catholics run the gannett of american life, they are some of the poorest immigrants and mostly recent immigrants, as well as some of the most powerful people in the country. >> in terms of research, teaching this to your students as well, anything stand out? any particular stories, individuals, or things you have come across that surprised you or intrigued you? >> when you teach this material to students, i have been a dean for 10 years. some of the figures students don't expect, there is dorothy day, a great catholic radical of the mid-20th century. a pacifist, terry strongly antiabortion, very opposed to nuclear war. to tell her story is to startle university students because she seems so anomalous. she was an immigrant -- she was an american student who was a radical. socialist in the early 20th century, lived in greenwich village. she converted to catholicism and stunned all of her friends. she had an abortion before she converted. she may have looked out on that with regret, but it was part of her life then. she devoted her next 50 years to willing the catholic worker movement, a