gao warns that our government is not well-positioned to address this fiscal exposure, and gao recommends a governmentwide strategic approach with strong leadership and the authority to manage climate change risks. gao finds that the government has already spent tens of billions of dollars on damage from severe weather events related to climate change. according to the national oceanic and atmospheric administration, over the past two years, the united states experienced 25 weather disasters that caused over a billion dollars each. gao's historic decision to add climate change to the list of high-risk challenges facing our nation is a wakeup call for congress to finally start addressing this very, very critical issue. unfortunately, in the last congress, the house republicans voted 37 times to block action to address the threat of climate change. for example, they slash a climate change research funding by more than $100 million. they voted to prevent the state department from using funds to send a special envoy for climate change the international climate negotiations. they voted to zero

gao warned that our government is not in a position to address this fiscal exposure in gao recommends strategic approach with strong leadership and authority to manage climate change rose. the government has spent tens of billions of dollars on severe than related to climate change. according to the national oatmeal neck and atmospheric administration, over the past two years, the unit date has experienced 25 weather disasters that caused every billion dollars each. gao's decision to let climate change lives of high-risk challenges facing our nation is a wake-up call for congress to finally start addressing this very, very critical issue. unfortunately, in the last congress, house republicans voted seven times to block action to address the threat of climate change. for example, this last kind of change research funding to more than $100 million devoted to prevent the state department from using funds to send a special on by for climate change to negotiations. the intergovernmental climate change world's leading authority in climate change science voted to prohibit the department of h

the number of soldiers in and around gao has been reduced. on friday, a man on a motorcycle wearing some kind of explosive device blew himself up at a checkpoint. one policeman was injured. it does indicate that groups who do not support the french and malian government are taking advantage of a time when they feel that molly and army troops morelian army troops are exposed. that does not bode well for the future when the french intend to withdraw. >> gunmen in nigeria have shot dead at least nine health workers in two locations in kano state. the victims were working for a polio vaccination program. kano has been regularly targeted by poco from, which -- by boko haram, which has denounced the use of western medicine. this video appears to show shelling in the city in the southwest. it was one of the first to rise up against president sought -- assad's government. there has been a mixed reaction to the offer of talks. how do people feel about the possibility of talks? >> it has been days since the syrian jet destroyed two buildings in a rebel

gao warned that our government is not in all positions to address this fiscal exposure, and gao recommends a government watch strategic approach to manage climate change risk. gao finds that the government has are spent tens of thousands of dollars on damage from severe weather events related to climate change. according to the national oceanic and atmospheric administration, over the past two years the united states has experienced 25 weather disasters that cost over a billion dollars each. gao historic decision to add climate change to the list of high-risk challenges facing our nation is a wakeup call for congress to finally start addressing this very, very critical issue. unfortunately, in the last congress the house republicans voted 37 times to block action to address the threat of climate change. for example, this last climate change research funding by more than $100 million. they voted to prevent the state department from using funds to send a special envoy for climate change to international climate negotiations. they voted to zero out the united states contributions on climate c

council general gao and council general hawk of china and singapore. department heads who are here. we have harlen kelly with puc and mrs. kelly, the city administrator. and chief white. and we have our recorder, nu nguyen and the mayor's office of housing. there are a number of other commissioners here as well. i want to recognize, i did see rodney fung and mrs. riley in the crowd. and to the many others here, thank you for joining with us today. and so this is our ninth annual city hall lunar new year celebration. i am feel honored to welcome you here today. for years san francisco has been a shining example of how we get things done together. and not only have folks from asian-american community and from all walks of life. san francisco is truly a melting pot. we want to celebrate our lunar new year and hope for a prosperous new year. and my new role as assessor, we hope that is true. rather than dragging out this presentation. i want to bring up to speak a number of people who you all know, who you all love. and of course who have many things to sh

meaning that the gao is almost a controller, yet it has no authority. for the most part you saw in the discussion. when we worry about institutional changes, major reform changes that you believe structurally would help us and our successors do a better job for the benefit of the executive branch. >> [inaudible] >> and creates more transparency and easier recognition of the problem. those are the examples of structural change, where you actually have a process that makes accountability easier. >> one of these things is disclosing hidden costs. these are the costs that are buried into the programs. they are just accept it unless somebody asked a question about them. you cannot do that unless you can see them. .. >> there was a hoover commission mind standing it is a poster child, it is it in your opinion time to do that again to have continuity of reorganization and all levels and to do it through multiple administration's. >> i think it is time. one of the things you can look at looking within the departments and agencies but i would urge you to look at

gao report came out about a month ago. we had public meetings on in arizona. what was really disappointing to me was that the results of that study showed that the department rolls out its strategic plan, it's risk-based to cheat you think of it had no goals, no mattress, no evaluation processes. as the department has accepted gao recommendation by november of this year, to implement them, in your view what you need step should be taken to bring that about, and second, who should be at the table? who should be asked about what to be the goals, what should be the risk management measurements and evaluation process before those changes are aspects of the plan are implement its? >> thank you. a couple of things. yeah, it's critically important as a dhs and lets a strategic plan that they put in place to last year, the recent goals and measures are important because it's really a dhs is going to define security at the border, what ultimately are they shooting for in terms of ensuring security along the southwest border? and along with that do they have the resourc

i'm sure that congress will ask gao to look at it. once they do define it, but right now they don't have it operational processed white. >> i would measure how effective we are at achieving the mission. are we effective at keeping terrorist attacks at bay. the effectiveness at the border. the apprehensions and whatever method will never fully capture that. it is also difficult to catch and how effective it is. it is an issue that the congress is taking on this year. how do you measure that when you don't know what the strategic guidance may be from congress or the president on this particular issue and they are still waiting to hear that, that will be important moving forward. >> mr. james? >> i have heard them say that border security is not an issue. as we are talking, the very agency that is responsible for operational control is having a hard time defining it. we don't have this concept yet, or we have a concept that is not spoken to. until we have a discussion like we do right now, we will continue to wonder what does this operat

gao has done work on border security matters on behalf of this committee. this work includes a report released today to examine crime rates on the u.s. side of the southwest border. the report shows in general crime rates have fallen in recent years and in fact mostly lower than crime rate in on border communities within the same states. this data would would appear to suggest while border related crime is of concern, the border community of large safe places to live, work and do business. i hope to hear from ms. gambler in more detail about the report in which eas body of work indicates about the state security along the borders. finally, scott pakistan to develop comprehensive immigration reform legislation, i want to remind our members have border security is linked to immigration matters and will be an integral part of any reform proposal. as the leading committee of border security in the house, the committee has a long and successful history of connecting oversight of the department of homeland security sectors to secure nation's borders. is impaired

i am sure you can get a copy of it and what the gao is saying is these 0 m b guidance implementing the president's executive order on this issue and each of the agency sells the gao they're doing what you said to me, doing economic analysis. dungee ao is saying you are not doing economic analysis the way that the omb directed that it be done according to the guidance. so the request is that you commit, that you will follow the gao recommendation, simply comply with the 0 m b guidance. i am going to take that as an agreement that you will do that. >> i didn't want to leave it. >> maybe not. >> i want to make sure, that we didn't leave you with anything but the best impressions. we have the general counsel and chief economist issuing guidance to the staff on rulemaking to ensure that our final rules do what you are saying. the g a o report is looking at some proposals that came before so we had to address what the recommendations were and proposals before that. we are in a circumstance where statute has explicitly language about cost-benefit considerations and that language is a little d

i recently requested gao of order resource deployment. the gao report came out a month ago. we had public meetings on that in arizona. what was disappointing was the result of that store -- the result of that study showed that when the department rules out a strategic plan, they had no goals or metrics or valuation processes. as the department has now accept gao recommendations by november this year, what immediate steps should be taken? and who should be at the table? who should ask about the goals, a risk-management measurements, and valuation process before those changes or aspects of the plan is implemented? >> a couple of things. it is important thatdhs implement strategic plans. the recent polls and measures are important because it really is howdhs is going to secure the border. what are they ultimately in shooting for -- ultimately shooting for? do they have the resources they need to do that and what is the appropriate mix of resources? dhs used to have a measure called operational control that they have stopped using since 2011. that major basically said how well w

the gao exposed billions of dollars that major dhs acquisition programs have occurred.as we learned yesterday, dhs remains on the high-risk list, including the department of management. in addition, the inspector general has identified over 1 billion in questionable costs. dhs has yet to implement these cost savings opportunities. november of 2012, the inspector general identified significant challenges and how the department manages operations. this includes the men determining whether to declare federal disasters despite spending $4.3 billion and response efforts anyway. it also has been stated that much more work remains consolidate old legacy databases and improves acquisition outcomes. for example, a recent congressional investigation found that tsa has over 200 administrative staff with an average salary over $100,000, and which this does not include screeners. resulting in tsa spending over $3 billion. half its budget a year in payroll compensation and benefits. according to the press reports, dhs doled out $61 million despite the hard economic times and reduce t

tracking and warnings. >> the folks at the gao give us a to do list. ways of wasting money. you don't have to be liberal or conservative. no one wants to waste money. >> the one piece of good news, the computer geeks at the irs have now made enough existing fixes to the agency's troubled 10 billion-dollar computer modernization program to finally get it off the list. it went on the list in 1995. eighteen years and has been on this list. david: it was nice to see an improvement on waste and fraud. liz: definitely. up next, we'll ask analyst about the mayor can airlines and u.s. airways merger. is this good news for investors i'm a conservative investor. but that doesn't mean i don't want to make money. i love making money. i try to be smart with my investments. i also try to keep my costs down. what's your plan? ishare low cost and tax efficient. find out why nine out of ten large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expens

gao testified before congress last week.ere's what the house oversight committee chairman said about what congress should do with the list. >> it's clear that many of the areas on high risk are perennial high risk. 17 areas of this year's "high risk list" have been on that list more than a decade. six have been on the list since its inception. i don't expect overnight to fix dod procurement or to take medicare now becoming our largest total expense and eclipsing, if you include the duel recipients, eclipsing social security and our department of defense individual spending. i don't expect to fix its overnight. with the the help of gao, our committee and other committees of congress have an opportunity to attack each of these areas and make real improvements. host: house oversight committee chairman darrell issa. chris mihm, what does congress do with the recommendations? guest: what you saw from the chairman was a great example of the commitment , as an extra holding oversight and making sure agencies have the tools they nee

. >>> for the first time, the gao says climate change poses a major financial risk to the government.his is the first time they have ever made such an announcement. do you think this report will ignite lawmakers to pass new climate change laws? it is our news nation gut check. >>> and plus how actor will ferrell is getting involved in local politics? >> i'm here to talk about the next mayor of los angeles. you're probably thinking who cares what some strikingly handsome actor thinks? it's hard to describe because you have a numbness but yet you have the pain like thousands of needles sticking in your foot. it was progressively getting worse, and at that point, i knew i had to do something. when i went back to my health care professional, that's when she suggested the lyrica. once i started taking the lyrica, the pain started subsiding. [ male announcer ] it's known that diabetes damages nerves. lyrica is fda approved to treat diabetic nerve pain. lyrica is not for everyone. it may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have

>> we agree with what the gao said. we work very closely with them. it is a business model issue. they're exactly right. we've lost a substantial amount of first class mail. even though the package business is growing very well it is not enough to make the difference up. we had to do a lot of cost reductions. one is to eliminate saturday as a day of mail delivery. but we'll still deliver package. >> when i see you do interviews, you see you on the air you strike me someone with a plan and desperate to make changes and feels like you're held back from doing what you think you need to do in order to make this business viable. we asked you for specific things you want to get done and there are really big changes here. one you want to require the postal service to sponsor its own health care plan. what does that mean exactly? and how much money do you think you could save? >> well right now the postal service is part of the federal plan. it is a good plan, if we took our own plan over, went with big provider, blue cross, united health care, somebody like that, take one million people

. >> there are 47 job training programs according to gao.y five have had an impact study since 2004. less than half of which have performance review. >> can't we cut 2% like american familys? american families don't build their own roads, or run prisons. >> janet napolitano argues the sequester threatens homeland security. and says the department has $# billion in unspent preferences fund. they appoint to $90,000 spent to upgrade security at spring training site in arizona for pro baseball teams. general services administration runs the federal properties won notoriety when an official memorialized lavish paid trip to vegas. stark contrast to building in the gsa inventory. in washington, the hearing noted many go unused. >> there are over 500 buildings here and over 200 of them vacant or underutilized. >> in 2010, president obama said gsa had billions in property that should be sold by 2014. only a portion has been. officials question the value of even those. >> some lawmakers hope it will force closer look at wasteful federal spending. bret

. >> reporter: amina was planning to return home to gao after the french forces freed the city.ow her hopes are dashed. she says when the rebels came, they vandalized her church and burned a bible. she said, they told us they had defeated jesus, but that is a lie. amin and others have found refuge in the capital city of acoko. each of them had stories of tragedy to tell. very sad stories, and they're in great need, especially for food and other supplies. workers with "operation blessing" are now on the ground in mali, providing these refugees beans and rice. they found shelter at some local churches, they still need nutritious meals. more than a quarter of a million malians are displaced. former muslim turned christian, abraham sissis says islamic militants would have killed him if he hadn't left timbuktu. he is thankful for cbn and caring americans. >> i am grateful for what you've done. we really appreciate it. thank you so much, "operation blessing." may god bless you. >> reporter: so as the struggle to liberate mali of armed militants continues, cbn and other christians are

heredia sigue invicto en su cancha y le gao 1-0 a munipal con gol de roben bethancour, la universidad1-0 a motagua, victoria 4-3 sobre real espaÑa, mientras que marathon con vida 1-1 y olimpia con real sociedad 0-0. vamos al futbol cuscatleco. en usulutan, luis angel firpo de local fue goleado 3-0 por el alianza, goles de herber sosa, josue flores y orlando rodriguez, el clasico occidental entre el campeon isidro metapan y fas termino empatado 1-1, santa tecla goleo 4-0 a la universidad, atletico marte vencio 2-1 a juventud independiente y el partido de coleros termino empatado 1-1 entre once municipal y aguila. anotaciones de wilson rugamas y mardoqueo henriquez. el lider de la tabla es fas. en mexico ganaron, tigres, monterrey, tijuana, pumas, morelia, santos, toluca y las chivas de guadalajara.bueno ya listos para los cuartos de final de la concacaf sub-20 camino al mundial de turquia. en la ultima fecha, mexico supero 3-0 a el salvador y panama goleo 4-0 a jamaica. despues de esta jornada les cuento como quedaron las llaves para la siguiente ronda. maÑana a las 6 de la tarde, esta

the rebels had hidden them outside gao. u.s. investigators said today they are not ready to rule that lithium ion batteries used in boeing's 787 dreamliners are inherently unsafe for aviation. instead, the national transportation safety board said manufacturers need to build in better safeguards. at the same time, the board said investigators are still weeks away from determining what caused a battery fire on a japan airlines dreamliner in boston. in the meantime, all 50 of the planes in service, remain grounded. budget battle cries echoed up and down pennsylvania avenue in washington today. president obama called yesterday for a small package of tax hikes and spending cuts to avert the sequester, much larger cuts now set for march first. but house speaker john boehner said today the president has to accept major spending reductions just as republicans had to agree to raise the national debt ceiling. >> we got the debt limit out of the way so that we weren't jeopardizing the full faith and credit of the united states government.

the rebels had hidden them outside gao. u.s. investigators said today they are not ready to rule that lithium ion batteries used in boeing's 787 dreamliners are inherently unsafe for aviation. instead, the national transportation safety board said manufacturers need to build in better safeguards. at the same time, the board said investigators are still weeks away from determining what caused a battery fire on a japan airlines dreamliner in boston. in the meantime, all 50 of the planes in service, remain grounded. budget battle cries echoed up and down pennsylvania avenue in washington today. president obama called yesterday for a small package of tax hikes and spending cuts to avert the sequester, much larger cuts now set for march first. but house speaker john boehner said today the president has to accept major spending reductions just as republicans had to agree to raise the national debt ceiling. >> we got the debt limit out of the way so that we weren't jeopardizing the full faith and credit of the united states government.

in terms of the overall audit program, we have to present to the gao shortly a work plan for 2013. i believe it will look similar to the work plan in 2012, allocating 5000 out of the 17,000 or contract to special projects in audit. some of that a special requests from the supervisors; also perhaps 3000 hours, -- we would bring that shortly. this is one audit to be conducted during the course of the year. in terms of where we are now, we are completing today the final draft on the public safety realignment audit, submitting that to departments to get written comments.we hope to present up to the board of supervisors next week. we have an outstanding audit on the redevelopment agency that we want to discuss with this committee. our goal is to -- the amendment is looking at 12-1500, we cannot do all of it by may. we want to discuss with you what are your priorities and help you decide what some of the highest cost and risk issues are. in terms of the work both supervisor campus and cohen talk about working in tandem with the hud audit, in some of the findings to inform this process as

i asked the gao to study the question of how costly it was to better understand the impact the crisis had on the nation. in a roort releaeport released which i enter in the record the gao concluded while the precise cost of the crisis is difficult to calculate the total damage to the economy may be as high as $13 trillion. i say again $13 trillion. with a "t" dollars. as they urge you to consider the benefits of continuing to implement wall street reform. i would like to make one final comme comment. since he was appointed as head of the cfpb last year director cadre and the cfpb have worked tirelessly to finalize many rules and policies to protect consumers in areas such as mortgages, student lending, service member rights, and credit cards. he has done good work and i urge my colleagues to confirm him to a full term without delay and allow the cfpb to continue its important work protecting consumers. i now turn to our ranking member. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. you and i have a very good personal friendship and have had a good working relationship over the years and i look

the gao and department of justice inspector general they came out with reports that said, we don't know if these things have worked we don't know duplicate programs there are a loss of problems here. not just where we want to send money to help domestically aboutsed women. >> i stand by expanding it just as she mentioned, native american and undocumented women they have a fear of going and saying that they're victims. the same situation happens. undocumented woman is with somebody she's going to -- they're abusing her, she's not going to go out of fear, she's not going to go out of not knowing the resources. so this is a program that will be able to expand and help these people that are vulnerable. that is exactly what it's supposed to be doing. >> if we're talking about making sure that women, particularly women who anyway be foreign descendent in the country, it's a different issue than being able to go to police officer say someone just beat me or raped me. individuals in this country, we have a right to go to the police if someone assaults us or batters us. i guess a little frustrat

i asked the gao to study the question of how costly it was to better understand the impact the crisishad on the nation. in a roort releaeport released which i enter in the record the gao concluded while the precise cost of the crisis is difficult to calculate the total damage to the economy may be as high as $13 trillion. i say again $13 trillion. with a "t" dollars. as they urge you to consider the benefits of continuing to implement wall street reform. i would like to make one final comme comment. since he was appointed as head of the cfpb last year director cadre and the cfpb have worked tirelessly to finalize many rules and policies to protect consumers in areas such as mortgages, student lending, service member rights, and credit cards. he has done good work and i urge my colleagues to confirm him to a full term without delay and allow the cfpb to continue its important work protecting consumers. i now turn to our ranking member. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. you and i have a very good personal friendship and have had a good working relationship over the years and i look

make money in the gao here later today, maybe comment on those ways to make more money. we look forward to see how you do that and how to be less of an impediment when you come up with a good idea. last thing i want to say is this. postal employees are going through a time of great uncertainty. it hasn't been an easy time to be a postal employee. i want to remind them and all of us do most americans are the postal service does a great job. they have better approval ratings that even dr. coburn and me as hard as that is to believe. [laughter] if you're over 85% -- i want to drink what you're drinking over here. >> a disconnect that the combination of not that high and a whole lot lower for us. >> i don't know. i don't know. at the end of the day, i want the postal service employee sued over critical for the work they do. they do vital service, important service and we appreciate the willingness to work with leadership to resize this enterprise. this is a problem that can be fixed. this is a challenge that can be met and our goal, michael and one shared by dr. coburn is a

we don't have that oversight now, so the gao can give is that review to be restoring to all of us. i'm not suggesting anything other than congressional oversight unless we can have some entity that's able to get conclusions on it. is that something like to see done? is set to the chair whether or not to think that if something appropriate. >> you're certainly welcome to that information. >> and we asked the gao to do that? >> when we talk offline and do that. >> i would ask them to consider that. my time is. thank you, mr. chairman. >> i would ask dr. coburn for another round. he said if we do that will be here till supple time. -- suppertime. we are going to forgo another round. i do want to follow up on the questions. we appreciate for dr. coburn and myself a nice pass and others on the committee have received the same document. postmaster general has offered to send their legal team. the state cannot thought not. the other thing i want to say are closing, it's very much for coming. it's been a very helpful earring. sometimes people hold hearings to be able to put a spotlight on

the gao says the least half of that will be wasted. it will never get completed or do what it is supposed to do. back-to-back we had a program cancelled as. because it will never work. this is out inefficient government was they finally cancel that we spend another $100 million, they paid a settlement be to cancel a vaguely dollars the the person responsible did not get fired and not held accountable and the company that did not provide the service did not get sued to get the money back. nobody runs their household that way most government does not, but we're totally incompetent when it comes to spending a merited taxpayer money. the waste $32 billion on a nightly program that don't work that is 60 percent of what they want to take at of the pentagon and that is government-wide. why would we do that? where is the leadership to say we will get this stopped people who look at this delicate the bad actors for those to make those decisions it to pay the money back. he can defraud the government is doing with impunity. merely not willing or

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the report from the gao found the tsa does not know how good the dogs are when people are moving in multiple directions with multiple scents. more thasnn 700 dogs have been deployed. >> we of burned a lot of money and time. >> some bomb sniffing dogs are not getting their monthly training so they may be getting set to work unprepared. >> february is national children's dental health month. the p.g. county health department teamed up with the maryland dental action coalition, offering free dental care for children, kicking off their oral health literacy campaign. >> sometimes we do not understand the choices so this helps. >> the dental program will provide free screenings and applications for children up to the age of 18. it is free but you have to make an appointment. >> victoria's secret is developing a of bras for women who have had mastectomies. there was an online petition highlighting the challenges of women who have had mastectomies. it gained more than 118,000 signatures. that is a great idea. >> let's see what is coming up tonight at 6:00. >> gordon peterson is live in the newsroom

i do not know whether the gao do that. -- can do that. >> we're still bound by the same. >> i am notable to handle the material because i cannot do anything with it. i respect proprietary limitations. >> we compete. every contract in this postal service is competing. >> it is also the american way that there be congressional oversight of your contact -- contract. if the gao could give us that review, it would be reassuring to all of us. >> we would be happy to do that. >> is up to the chair as to they think whether that is something that is appropriate. >> your certainly welcome to that information. >> why don't we talk about this offline. >> my time is up. >> we're going to forgo another round. i want to follow-up on questions from senator levin. the legal opinion, mr. donahue, i want to make sure that others on the committee and their staffs receive the same documents. the postmaster general has offered to send their legal team up to answer our questions. let's take them up on that. the other thing i want to say in closing, it has been a very helpful hearing. sometimes people hold

patrol, the account of illegal evidence entering the country, frankly, by 39 percent according to the gaoy that all the other statistics as well a highly suspect and have been provided by all the relevant agencies, as you say, stubborn things and in this case i'm sure uncomfortable lou: this is true. however, republicans will lead an opportunity at this point to climb on the immigration and wagon given what happened. >> neither side. here's why. president obama has democratic majority's holding the presidency. they're moving out of desperation. lou: you're saying there is no political impact for either party to act against the national interest a long as they accommodate the political interest. lou: coming up, the author of what to expect when no one is expecting. the long-term consequences of a lack of american birds. and what we can expect as a result. former aig chairman and ceo on what happened to his company, what happened to wall street, and the country itself. former congressional budget office director among our guests. go to loudobbs.com to get the last hour facebook page, twitte

if you look at the gao report the pentagon has wasted over $70 billion. i think the pentagon can help lead the way these doomsday scenarios are not true. american leadership within the military will make the necessary cuts and return to a fighting force that is more lethal and more efficient than ever. >> neil: what are some areas where you can get obvious savings without jeopardizing security? >> the defense logistics agency purchased 50% more equipment that was needed. $7 billion worth of army equipment that sat on warehouse shelves collecting dust. what we are looking in washington, d.c. is courage. we need that in d.c. we need people to make real cuts and give american people the truth. even after the sequester we're going to spend $15 billion more this year than we did in 2012. >> neil: do you think in terms of some of the silly programs that dumb stuff that other agencies do that we'll ever get a handle on this? or is it so out of control now that even talking about reining in the growth of spending within the respected agencies is not going to happ

the gao says there are 800,000 illens who have been placed before judges and then released into the communityesn't this create a clear danger to community safety? >> neil: in your analysis, is this process generally speeding up and now the latest thing, using sequestration as a justification for it? i remember from last time you were here, they were pulling these shen unanimous -- shenanigans. >> they're making it easer for these people get lost and then they'll hold some field -- >> neil: not a means means to ct them out but they don't if -- may have thed and it's working through the appeals process. >> if they really want to do things smart. why don't we tell criminal aliens, once you have been convicted of crimes, if you want to appeal, appeal from your home country. >> neil: if you had a criminal background, i would think that's a no-brainer york secured. >> you'd think it's a no-brainer to release people who are working hard to get incarceration. i call is operation back rub. the purpose for immigration law is is two old. protect innocent lives and protect job office american workers. ri

there's an excess of $125 billion in waste and fraud in the federal government, and we have another gao report that tells us there's hundreds of billions of dollars in savings -- >> shepard: you know, here's what i think happened this week, the old bob woodward thing was seminal development. it's almost as if the boat started leaking. it's one thing to say that's just todd yapping. but this is bob woodward who says i remember what the sequestration arrange was and what it would involve, that there would be no talk of revenues, just a discussion of cuts and the only debate would be the degree of those cuts and how far they go and what be cut. now that he is called on that -- wood wavered -- wait a minute, you have that wrong, and then what clear lie is a threatening e-mail. not too bright to put it in an e-mail but it sort of exposed an underbelly of something i've been telling people is there, they should be aware of. whether it's the president or others involved, the fact of the matter it's sort of like a wink and a nod understanding that if you dare question us, you will be screwed. >

he cut a deal with one of his appointees who was the head of the gao. i'm sorry, the gsa. it is the government services administration appeared at those -- in those days, they ran the national archives. the deal was that richard nixon would have the tapes in five years and could destroy whatever he wanted. whatever was not presented for truck, he could destroy and he could have his papers and destroy them appeared richard nixon cut this deal before he left the white house. congress found out about it, went crazy and seized his materials. that meant that the nixon materials were like a crime scene. i am telling you, running the nixon library is one of the most phenomenal experience is one could have. because what happened was nixon overplayed his hand and the government responded in a very tough way. so everything was scooped up, absolutely everything, including separate -- super 8s. those were films back then could it was on government time. people used to take their super eight cameras, and videotaped their birthday parties, their kids' birthday parties. and then they wou

the goo found that we could -- gao found that we could cut $400 billion in duplicative spending. studies on world of warcraft for elderly people. if we can't cut that, we can't cut anything. >> we've heard the waste, fraud, and abuse argument many times -- >> $200 billion. >> is there $2 hundred billion really that can be cut? we've heard waste, fraud, and abuse. i think all the low hanging fruit is gone. >> sure, victor. there can be cuts that are done in a smart way. the problem here, though, is that republicans are refusing to make the cut smartly but to make this whole issue, do it in a balanced way. and what i mean by that is that we can't cut our way to prosperity. we can't just continue to focus on cuts, cuts, cuts. there are cuts that need to be part of this mix. the majority of the american people, 75% actually including republicans across the board agree that there should be tax increases by closing corporate loopholes and loopholes for millionaires and billionaires that they use to pay less taxes than their secretaries. those should be put on the table. the republicans

. >> one of the points that the gao made really was because climate change is such a catastrophe ande're going to have more storms and more hurricanes and, i guess, more, you know, snow blizzards to me know, we will need even more money for these agencies which is interesting because, you know, if you just look at the data over the last five years to actually, prior to sandy we had had less severe storms than any time in 30 years. you know, i mean, it is amazing. they pick one storm m1 pinpoint and say this proves something had been trying to talk about by the way, how many programs were there to mecca think, six are seven programs dealing with global warming? mike pantages. >> host: gerri: here is the interesting thing. g.a.o. points out that these press run of control and just rife with waste, fraud and abuse. yet the president just days ago in the state of the union saying kamal we need to double that of climate change in their spending for climate change. what you make of that? >> well, i discovered a rule in washington. have been here for 25 years. if the program is not working