i'm asking this because you recently wrote an article in the moscow times titled russia's proposal ganda war will backfire and implicit in the title is the accusation of the russian state and russian media of running some sort of deliberate dissent formation competing in your crane. can you explain yourself first of the title wasn't mine the original title that i wrote was called said winding down russia's information war with the old question mark at the end but the words of it and the just behind the article is all mine. to move beyond the title essentially what i suggested in the article was that with the may twenty fifth election in ukraine it's going to be harder and harder for instruments of russian media to police the situation in ukraine as essentially being some sort of right wing ultra white ring fascist too and so my hope was that maybe we can return to some sort of semblance of normal rather than sort of over the top hysterics about what's going on in. speaking of the over the top hysteria certainly it's a matter of perspectives and you know the advances in ukraine may seem t

like to move to and i guess we only have time for one or two questions we mentioned this time provide ganda and i think we russians. believed on their propaganda and it was forced upon us so you know i think we have pretty good experience of. recognizing it but what i think is happening in the west is people essentially leaving in this world when they believe that you know that means they're free and fair and object. if. they simply don't realize when propaganda is being you know offered to them what do you make of that i think that's a perfectly valid point you know it's not just an east west thing increasingly in the united states you know we have segments of media where you have sort of an echo chamber on the right with fox news you have an echo chamber on the left with and this and b c and what i do you know that in educating students is trying to be sort of cognizance of not only where the editorial line in some of these different places lies but not being just you know stopping with that and saying oh ok well this is a fox news so we can't listen to it or this is an assembly scene we

this is a propaganda, a we giling misleading op ganda. we need to live in peace. >> rose: i done think you can eradicate it, i don't think you can. but i think that there needs to be a justice for palestinian, a territory for palestinian and two states. people are worried that the idea of a two state solution is slipping away. >> yes. the world is saying that the two state solution is slipping away, indeed. those who are caught. but who did actually lose, those who killed are the leaders of israel since the '70s and '80s. and then at the madrid conference and also accord. you can go back to all the american administrations and the leaders. a number of them actually tried. they went through-- i actually read the memoirs o of-- carter and they knew what was going on. those who killed the political path is israel. i can say that on air. the palestinian people in a nutshell want to live without occupation. want to live free in an independent state. we have two paths. the first one which is the better one is the peaceful one for the rest of th

when a local tabloid published akram name and photo recently marking him of one of what it calls you ganda's, he lost his job before the day was over. and his family also made clear their position. >> they throw all my things outside and they say this is the proof why we are chasing you out. you should go run for your life, start a new life. you no longer belong to us. we are regretting-- you are a shame. are you a disgrace to our family. >> but he says many of his friends are in even worse shape because unlike him they're hiv positive and afraid they will be outed by their doctors if they seek help or treatment. >> some of them they day within their houses. they just-- because they fear going to the hospital. some of them they-- some may get lucky and they heal, some they die. >> even before the law passed hiv rates among gay men in uganda's capitol city were already three times higher than other men. now that divide is expected to grow. >> but those who voted for the law like members of parliament dr. michael-- say that gays and lesbians can still receive treatment like anyone else. patien