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gao hopes to sell his own dogs in the future and continue breeding.g a tibet aan mastiff was onthe means of many chinese citizens. but the high prices only fuelled the fire to have one. animal rights activist liu contacted us. she wants to take us to see a tibetan mastiff. when we reach her apartment, seven dogs are running around. she has taken them in as she can't find them new homes no matter how hard she tries. >> liu is from a province where it's customary to eat dog meat on special occasions. but she always opposed it, beg her parents and other adults to stop. gi gi her parents and other adults to stop. beggin her parents and oth adults to stop. g her parents an adults to stop. >> she takes to us see the tibetan mastiff she wanted to show us. it's being kept in a town two hours away. she called the dog do-akhyi, which means the bringer of good fortunate. she rescued her two years ago on line. she said the dog was poorly cared for and had a skin disease caused by ticks living in its long hair. she suspects that's why he was abandoned. >> dog love

we had gao and the ig making recommendations. yet tsa somehow believes they have their hat on and they are able to figure out what to anticipate and what not to participate. so i would encourage that continued partnership. speaking of partnerships, i want to focus on the partnership for public service. and specifically with regards, administrator, to low employee morale. we have held the hearings in this very room about some of the worst places to work, which perhaps that title was not the best title to pick. but we've also found that there is a tremendous opportunity in terms of morale on how to encourage the workforce. your survey has consistently -- well, let's just say that it is not something that you try to attain. do i have your commitment today to reach out to some of those agencies that get good marks on that survey to find out the best practices they have? nasa, in particular, continues to get high marks. do i have your commitment to do that? >> yes, sir. >> let me go a little bit, director grover, let me come you to. i

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that means that today, of course it is a conviction for gao yu. she is on medical parole and that medical parole might not last. technically it's only until she recovers. so it's very hard for any prisoner in china, whoever they are, to get a fair case. it has slightly improved because of very bold lawyers, like her lawyers, who take enormous risks to defend cases and sometimes manage to get some sort of hearing, but very difficult for them to get acquittals. that would be very unusual.{enter} q. this is a case about the passing of a document isn't it but the implication is that this goes all the way back 26 years ago to the events on ti arranges nrngsam on square in which this woman was critical of government policy. it's a glimpse, didn't it into the works of the authorities in china and the lengths they're prepared to go >>> yes. it's her third time in prison. had 15 months in prison just after the 1989 events without a charge and then a six-year charge for supposedly leaking another document in 1995. so she would have altogether clocked up abo

>> we are not seeing a plan of abz that we recommended. >> reporter: the gao recommended an l.o.d. action plan five years ago but farrell has yet to see it. >> is that acceptable? >> this is something that needs careful oversight and an action plan to reduce the backlog and need to move quickly. >> reporter: the report makes it clear there is a problem and we heard from members of the military in california and throughout the country that talk about living that problem. well, here in virginia we came to ask the national guard bureau how it's going to fix the problem. our request for an interview, declined. the department of defense is updating the policy on l.o.d.s. the dod declined to advise about the new policy. in a statement, the ngb says it reduced the backlog 20% in the past two years. but the guard has provided few details about why it has failed to meet l.o.d. deadlines. servicemens add delays by reporting their injuries late. and insiders point to problems with the computer tracking system. >> you can get it donen a timely manner. there is no excuse for the delay. >> repor

the gao found weak oversight by the employees in the disability program. the gao found that they did not properly monitor the in the accident of recipients who earn some extra money but continue to receive benefits. the gao said the rules of the program are so complicated that both the government workers who administer it and those who get the benefits are confused resulting in the stakes on both sides. and now the social security administration says it is working to try to better automate this program to capture fraud and errors and get training to catch these kinds of problems but as you know in the budget to your budget that congress just approved last week, there are some significant reforms to the disability insurance program. back to you. deirdre: peter barns joining me you there from the. at chipotle e. coli claises are climbing now, at least 31med washington state. details on whether or not the situation is being managed properly coming your way. more on your health. there's a new report that middle-aged white people, the death rate for that group

and gao will tell congress today there is no solid proof that tsa's screening methods are effective. also the department of homeland will be on capitol hill.eral - he will also discuss security gaps discovered in an earlier convert testing that happened this year in which they tested tsa agents at eight different airports and tsa agents most of the times, they were unable to detect fake bombs at those check points. >> so renee i find that very disturbing. i want to bring in richard quest now. richard, put this into perspective. why am i even bothering to walk through the metal detective? >> reporter: you have to the distinguish between the equipment, the procedures and the way they are being used. remember earlier the scandal with the tsa when the head was reassigned because staff were unable in the majority of cases of pat downs and inspections to discover bombs and other equipment that were being used for tests. so the fact that the gao has come out with this report is if you like heaping further injury on to insult of what we already know about the tsa, which is that they would ap

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. >> brenda feral, the gao director of defense capabilities and management conducted an investigation. and released this report back in july. >> we believe that the data speaks very loudly, that there is a problem. >> nearly three quarters of the lods she analyzed in the natural national guard did not meet military deadlines. >> you issues your report in july. it gs -- it is now november. >> we didn't see a plan of action like we recommended. >> they recommended an action plan five years ago but feral has yet to see it. >> is that acceptable from your perspective? >> this is something that needs careful over site. they need an action plan of how to reduce the backlog and they need to move quickly and put someone in charge. >> the gao report makes it clear there is a problem and we've heard from members of the military in california and throughout the country that talk about living that problem. well here in arlington, virginia, we came to ask the national guard bureau how it will fix the problem. our request for an interview, declined. the national guard bureau said the department of

but at the end of the day for gao it comes down to a simple question which is, does the program work and how do you know? >> what have we done to address immediate challenges, retrained the front line workforce. should i start with the junior most person in the organization standing on a screening line and i think about what it mean for that individual to do their job effectively. >> so here are some of the issues the office has with the agency. they say that tsa has not evaluated the effectiveness of new screening technologies, they also say tsa has no consistent performance measures for its secure flights program, which is essentially a program that allows them to match passengers' names against terror watch lists. and, lastly, the gachlt o says has failed to use data to identify possibilities other areas to improve and strengthen the system. jake, we should point out, you heard from the tsa head, he says that he has retrained all of his front line workers to address some of these issues but he's also pushing back. he pointed out that, every day tsa finds firearms at airport securi

. >> reporter: in fact, the gao recommended an l.o.d.ction plan five years ago, but farrell has yet to see it. is that acceptable from your perspective? >> this is something that needs careful oversight. they need an action plan of how to reduce the backlog and move quickly and put someone in charge. >> reporter: the gao report makes it clear there is a problem. and we've heard from members in the military and in california and throughout the country that talk about living that problem. well, here in arlington, virginia, we came to ask the national guard bureau how it's going to fix the problem. our requests for an interview declined. the national guard bureau says the department of defense is updating the policy on l.o.d.s. the d.o.d. declined to provide details about the new policy or when it will be implemented. in a statement the njb says it reduced the backlog by nearly 20% in the past two years adding we are optimistic that the delinquencies will significantly improve. but the guard has provided few details about why it has failed

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i just want to have the gao take a look at the european system. asked folks, i have in the railroad administration, including the administrator and members of congress about this. thisrgument i hear about -- against this amendment is a one-time cost. we have already invested money in ptc. anyone that knows how to run a basic business knows that you do not make decisions based on cost. we have to make the best decision we can going forward. i think this amendment will help the country make that decision. thank you. and, yourmr. sable next up. >> thank you very much. thank you for the opportunity to testify to the surface transportation reauthorization and reform act. the amendment as a simple technical correction that allows variable form program. public ferries can be used between points in the in-state. it could be used between territories and a state. ferryboat runs are limited -- funds are limited. they may be used with in any state or territory. for example, funding would be used for service between seattle, washington and another city. all of

until agencies take action to address weaknesses and implement gao and hygiene -- recommendations.etworks and sensitive information, including personally identifiable information would be at increased risk from internal annex earl threats, actions to implement regulations will strengthen systems and data security. and reduce the risk of cyber intrusion or attacks. that concludes the summary of my statement and i look forward to addressing your questions. thank you. >> thank you. the chair now recognizes himself or questions. mr. roth, how many subpoenas regarding the chaffitz incidents and the master central index, how they subpoenas were issued? >> i believe it was only one. >> so why, if multiple individuals breached of the information and may have compromised it, why would only one subpoena be issued? y with a not be multiple subpoenas -- why would there not be multiple subpoenas? >> most of the data received was from multiple data systems. the only time we have to subpoena information is if we go to a third party like a telephone record provider. typically, it is our policy in

gao found no evidence of selections, we agree that tightening the controls will reduce the risk that any unfair selections would occur in the future. another issue is to improve our record retention process. tohave initiated a process secure the e-mails of all employees of the agency. while we continue to implement , werecommendations appreciate their bipartisan efforts on critical issues. these issues include accelerating due dates for information returns, allowing the irs to require minimal reinstatingns, and certain authorities. i would also recommend giving the irs correctional -- correctable error authority in certain cases. this concludes my opening statement. appreciate the way that your agency has worked with this committee, but i also want to that there remain several open issues on the targeting of conservative groups. i understand there is at least one group caught up in the targeting that is still waiting on determination. can you confirm your using all expediency to remove all of these? >> i cannot confirm any particular one but there are just a handful. some are in liti

and that what appears to be lacking per gao. let me move on again, just limited time. the second report talked about the problems of a lack of evaluation for programs for the seriously mental ill at samsa. 30 programs specifically targeting individuals with smi, nine had completed an evaluation, four had an evaluation underway, 17 had no evaluation completed and none planned. i can go through but it is more like that. dismal statistics regarding those getting evaluated. and again, the cassidy/murphy bill focuses on the need for evidence-based practices. that said, regularizing there are serious gaps and need for consistency and reviewing monitoring programs. what is samsa doing to create a better culture and evaluation of the agency. >> i agree that evaluation is an important issue. samsa takes responsibility for the overnight seriously. >> the can you give me specifics? >> samsa has established an evaluation committee. so we are overlooking our programs to establish the -- >> the 17 not evaluated and none planned. why did that ever occur? >> i think there was some cha

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and the gao also says that tsa failed to use data that they have to identify opportunities to improveheir system. as you know, since september 11th, billions of dollars have been spent on aviation security and the gao told congress today the bottom line is many, not all, but many of the agency's screening methods are simply being propped up as effective without a measure of effectiveness. take a listen. >> but at the end of the day for gao, it comes down to a simple question, which is does the program work and how do you know. >> in other words, they are saying there's no hard data to support that their systems are effective. the tsa pushing back. they say they have trained their entire front lines and say they will continue to improve their training. >> okay, renee marsh, thank you very much. >>> coming up next, one of the latest victims of gun violence in the city of chicago. this 9-year-old boy shot and killed in an alley near his grandmother's home. how could something like this happen. we'll take you live to chicago. >>> also putting a spotlight once again on the problems with gu

host: robert goldenkoff is with the gao.and his statement before congress is on gao's website. 2020 census, progress report on using administrative records. you can check it out. we appreciate your time. we'll see you back here tomorrow morning, 7:00 eastern. have a great monday. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] the ♪ational captioning institute, [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, >> republican senator tom cotton talking about disability benefits. in about two hours he will be speaking. a look at the future of afghanistan with the carnegie endowment for international peace and a

>> guest: the gao says that but this is just anecdotal evidence that those are no longer assuming government support and i want to overstate this to say the problem is solved but there is attention paid over time it does have tools for the right place. >> host: review concerned about dodd/frank at 500 billion tears strip away of all the court needed panels from treasury and fdic? >> some of the languages about eliminating dodd/frank of the whole that is very constructive you don't have to inspect every single clause but i hope we come to a situation to where changes could be made before the most part. >> perhaps those two biggest initiatives we don't debate making adjustments rebated of the collins ruled. with a repeal or not. >> the one proposal is to eliminate title to authority was that the lesson not to do that? >> what the grossi does the goal is to protect the creditors to major the bondholders to get as much as they can. but at the time when lehman brothers collect -- collapsed we were concerned of the overall system. they ended up losing a lot of money which by the way it goes agains

gao has long-standing concerns about the state of information security in the federal government. we initially identified several information security as a governmentwide high risk area 18 years ago. we subsequently expanded this high-risk designation to include computerized system supporting the nation's critical infrastructure and the protection of privacy and personally identifiable information. the cyber threats facing our country continue to be very serious the impact of these threats is highlighted by recent incidents involving breaches of sensitive personally identifiable information and the sharp increase in information security incidents reported by federal agencies over the last several years. they have risen from 5,502,006 to around 67000 in 2014. given the risk posed by external and internal threats and the increasing number of incidents, it is crucial that federal agencies take appropriate steps to secure their systems and data. however, we and inspectors general have continued to identify significant weaknesses in needed security controls. for for example, in fiscal

i could not agree with more that the recommendations that have come from oig and gao is just vitally critical for these to be implemented. you, mr. neffinger, being in this position four months, hats off to you. thank you for your comments today and your willingness to admit the problems you're facing and willingness to attack those head on. as some of the results have come back from some of the various tests, a word was used earlier describing those results as pathetic and you yourself are fully aware of that. another word that hit the earlier is the world culture. it's been within tsa. and i believe inspector roth said the culture is the most important issue that you saw that needs to change immediately. so that being said, what have you done to this point to transform the culture a at tsa in such a way that the vulnerabilities are adequately addressed? >> mr. hice, thank you for that question. that is a key point. you know, i've looked at tsa, i w i come from an agency of 225 people. that being the u.s. coast guard. tsa is still largely an a amal tkpupl of the cultures of the plac

trying to do that, you got to go with the golden rule, you screwed up, you've got to basically admit it, gaoo go to people and say look, i really thought either you were going to work a lot harder and you're not, in which case i need more people or you have to work more or i just made the mistake and we're up against entrench e competition. if you want to stay here kick in. >> i think it's because she surveyed the market and going too broad. you got to focus on what's going to be successful. >> let's move on to the last question about expanding your business to new areas. >> we've grown organically and based a lot on our network and referrals and repeat business, but to take it to the next level how to develop a more affordable stance around business development. >> those words give me shivers in a bad way. she's trying to figure out how to sell more formal business development and all this. i think companies focus on analytics and what they do is have analysis, they take analysts into companies, they figure out how they are based on numbers. they probably don't have great sales people and t

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it gao got booed.e cut kasich down, booed.n >> his hand movements are interesting. >> it seems to me he gave his support, what they want to see, they already don't like donald trump is there i think so, too. i think there is a possibility he could have increased his appeal. aside from that real testy exchange with kasich. donald trump didn't give you the same druch that you sea on the campaign stump, which is to say that on the campaign stump, donald trump is constantly fired up. leveling personal barbs, whether it's ben carson who he didn't address last night. he didn't go after him at all. so it's really interesting to see him do that, attack ben carson, marco rubio. didn't call marco rubio a he - lightweight, frevenlths donald trump is focused on showing voters he is a serious candidate. that is something he did and we will continue to do, which is an interesting change in tactic. >> what about rand palm, i think we seen something different than before. >> i think in the past debates, we have been w

. >> on tuesday tsa security and the gao testified at the house oversight hearing on tsa security. a recent report found tsa is not as secure as it should be. as two hours and 45 minutes. . the 9/11 commission concluded in their report, the most important failure was one of imagination. we do not believe leaders understood the gravity of their threat. a better job for security threats they can only copy imagine. they're coming up with creative ways to circumvent these and testing security measures. battle for aviation security is caught by the thousands of men and women who serve in the tsa were worse. there is also a human component and other methods are used throughout the world that we should be paying attention to implement ourselves. the passenger screening process including luggage and carry on must be working in concert. dois a vital part of all we to protect this nation. and that's the hearing today. i would like now see of time to the former chairman of the transportation committee. you heard what i just commented on. confirmst this week every area of operation we will hea

was actually introduced in july by brian babb bought of texas, simply says put it on pause until the gaoan figure out what the costs are to this program. during that period of time let congress decide on it. you know, we've already seen a president who refuses to lead, a president who won't work on a bipartisan basis to try to find solutions. i hear bernie sanders talking about we're not going to let fear rule us. well, why aren't we in the middle east right now on the ground or at least in the air why aren't we training troops? why aren't we arming them to stop this crisis. we are not doing anything. >> the united states is accepting refugees from iraq, somalia, most of them muslim. you think that the u.s. should stop that as well? >> i think right now now is a good time to put it on pause. the united states has been a target. paris was not something kne new. we've seen this in australia, the u.k. spain, al-qaed al-qaeda-affiliated type groups with isis in the background. i think the time to sit back and say let's put a collective head together. since 2009 under president obama, 500,000

funding advantage by making a plausible case that, in fact, -- >> you argue most of that advantage that gaoor bloomberg might have cited, they didn't cite them yesterday. this was a small number years ago. you're arguing that much of that has been -- >> i would note -- again, this is just a piece of evidence. some of the bond-rating agencies are no longer assuming government support when they rate the bonds of large banks. i'm not saying the problem is solved. i think things are moving in a direction and dot frank did provide that allowed regulators to get to the right place. >> are you concerned about dot frank that there's an effort to move up, 500 billion, strip away a number of the powers from stock, coordinating of all the coordinated panel, if you will, of the fed and treasury and fdic and others. are you concerned about that from the legislation -- >> some of the language is about gutting and replacing and eliminating dot frank. i think dot frank has been constructive. i don't think you need to defend every single clause. there are some things that are less effective than other thing

as you know, since september 11th, billions of dollars have been spent on aviation security, but the gaosaying bottom line that many of tsa's screening methods are being propped up as effective, but they don't have a measure of effectiveness so how do you know that it works if you haven't truly tested or analyzed it. the tsa is pushing back. we want to be fair to them 37 the head of the tsa saying they have retrained their whole front line work office and they are continuing to increase and enhance training for new hires. >> thank you very much. >>> as local iraqi fighters prepare to launch an offensive tro retake their homes, their families brace for another type of threat as they hide out on a mountain overlooking their town. we have the incredible story, when we come back. plaque psoriasis... ...isn't it time to let the... ...real you shine... ...through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months. and otezla's prescribing information has n

joe wilson is managing director of the technology he leads the gao where the gao possible relations across federal government. joining the gao in 1979, he has led numerous reviews of information technology systems and management at a variety of federal agencies. welcome. mr. clancyecognizes for his opening statement. good morning, mr. chairman, chairman langford, chairman perry, chairman johnson, ranking member watson coleman and ranking member thompson. and distinguished members of the committee. the opportunity to testify. i plan to address the findings from the recent report and that many findings designed to .rotect the findings i also look forward to discussing the numerous organizational changes we've made at the secret service and would like to express my gratitude and recognize the support of secretary johnson and the congress in making many of these changes possible. i said this for you -- i said before you today a proud representatives of the men and women who selflessly execute the issue of this daily. as well as a number of high-profile cyber investigations served to reinforce

the amendment i am offering would require the gao to conduct a study of the implementation and et ka si of the european train control system or etcs to determine the feasibility of implementing a similar system throughout the u.s. rail network to meet the requirements of ptc. etcs, europe's version of ptc has replaced more than 20 incompatible national signaling systems with a single inoperable standard that is proven to increase efficiency and prove ambassador safety, save energy and lower ownership cost. there is a clear parallel between america's rail network and that of europe before the adoption. i believe we would benefit from this technology that harmonizing technical standards across borders and regions. from china to mexico, nations with the largest economy's in the world have seen the value that etcs has for the efficient, reliable, with and safe transport of goods and people. as the railroad industry, the administration, and congress continue to move forward with the implementation of ptc, it is important to see what lessons we can glean from the global leaders in rail tra

. >> greatly value the work of the gao and the ig's office because they give me a third-party independentassessment of what are are some of those challenges. >> not a very good personnel agency. the recruitment's horrible, the training's horrible, the retention is horrible. it just goes on and on. >> the inspector general was especially critical and said the culture in the tsa has been to ignore problems. >>> well, some video just coming into the newsroom of a small plane making a crash landing in arkansas. there were three people on board the plane when it crashed into a truck in fayettelle. paramedics checked out the truck driver on the scene. former walmart ceo bill simon was piloting the plane. he wasn't hurt and neither were his passengers. >>> about a dozen commuter trains in portland, oregon, are being inspected after sudden flooding surprised the passengers. this video was taken friday during heavy rain. startled riders jumped on the seats and they swung on handrails to try to keep from getting wet. no one was injured. transit officials say it was an error in judgment to drive thr

last year the gao said the government wasted $125 billion in improper fraudulent payments to citizens. if we can harness some of that waste and turn it toward mars we can easily afford it. >> that's was your argument for affording it. i meant do you think -- what reflection would it be on the u.s. if it could not make it to mars is what i'm asking. excuse me. >> i think to stake a claim that we're going to mars and then to not fund it is hand waving, and it would be very disappointing to young people today, scientists and engineers who want to participate in this great adventure and make america the leader in space innovation. to step back from that would be a big disappointment and in contrast with jfk's speech. >> thanks. tom joen tom, thank you. great to talk with you. >> if matt damon can make it all the way to mars -- >> that's a movie, greg. it's not real. >> seriously? >> i like matt damon. >> i thought they brought him home, too. >>> why some retailers are canceling an annual shopping frenzy and how it could affect your holiday shopping. test. the >>> waiting in lun for doorbu

and gao have put forward. could you give us that today, do you think?or do you want to give it to us for the record? >> i'll give you a schedule for the record. what i will tell you is what i told both the inspector general and director grover, that is i'm committed to addressing all the remaining open recommendations as well as any that remain that are nonconcurs and getting those closed. >> if you can give the committee, in the next -- when are you going to leave this open, ten days, mr. -- ten days, without objection, so ordered. we'll leave it open for ten days. no, i'm not finished, that was just leaving it open, making certain i comply with your wishes. but in any event, ten days. and we would like that made part of the official record. and as exact a date, because again, i'm going to hold a subcommittee hearing if we don't hold a full one with any year, give you a chance. you're here, and i love your attitude, i love your willingness to be open with the committee. you've inherited one of the most difficult tasks. you're the, what, sixth administr

a new chair at least every 5 years so it is in its thirty day wait period and likely heard anothers gao or something i'll keep the commission informed and as far as those two new seats we'll be asked for input in terms of folks predicament for those seats. >> a quick question did supervisor wiener's office identify a problem or series of problems that that was somehow adding. >> yes. it is a simple answer and i'm bet if you explicit talk about it at introduction he'll do see when it is the first committee hearing as far as that it is certainly some discomfortable in his office about coming two consistence would respect to other outcomes again we've been sitting for years on it and sent consistent members to it and you know everyone has a different opinion that is the best thing to say at this point so any event it is interesting i don't know from the ends will impact events but there you have it. >> i wanted to give the commission age follow-up it on the last concert at at&t we spent quite a few of the of times ac/dc was september 25th i--i don't know if anyone heard that the precisely

that is one of the outcomes of the gao and the ig reports that found the tsa, really, in many instancesugh enough job at checkpoints across the country, in terms of screening people and looking for any possible weapons. that's part of the text of this discussion we've had over the last few weeks and months. in addition to that, we know the homeland security secretary has put out the word, not just to airports and not to big city mayors, but in addition to sporting venues and to businesses over the last few days saying, listen, we all need to collectively take security as a top priority. if you say something, see something, you know that they have rolled out this new app in the last few days to that effect. and really, the notion is that we are all in this together and everybody needs to be having the eye on the ball and the eye right now is very much on security. the last point i would make, brian, to follow-up on your point, the overseas travel warning is truly an overseas travel warning. it is not domestic. it relates to the overseas threats from al qaeda, boca horam and isis. america

and there was just another gao inspector general report came out that suggested that in fact tsa screeners failed yet again in september to detect weapons or fake weapons, mock weapons, smuggled through tsa checkpoints. i mean, there's wide recognition that the tsa checkpoint system can be improved upon. but as it relates to the u.s. airlines and their involvement over the sinai, it is nil. the united states does not have any airlines flying into, out of, or over the sinai at all. in fact, there was a notice to airmen issued by the faa earlier this year in which they suggested any u.s. carrier fly above 26,000 feet because of the threat of potential surface-to-air missiles, shoulder-fired missiles out of the sinai. but in addition to that, faa requiring any u.s. carrier that would fly over the sinai to notify the faa first. there simply isn't any u.s. traffic over that region. i do think that the point is a good one. nick talked about the alleged poor security at sharm el-sheikh airport. in fact, the security director at that airport has already been fired. that according to bill neely for

gao, have you audited the ct path program lately?mber of years ago, we found significant problems in the integrity of that program. >> yeah, that's right. we looked at that program roughly 2008. we have an ongoing review that just started just a month or two ago, so it's still underway, and we're very far from having our final findings, but we'll be happy to come up and chat with you about what we're learning along the way. .. >> with your double-blind triple blind. >> yes. >> yes, sir. >> so what we scan against are the names of all of the ownership entities associated with the vessel call with the containers, with the crewmembers in their hiring. so those are some of the areas that we look at to try to see beyond the individual names of the people on board with a company that is shipping. but we try to look at all of the corporate entities and their history behind the vessel itself, its cargo, and the crewmembers and hiring practices because we see some characteristics of companies that are engaged in the hiring that may be more pr