criminal alien is the term that is used throughout this gao report. why that term and what does it mean? a criminal alien is someone who is not a citizen or a national of the u.s. who has been arrested and/or convicted of the crime. we use the term alien because that is a term that is defined in statute to its part of the immigration and naturalization act. these could be immigrants legal or illegal. guest: correct. host: how many aliens are currently in the criminal justice system right now? guest: for the purposes of our report we actually studied two populations. the first are criminal aliens who are incarcerated in federal prison. the second population are in, serrated -- incarcerated in federal and local. was 190,000.n the study population we did a subset that was about 500,000. when you look at the numbers in terms of the changes. i will talk about what our objectives were. the first objective was to look at the numbers and nationalities of the criminal aliens incarcerated. was to look at the arrest and convictions of criminal aliens. the third

gao has done this report a few times. are about every 5 to 7 years we will update the review. part of what we were doing this time is to update the review, to examine the change over time. when i talked about the federal population in our study, we were looking at 2011-2016. when i talk about the state population in our study we are talking 2010-2015. those pickup from the last report. the last report we issued was in 2011. >> host: what happens to criminal aliens after they serve their time in us prisons? are they deported? >> guest: some of them can be but not all. that is the fourth objective in our report, when we look at what these offenses are after incarceration. some may be removable. some may be in immigration proceedings. if you are in immigration proceedings the likelihood you would be removed right away, you couldn't get a full sentence for that because of the way the immigration process works. >> host: do any go on to become us citizens? >> guest: yes. we looked at a small subset, 16 of the people in our population ended up being naturalized. >> host: 16 on how ma

we meet with the gao and oig rectally. we take an action. we taken action on a backlog of this allowances. we've addressed some of improper payments have going on with the medicaid program in california, for example, where we recovered by the end of this year $9.5 billion. we've also closed some of the loopholes in the designated state health programs up to the tune of $25 billion. this allowances, that was $590 million that we went back and address. we are also doing some of her own audits around beneficiary eligibility as well as managed-care audits. we are restoring the perm audits as well, those we started doing those. we've taken a lot of action and i agree we -- >> mr. dodaro, let's assume we went a perfect system enters the waste, fraud or abuse. how much reduce this number? >> probably marginally. >> and that's the point, is that we need to spend every dollar critically but at the end of the day that's not going to solve our problem with this explosion of medicaid costs. this is a product of aging. aging into the system. it's a produ

so, the work that we're doing-- we do at the gao on these issues.irst we look at a lot of the programs that u.s. and other countries for counterterrorism activities. our role is to figure out where the money is going to the right people. all of these are to be vetted to make sure we don't have human rights violations. the other issues we look at the defense department quite a bit in terms of their efforts to rebuild their readiness and to improve their operations, we'll be continuing to do that. we also will be looking at the efforts to modernize the nuclear weapons complex over time, and a lot of work in the cybersecurity area. i'll talk a little bit more about that in a minute. the other area, we look to foreign investment in the united states. there's the program at the commerce department, dod and other agencies do to make sure that that investment didn't compromise national security interests and that's on our high risk list as well and we think that process needs refinement and also the global supply chain now, both from the cyber standpoint,

does it surprise you gao's review of the data for insurers show at. it -- aggregate application denial rate for the first quarter of 2010, 19%, 19% of the people who try to get health insurance on the private market were denied because of preexisting conditions. does that figure surprise you? >> i'm aware of that data, yes. >> i'm assuming there was nothing inherently in place. my state attorney general supporting is successful. nothing can be done that would change the market reverting to that, unless congress took action. >> i can't speak to a pending lawsuit but i am deeply concerned about individuals with preexisting conditions and we need to have protections in place for those individuals. as the administrator of cms, my job is to implement the law and if the law changes in some way i will work with congress to make sure we have protections in place for people with preexisting conditions. >> no reason the lawsuit couldn't have exempted preexisting conditions. did you weigh in with doj and ask them, do filings specifically say they wanted severabi

daines: you mentioned gao. general dodaro. is gao analyzing improper payments data pertaining the expansion population? comptroller dodaro: yes, we have looked at that issue, raised a number of recommendations to cms in somess, for example, states, they asked cms to do the the eligibility determination for them. but they need to check on that to make sure they have good quality controls in place. so, that is a good step forward. they are putting that in place. we are checking that. that should be ok. the other thing is that they need to make sure they are checking because some people can move between medicare, or the medicaid program itself and the exchanges. and they can go back and forth depending on their income, their employment status as well and that needs to be timely measured because there are different payments that accrue to them because of that basis. there is also inconsistencies in the eligibility determination both for financial and nonfinancial data that need to be resolved. most of them we've closed it and in s

gao report is available online if he was want to check it out.bout whethert any of the democrats requested this study, no. the three compass group of requested the study are all republicans. the three congressman who requested the study are all republicans. in terms of this particular work it was requested by three republicans. host: king george, virginia is next. democrat. good morning. how many illegal aliens are here that overstated or visas and how many of those are incarcerated and what countries are most of them from? guest: as it relates to overstays gao has done a report on lisa overstays. to that.irect you i don't have that information in front of me. we do have a report. if you go to our website and you type in the search engine visa overstays you should be able to get that report to that came out about two or three years ago. and then the second question. host: countries where the folks come from. guest: the countries we have talked about. at federal and state the countries with the largest population of criminal aliens incarcerated in

in 1998, one of its students, gao yan, committed suicide. her friends and family said she took her life because she had been raped by her professor. he got off with a warning and was allowed to go on teaching. inspired by china's fledgling #metoo movement, a student posted an open letter calling for the e university to discloe details of its investigation into gao's suicide. she was promptly put under house arrest and told she was risking her university degree. manyny other studentnts expred solilidarity. the notice was quickly removed. a stain on the image of china's most famous university. also in beijing, #metoo in action. feminists have brought attention to renee's case. her ex-boyfriend tried to rape her in the underground garage of another university. she went to the police, but they were unwillingng to launch an investigation. the university even put pressure on renee's parents, so she wouldn't go public. renee: my father said to me, come home and listen to your university, otherwise they'll expel you. i asked him, why should they exp

the gao spells out its concerns in a new report just obtained by cnn. alex, what's it say?, we should also note the government accountability office is a nonpartisan watchdog that reports to congress. in this report that came out just around an hour ago, they say that the department of homeland security, which has been tasked with building this wall and specifically its subsidiary, the customs and border protection, is proceeding without key information on cost. as a result, they risk wasting some of the billions of dollars that have been allocated for this project. they say that cbp is looking at different infrastructure, looking at different locations without taking into consideration the cost. they're also ignoring some of the previous assets that are there, parts of the fence along that border that are already there, specifically in the rio grand grandevalley. as a result, some of those billions of dollars risk being wasted. john, i want to read part of the conclusion in this 50-page report put out by the gao today. it reads, dhs faces an increased risk that the border

. >>> trump administration not adequately -- the government accountability office, the gao says costs can vary considerably based on land costs and other factors. they say without more information there is increased risk that the wall will cost more than projected. the administration estimates it will cost $18 billion. >>> a comedian and group of broadway stars performed outside the white house to pro te-- pro the trump administration. >> donald who had a longelped to gathers the singers and musicians to protest. >> we hope to give you a nice little show and remind you your voice is important whether it is here or washington d.c. let your voice be heard. let the president know that we are alive, awake and we are woke. >> some of the performers included current and form are cast members. the president wasn't there. he is on a working vacation. >>> coming up here on today in the bay nbc bay area responds. >>> when it looks like a four figure airline ticket will go to waste one come tries to repurpose it. she needs our help. nbc bay area responds next. >>> first, happening now disney's n

gao not convinced that is happening. >> we don't even hear the president insisting any long hear theco will pay for the wall. he did throughout the campaign. >>> at least 12 people are killed, more than 60 people shot across the city of chicago over the weekend. another deadly weekend in chicago. we are going there. shocking story, indeed. >>> also, cnn goes inside one of the world's biggest motorcycle gatherings and talks to bikers about politics and president trump. you are going to see what happened. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey! oh, that's my robe. is it? when you switch to liberty mutual, you could save $782 on auto and home insurance. and still get great coverage for you and your family. call for a free quote today. you could save $782. liberty mutual insurance. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ are you one sneeze away from being voted out of the carpool? try zyrtec®. it's starts working hard at hour one. and works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. stick with zyrtec® and muddle no more®. i'm a small business,

that's assessment from the gao.ause the department hasn't fully completed a cost and construction analysis. so here's what we know. we know u.s. customs and border protection tested eight prototypes. president trump visited them back in march. said each design would work better than existing fencing. but the thing to know about this report, you have the government accountability office saying that dhs agrees with its recommendations, agrees with its assessment that there needs to be tougher scrutiny. that said, i got the statement from dhs late last night and read part of it to you, after years of investment in a border wall system, we experienced a roughly 90% reduction in apprehensions in san diego and yuma sectors and americans deserve a secure border that keeps america safe and this administration is doing so by constructing the first border wall in a decade. you see there a statement that talks about how border walls can be effective but really nothing that addresses the specific points brought up by the gao. t

there were another gao categories, tax on military and police faces, the second concerned undoubted humanthe killings of people who were suspected informants and we know of the burnings of one ethnic rakhine village. so we know there recession the human rights abuses committed on the human rights abuses committed on the part of them, but we know there is no comparison in terms of scale, brutality, number of victims, with the military‘s actions. it is incomparable. we are not excusing, we'd know that there were serious human rights violations for which the group responsible. but we know the group responsible. but we know the predominant responsibility lies with the burma military. you are very clear in the statement you made when this report was launched that criminal investigation and prosecution is warranted, you have enough evidence for that to happen. what an idea requires —— what now do you require the un security council, which is chaired by the british? the un security council is the first place responsibility lies under the un charter. it has the power to make a farrell to the inte

we do have a motion to continue this to the next gao committee. i would suggest that we continue it to the call of the chair because we have only one scheduled committee meeting in july, and we have a number of items for that meeting as well. >> you are the chair. i just want to make one point about the core employee issue, which is -- there was actually very good negotiations around that where i think the contractor community, the city departments all came together. so part of the reason to have these hearings and not make a vote today is to people can actually sink their teeth into it. i heard comments from a woman-owned business who was worried. the way it's written is at at least two. i actually think that the building trades and the contractors, both of whom are signatories, understood that this would actually get hammered out in the p.l.a. itself. i just want to put that on the table. it's not as onerous as it looks. >> it is my understanding that it's a minimum of two workers that's been reached an agreement by now, which will later get neg

they work very hard with gao, we work with a bunch of folks that you work with too. and an effort to find the solutions to one of the most troubling problems that are created, that's create by our broken immigration system. you're going to hear a fair amount almost like an echo over here when i give my opening statement. we've worked very closely on these issues and share a lot of the same views on these issues. this is the third psi hearing on this subject. i'm pleased that the two of us and our staffs were able to come to some consensus on how to do better by the vulnerable children we're going to be discussing here today. these children come to our country primarily from guatemala are, honduras and el salvador, as we know, to escape extreme poverty and, in many cases, unspeakable violence at home. some of which we have witnessed ourselves. too many cases, as subcommittee has repeatedly highlighted, we're failing in our responsibility to protect and properly care for those kids. a 2008 law enacted under former president george w. bush clearly places children who ar

. >> guest: i'm not super familiar with a lot of those things, since gao that the numbers have gone upgao continues to publish reports on this, i guess whenever i'm confronted with people who want to know about what the -- what my -- what judgment history should pass on regimes, american presidencies for controversial acts, i always ask myself in a very practical way, what noncontroversial acts, what things can we agree they did can we indict them for in terms of history without having to reach the things that there's no consensus over. for example, people sometimes ask me about bush the second and the world trade center and whether i think it was an inside job and without with regard to the conspiracy theories about it which io find them eye-glazingo think about. also as soon as i sit down to consider them, i think to myself, this is a man who spent trillions of dollars invading a country that unequivocally impureically was not involved in 9/11 whoseca affects are still being felt that destabilized the whole region that killed hundreds of thousands of people in iraq and then millions

why now for gao capital? funds as a whole have not been doing that well. of funds going into the sector. but we have been doing quite well. we have been focused on newer funds, smaller funds, and trade outside of the traditional u.s. markets or the traditional equities markets. quants still a hard sell? returns are limited. there's a black box element to them. how do you explain that the people? ultimately, returns sell themselves. if you look at bigger names or established names and they are not doing too well, maybe it will be harder for investors to say i want to put money into them. but for us, you look at our returns. there is the possibility to generate if you look a little bit harder, looking at newer funds the nobody is looking at or smaller funds which might be trafficking in markets that have low capacity. go forrs ultimately strategies or funds that will make money, especially in these times when the markets are very volatile and traditional have trouble making money. i see there is a trout strategy where this is based on 22% annualized return o

these are not my numbers but the gao says some kids get exemption that that isn't even communicated to the colleges $500 between $10,000 who does that benefit? so it really says to the kids drill drill drill on a bunch of things they will never use in life to look slightly better to the college admissions officer and what a horrible message. is that the message you want to get to middle school and high school to stop solving those problems creating interesting that you don't care about because you have to do test prep? really? that they pay attention to that and that shapes their values. because nothing other than making you look slightly better than the college application. >> so what can we learn from the casinos to find out the relevant of the probability which we use all the time with these lifestyle decisions versus algebra or trigonometry which we never use. >> and some people use that people have studied this about 15% of adults use basic elementary middle school math about half they also tell me they had to relearn that. so a great project based engineering college using the ph

our campaign in '68 with nixon, we studied '60, teddy white's book, how nixon overdid it, ran himself gao the ground, so did jack kennedy. we would bring him to new hampshire for two or three days, fly him down to key biscayne where he could relax with bibi rabozo. that event at st. anselm, we were whipping everything to come out and look how many came out voluntarily, et cetera. but we had a terrific crowd, 3,000 people. that was the kind of event nixon wanted to do. >> and barbara perry, that exchange with a world war i veteran and he makes mention of vietnam, clearly that was the driving issue of 1968. can you explain what was going on here in this country, how americans were viewing the war, and why they were turning against president johnson? >> we mentioned the tet offensive, that was in january of 1968. i'm glad there are no videos of me from 1968. but i will say that i was a 12-year-old in the sixth grade. my brother was ten years older than i and graduating from college, small catholic college in louisville where we grew up that spring. he was told by the draft board, you'll grad

society, academia, users and governments the government driven forums like oecd, g7 come g20 and debbie gao allow people to come together to address important internet policy issues including security, economic development and trade but russia, china and iran use these forums to push for agendas that speech, restrict free markets. that's why the us and our allies need to maintain our leadership to preserve and defense democratic principles. free and open internet is in our common interest. the internet started in the united states. it is intertwined with the fabric of our daily lives from basic activities like checking the weather to exercising our fundamental civic rights and democratic values. that's why we have to show up and lead these forums, and to continue to be the indispensable nation. this is generally true for international policy issues that is especially true for the governance of the global internet. unfortunately, our leadership is being jeopardized by this administration. master secretary tillerson's eliminated the cybersecurity coordinator role and demoted its responsibilit

to our june 27 hearing where we really explored the gao report on overpayments, primarily medicaid, $37 billion, and we

you can read more on that report in the gao website.ma, on the line for those who say it is not a referendum. caller: i have a nuanced opinion. host: we can do nuance. caller: i believe the democrats will take the house and the publicans -- the republicans will take the senate. 2016, here is what i want. when they take back the house, they will start impeachment immediately. there will not be success in the senate. --t will cause republicans we do not do like they do. we don't get mad about everything being a five-alarm fire since he was elected. everything can be a five-alarm fire. if robert mueller comes out with something, we need to see that. i don't think he will. when they start impeachment proceedings, we will rise up again like we did to get him voted in. host: bring me to 2018 and you going to the polls in three months. are you going out because of your support for donald trump or is there a local issue driving you out? caller: i believe -- number 1 -- i'm not happy with doug jones, joined to compare that special election to an