gallup poll has run afoul of the obama justice department. what happens next? bill will take that up with the "a-team." a-team we have big dreams. one is for a clean, domestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. ♪ lou: joining us now from the democratic national convention in charlotte, campaign strategists fox is political analyst, democrat joe to be. good to have you with us. we appreciate you being with us. i know it's a busy night down there. let's start with last night, if i may. i want to get your reaction to the slick willie that is used as an appellation. he was working magic. >> was working a lot of magic. the bi

. >>> well elsewhere according to the latest gallup poll, republican presidential candidate mitt romney's acceptance speech at the gop convention in tampa last week scored a record low with americans. only 38% of americans surveyed rated romney's speech as excellent or good, the lowest rating of any of the eight speeches gallup has tested since bob dole's gop acceptance speech in 1996. 16% rated the romney address as poor or terrible. >>> it has been a week since isaac slammed into the gulf coast and still, tens of thousands of people are in the dark. while crews have been working around the clock to restore electricity, utilities report more than 40,000 customers are powerless in louisiana. low-lying areas are still under water and now a triple-digit forecast could make an already difficult clean-up even more miserable, unfortunately. >>> here's your first look at other news going on around america. in california dramatic pictures a fire tornado. in the angeles national forest. wildfires are known to create their own wind conditions. 1,000 campers and visitors were evacuated since the fi