i think senator coons, who is a good sure galt, would admit that.t was lacking was something fresh. it's hard to tell what the lead was coming out of a long speech like that. and when that's the case, you know, what you say to people, the rhetoric sort of becomes mushy. and he needs to be clear-cut and to have a sense of freshness, not have a sense of, he's still thinking in terms of the 1990s. >> jen, you can knock the president for, you know, the insults, eighth grade insults and coming up with nicknames and stuff, it's certainly, rightly or wrongly, it sticks in people's minds, and, you know, to david's point, what joe biden said today, you know, if you read it, it's one thing, but it was. it was very long and hard to sort of, you know, take some things away. >> i think that's right. anderson, i agree. you know, i think in some ways today was set up in a way that joe biden couldn't have asked for something better that he was aligned kind of head-to-head with president trump. that's part of his message that he's inevitable. that's never really wor