marshall ganz. he's an american maestro of organizing who himself, has never given in to despair or given over to fear. >> marshall ganz: how can change ever happen if the powerful always win? there are conditions under which it turns out david can sometimes win. >> bill moyers: at harvard's kennedy school of government, marshall ganz teaches the next generation of organizers, students from all over the world. he tells them when in doubt, just remember the story in the bible of little david and his slingshot. >> marshall ganz: what did you take from the classic story of david and goliath? how does it begin? how does the whole, when does the action begin? >> goliath is marching out and repeatedly challenging the israelites. and no one comes out to challenge him. >> marshall ganz: right. and so that's just going on day after day. so then what, when does the action shift? >> when david shows up to bring the food to his brothers and hears this and says, "why is no one doing anything to respond to this?"

. >> marshall ganz: an organizer starts by asking not, "what's my issue?" but "who are my people?" 'cause organizing is about people. and then what's the challenge they face? and then how can they use their resources to address that challenge? >> bill moyers: and -- >> rachel laforest: small victories aggregate to this larger sort of beating heart and people feeling deeply inspired by each other. but it takes work. >> madeline janis: everybody deserves a good job and a decent life. and that our government, our democracy has the tools to ensure that. >> announcer: funding is provided by -- carnegie corporation of new york, celebrating 100 years of philanthropy, and committed to doing real and permanent good in the world. the kohlberg foundation. indepennt

well coming up after a short break and side into the ballot ganz devastating hunger and a horn of africa you know i've been asked a few times if i believe in conspiracy theories which is kind of an odd question i mean just in general believe in conspiracy theories like all of them even the ones that contradict each other i mean j.f.k. could have been killed by the mob the cia the k.g.b. and various secret societies at the same time or could he have been no it's just declare themselves official conspiracy theories that's silly obviously it is good just go around fishing for evil plots to explain every situation the mainstream media sure does lie a lot but i think they're telling the truth about that whole sky being blue thing but on the other hand if you never question what the glowing box in your house tells you that just makes you a sucker the kind of sucker who bought that there were magical mysterious invisible weapons of mass destruction in iraq and you know what in all honesty there's actually been real evil conspiracies that have been exposed like the tuskegee experiment and the fa

frankly we need realistic leadership that sets actual priorities rather than prom you will gates sloge ganz. saying we're going to do something does not constitute a policy. button realistic side we need very strong allies. fortunately for us we have a couple of those. actually we have a bunch in asia but i'm going to talk about two of them and that's the republic of korea and japan. we have aws trail i can't, the philippines, taiwan, i know i'm going to leave somebody out. i don't want to insult anybody. but the focus today is on the republic of korea and japan. without those two in harness with the united states we're in a lot of trouble. in fact what i wrote here is we are zung. we cannot deal with the challenges in asia by ourselves. we have to have those friends we've had for a long time and have to continue to work with them. we have to do a better job at supporting those two allies than we may have in the past. i'm not saying we did a bad job at those but i think we can do better. those two countries are our friends because that friendship was forged in wars. with the japanese it was