we managed gao accordingly. we've had had outside experts come in and take a look at our system and so i think we're in pretty good shape as good as anybody can be. you're not going to be at zero risk. but we've been very fortunate and so i'm -- it's always a top priority for us. part of our budget request is to continue to update it. you got to keep working on it. the threats evolve and change. i still don't believe the federal government's operating at a pace commensurate with the evolving grave threats. this will get worse with quantum computing et cetera. that's why we have our new science and technology group focused on, too, looking at the future aspects of this issue. we also have a responsibility to look at cyber and electronic threats to the congress. and to report to a number of committees. we do. that from time to time were brought in to look at congress's own operations with regard to cybersecurity to give technical advice. we have a great group of experts in cybersecurity. we are doing more and more

we are doing a risk-based planning effort in gao. and in those areas, we do additional resources of additional legislative package regarding infrastructure down the road, budget request was based upon what we knew was on the horizon, a lot of developments occurred, won't be shy about asking good for them. what is the capability of the agencies to spend this money, done in a manner going where it needs to go. >> there's capabilities with congress has to be capable, the responsibilities they have like getting new programs and restaurant programs. they were unable to pass audit this past year, they couldn't support the figures for the loan programs and other issues. other agencies are better positioned to do this. a lot depends how it gets distributed whether through state and local governments, contracting or other means. there are a lot of well-established programs that could handle it without a big effort if you will to set up the system. effectively and efficiently. it could be executed. >> don't need to comment further on it but my

while the gao mentions a few reports of real housing then for 1990. i believe they need more attention than that and more request to provide with the report with the recommendations of how to address that infrastructure shortfall. moving forward how are these communities accounted for in the gao report? >> we do our route work in response to three different ways, senator. so that is the requirement of the committee report and with the ranking members of committees and she both the pesame. and then to identify those areas and then to initiate work of the federal funds and then we have done more work recently on indian tribes and we identified and with that healthcare area and lack of support and i'm happy to take a look at this issue but we have a challenge under the resource levels for all the request from congress. so in that fashion that i mentioned is a primary means of focusing. >> asking the gao to make recommendations of how federal land management agencies can improve the federal firefighting workforce? they are embracing for a historic wildfir

victor gao in beijing, welcome to hardtalk. thank you very much for having me.00th anniversary of the chinese communist party. would you agree that perhaps that's more a recognition of the party's devotion to raw power than it is to ideological purity? well, i think china is celebrating the centenary of the founding of the communist party of china, the biggest, largest, most important political party ever in human history, with almost 100 million party members. and the party is, indeed, invasive. it's omnipotent and omnipresent. however, i would say if any political force anywhere in the world really has some justification to be very proud of its achievements, it is the communist party of china. it has very solid track records. and i think this celebration is not only celebrating the communist party of china, but also the great transformation that china has gone through over the past a245 years in particular, or ever since 1949. this is not a celebration of the power grip. this is truly a good occasion for everyone to celebrate why we are the chinese today, and

when the gao made recommendations with respect of the department capitol police, they were not followed either. many of the shortcomings we will hear about today could and should have been nobody before january 6. henry six, the day of the insurrection congress should form a bipartisan to do so. doing so would provide an important way if not just congress but the american people the unvarnished proof of what happened not just that day but leading up to the attack. the day of our last hearing on the events of january 6, a house voted such a commission and several thousand repugnance voted for that measure. unfortunately, senate republicans walked the legislation. one republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell personally lobbied with token senators, asking them to post a bipartisan commission to get the truth of the attacks as a personal favor. subsequently clearly i did present senate republicans did not vote to form the commission. this is both disappointing and unfortunately, unsurprising. since our last hearing, we continue to learn more about the attacks including actions of t

so we have a gao report, including 32 recommendations for actions, the gao just testified they hope is sort of a blueprint for action. is there a plan of action at d.o.d., with milestones that we can track your progress on implementing gao's recommendations? >> thank you for the question. we actually had started implementing some -- some of the recommendations before they were even reported, if you will. so they have made some progress on some. and are actually getting close to fruition. currently working on others. we would be happy to provide you a -- kind of a status, if you will, at a later time. >> that would be helpful. and i assume you then -- that process of tracking and implementation want standardized across the services? >> we working on standardizing across the services, yes, sir. it is a challenge, as you know, but we are working on it. >> i am not sure who to direct this to. miss barron, maybe you can help me. how do you maintain contact with the victims that you serve so that you know your programs are hitting the mark? and give feedback by the community most affected by

with the statutory requirement explain why we don't have a picture from dod as reported by a gao? a great question i received a briefing when i got here january 2021 i have personally committed this solution and me have started on some of the procedures to get this done will be happy to inform your staff later. >> we will stay on this because we need data and will require another meeting with you in the next couple of months this is unacceptable so the only service not fully implemented the risk process required by law all other services adopted 2014. and they keep asking for extensions i find that unacceptable. >> . >> yes we are meeting but i do wantin to say with a comprehensive study. >> we are interested in more studies. this is required by law you should be setting this up and should be populated by required by law but medical professionals and others as a service. why is thereit another study? >> it was completed we drafted the policy is now waiting for final approval and we provide quarterly updates so that transition too manyy installation and with the majority 70 percent

the gao's report is something we are going to follow very closely. it is not good enough to say we are studying it. we need to see consistency, data that is consistent and every one of you should be prepared to answer the question miss houlahan asked, that it is worth in the military than in civilian population and the answer is yes. that should increase our interests in trying to solve it and with that we stand adjourned. .. >> we powered a new reality, because at mediacom, we're built to keep you ahead. >> mediacom, along with these companies, supports booktv on c-span2 as a public service. ♪ >> booktv on c-span2 starts now, 48 hours of nonfiction authors and books. television for serious readers. here are some programs to look out for. tonight on our weekly author interview program "after words," alex marlowe argues that the mainstream media has destroyed it own credibility, and tomorrow, carol anderson contends that the second amendment was designed in a way that denies the gun rights of african-americans. and a historian looks at john glenn's 19

the gao report indicated 2100 incidences, between 2015 and 2019 met with d.o.d. criteria for severe, underscore severe, physical abuse. yeah, and 43% of these cases, command took no action against the abuser. installation officials told gao that in some cases, commanders look the other way because they are too focused on how the incident will affect abusers career, or the commands operational meade. and not the victims need or the need to hold the abuser accountable. there's a conflict of interest here that we've seen for years in the sexual assault hurry up. with lower level commanders are conflicted and unwilling to take decisive action against service members, who engage in severe physical abuse and why should his commission be elevated to oh six or higher? and i have your response? colonel lewis? >> yes, thank you madam chairwoman. we do acknowledge the findings of the gao and looking at put decisions that we do look forward to working with the o.j. and reviewing that and it's premature for me to bring for policy recommendations without having review that foo

recommendations and getting the leasing segment off of the gao high risk list. but there are more that are left. my interest wouldan be sitting down with the gao to talk about how we can implement w some of these recommendations and, frankly, understanding what the blockers have been to [ getting that doneom sooner. >> there's a woman, who when i was t privileged to chair this committee, there was ahi woman o was the deputy secretary of homeland security. that's when we wereon wasting money, badly managed, bad morale. and she would go meet with jean and the team at gao literally every month and say, how do we get off your high risk list. and they would literally go through the list and it was a general approach, but a very deliberate o approach. you know what? they got off the high risk list before the end of that administration. it actually worked. so i would like to see more of that, so i would urge you, if you don't know gene already, get to know him. he and his team do good work. >> thank you. >> and jen easterly, we're proud of your history and service. two

in this report gao recommended 14 action directly to fema on how to improve this program. so mr. secretary, my question to you today is can you provide a status update on the department work to publication dash to -- t those recognition of jailed? >> thank you very much. i'm familiar with the program. familiar with the gao report and i will circle back with your office to provide you with the status of our actions in response to the 14 recommendations. i know one of the primary reasons why the assistance rate is what it is is because one of the thresholds that must be met is the inadequacy or the lack of insurance coverage. and, in fact, people who do have insurance and to recovers insurance proceeds in response to disaster may not be eligible for thehe individual assistance under the fema grant program. i'm also very well aware of the concerns with respect to clarity and transparency in terms of the eligibility criteria and making sure the publicki understands wt the assistance program is for and when its resources can be triggered. it's something we are very focused upon becaus

has omb responded to the gao we believe gao has communicated they provided timely responses.t is something i am proud that will continue as a trend. >> appreciate that. can you share with omb provided to gao? >> yes we understand i believe this committee asks for the gao requested it. pending any concerns from gao over happy to provide that information to the committee print >> okay thank you. increased funding the realty budget is somewhat flat we seek to move we seek a cancellation rather find technology other items in g doa and hhs we believe would have more efficientow process. imagine border security is not mentioned i heard congresswoman would look to the budget summary. we mentioned border security. numerous sections of the budget, 861 million total for security economic support is one of the areas we are fighting to deal through causes of migration that does impact our border. >> okay, would you speak to the number of beds there to fund? >> yes the same amount congress passed on a bipartisan basis i believe so confirm with staff show 34000 last year seeing the numbers

can you share what i would be provided to gao? >> we understand, i believe this committee asked for the report and gao requested it. pending any concerns or gao we are happy to provide that information to the committee. >> okay, thank you. can you talk about the percentage increase in the president's budget for homeland security funding for fy 22? >> yes. the overall budget is relatively flat. we seek to move border wall funding. we seek cancellation. and would rather fund technology. and migrant services and other items in d.o.j. and hhs we believe would improve the asylum system, how people got there faster. have a more efficient process. >> in fact, despite these different items you are mentioning, border security is not mentioned in the budget plan is that correct? >> i heard of congressman speak about the budgets larger than 72 pages. maybe look at the budget summary we have to mention border security. we talk about every government program in our budget document. >> you are speaking of support border security for other count

in fact happened around 150 kilometers north of gao, where german troops stationed at comcast dot that part of the united nations peacekeeping mission. in molly the un peacekeeping mission minus smile has released a statement on the attack by a twitter. it says this morning, a minus my temporary operational base near the village of each a gara intaquant called you and gal region was the target of a cob. on the top 15 blue helmets were injured. the other question is on the way slash in progress. that's go straight, superimposed thomas, he's a journalist in situ, in molly, what can you tell us? what do you know about this attack? why does you said in your introduction, the talk to place about a 150 kilometers from go, which is in the extreme ne molly about a 1000 kilometers from the capital bama girl near a place called almost that up, which is home to a temporary base actually bought a permanent base, it was a temporary placement of my b u and these people operation and molly established to recover a vehicle that have been lost to a previous attack in the same area. this is where the at

that's not just best practices that any gao report if you pull up on training, they'll tell you they have separation of duties so these aren't something that's new that we're just -- we thought this was a great idea. these are long standing best practices. you have got to have a centralized training. they handle the training. and when you run into -- it's the old thing the tail wagging the dog. the department should establish what is the mission goals, we'll take cert for instance. what is their mission goals, what skill sets do we need them to complete this goal? what are our expectations, what can and can't they do? they should formulate that and do a study and formulate a detailed mission goal. once you have done that, then you send it over to the office of training. they develop the training. they track the training. they bring in your subject matter expert. they conduct and monitor a all of the training. and then they have a clear understanding of what their mission is. so does the department. >> do you think the department needs a stand alone counterintelligence entity? >> a co

gao assured redfield this was not a human disease, it didn't pass between people, even though chinesey at that time. redfield offered to send a team to china, and the chinese authorities wouldn't let us in. had americans gone on, a team of cdc specialists, they would have found out that not only was it transmissible between people, that it was transmissible through asymptomatic infection. that was something that we weren't prepared for at all. so we didn't know that. the other thing that was a fiasco was the cdc testing. it took five weeks. and then when they finally released the test, they knew even when it went out the door that 30% of the time it would fail. and so it had to be recalled and reconfigured. that set us back and we never caught up to the test . finally we had one last swing of the bat. that was a mask and that came in april. when the president rolled out the mask idea at the council of his public health people, he said, you know, i've been told that masks work, they prevent the spread of the disease, and you can wear it. i'm not going to wear it, but you can wear it. s

yesterday's hearing i attended with the gao has produced a report in 2017 outlining changes for within the board. >> right, and do you think that we should consider reforms to the board? >> everything should be considered. >> all right. the capitol police board is now conducting a search for the next capitol police chief who will face the major tasks of responding to breakdowns that occurred on january 6th and rebuilding trust in departmental leadership among officers. based on your work so far, what do you think should be the top priorities for finding the next capitol police chief? >> i'm not involved in the selection of the chief obviously so i'll speak on a high level. it should be an individual that not only is schooled within law enforcement, but a high level executive with the education and the skill set also as a protective person with the knowledge of protective agencies, force protection if you want to call it, someone with that kind of level that is also very aware and understanding how important training really is, and not to give lip service to training, and to coordinate

has omb responded to the gao with requested information?e have in gao communicated to the on - - the committee there were timely responses and that is something i am proud will continue as a trend. >> can you share what i would be provided to gao? >> we understand i believe this committee asked for the report in gao requested that pending any concerns we are happy to provide that information to the committee. >> thank you talk about the percentage increase for homeland security funding fy 22. >> it is an overall budget relatively flat that we seek to move border wall funding and seek a cancellation and would rather find technology and migrant services and other items with doj and hhs that has people go through faster with a more efficient process. >> despite these different items your mentioning border security is not mentioned in the budget plan. >> the budget is larger than 72 pages looking at the budget summary bed of course we do have board border security with every government program in the budget document. >> you are speaking of supp

in response to the gao probe, the secretary of the air force directed a comprehensive search for recordsobjective of the search was to tell the congress and the american people what the air force knew about the 1947 roswell claims. if the information was still classified, it was to be declassified. if active or former air force officials had signed nondisclosure agreements, they were to be released from these agreements. the resulting 800-page report was completed in july 1994. the report concluded that the predecessor to the u.s. air force, the u.s. army air forces, did recover material near roswell in july 1947. what was recovered was not the remains of an extraterrestrial spacecraft and its alien crew, but debris from a then-classified army air forces research project codenamed mogul. [explosion] begun in 1946, project mogul was a top-secret attempt to acoustically detect suspected soviet nuclear explosions and ballistic missile launches. the project was accorded the highest priority because it addressed the most important postwar national defense concern, development of an early warn

but i wanted to really quickly ask about the gao study on accountability. what role do all of you think the extensive reliance on temporary personnel, which as of mid-2020, i believe it represented 70% of the usdi workforce as well as contractors who represento about 51% of the office's wurxforce, plays in the shortcomings noted in the gao study? >> i haven't had an opportunity yet to really delve into that. i'm aware of it, and i think it's h a challenge. one of the things that we have already highlighted this morning is it really is in the talent of our people and the continuity of their expertise that really enables us to get things done. so if we're having to rely on temporary talent or talent that may be somewhat transitory, that impacts us. so what we want to do is to look the cadre we have, to look at how we're augmenting that cadre today, howha we capture information so there are tools that can help us capture naj and capture information, and theno how do we have that knowledge repeatable so that regardless of who is here, we need a core, but wewe c

and the director of the chinese cdc, gao fu later revealed that none of the animal samples taken fromitive for the virus either. adding at the beginning we presumed that the seafood market may have the novel coronavirus, but now it turns out that the market is one of the victims. they had hoped that they would find the host animal at that market, and that's not what they found. what we know now is that the virus was likely spreading in the city before it was detected. the wet market was actually the accelerating agent for the virus and not the initial spark. >> the search for the virus' origin continued. investigators, including some inside the u.s. intelligence community started focusing on a building a few miles from the wet market, the wuhan institute of virology. jamie metzl is a member of the world health organization's expert committee on human genome editing, and like many others, he has long been concerned about the research that was taking place at the wuhan institute. >> they were doing what some people have called gain of function research, seeing how the world's scariest v

were wasting money, [inaudible] the secretary for janet napolitano would go meet with the team at the gaoiterally every month and say how do we get off the high risk list and they would just literally go through the list. it was a very personal approach but very deliberate and you know what, they got off the high risk list before the end of the administration so i would like to say i know it works and do more of that and urge you [inaudible] proud of your history and service not many people i know can claim that. but i was going through your statement and came across something. the cochair if you will of the 9/11 commission. i think you mentioned a quote from him he said former governor. for a considerable period of time this was a policy that above all was a failure of imagination. that is his quote from the cochair of the 9/11 commission the republican from new jersey. and i want to ensure the country is adequately addressing the magnitude and severity of the attacks we are grappling with today and i would ask you how would you propose to work to improve the nation's cyber posture and t

now let's go to beijing to speak to the vice president of the center, china and globalization gao to hear what china makes of it makes it thanks so much for coming back on why. why a chinese authorities so angry about us, u. k. secret intelligence agencies telling journalistic co we'd comes from a woo and lab labs. well, 1st of all, to trace the real origin of colby 19 adamic. we need to put science 1st and exclude all the conspiracy appear events. and then there is a process headed by the w h. o channel. cooperated with rachel from the very beginning when the panoramic was discovered in han and also grew fuel stuff is an investigation stand by the rachel scientist, men from actually our american scientists. so let's follow the process rather than allow conspiracy theories to gain the upper head. crother allow me to make up because i think when you build up a global corporate 19 chronology, because now we know for sure that before the outbreak in han with the benefit of hindsight they will discover is all the pharisee and many other parts of the world . the japan, for example, in ita

first question, 2020 gao report shows certain demographic groups and challenges within the community, know if you could be specific about your plans for first and second generation americans, especially women and people of color. >> make you very much. i mentioned in my opening remarks, this, as you know, the demographic of our country are changing. we have to recruit our best, brightest, we have to recruit individuals who bring fresh perspectives and we have to be inclusive in all that we do. we also have to work globally and to work globally, we have to look like individuals around the globe so our goal to emphasize, secretary has made this one of his priorities and he talks about the same terms the president talks about, we want to ensure that we have that workforce not only nearing what america looks like but can help us do what we need to do. i plan to focus on this, it will be one of my priorities. what i will do is make myself visible but also hold individual's accountable. what we have found throughout the years, as things get done, we set standards and then hold individuals a

the gao study found that black servicemembers across all services, more than one.five times likely to be on court-martial for the same conduct as white servicemembers. there is a general failure on the part of commanders with a broad discretion of court-martial why are they feeling black servicemembers who at higher rates than any other demographic group? do we fix the system so there is truly justice under the code of military justice that does not exist today? >> this is an important issue in detail study so the point that i made earlier to make the right representation and senior ranks contributes to make this issue better to improve this issue. >> i will follow up on that point there is a correlation, i believe between the lack of diversity and continued leadership in command physicians and the disproportionately high rate of court-martial of black and brown service members. racial bias exists from the criminal justice system and then brought to greater public attention. and with that same racial bias. and then to existent military justice system. >> and then recognized for five m

the attack happening around 155 kilometers north of gao, where their troops are stationed at cam caster as part of a united nations peacekeeping mission in the west african country. and for more or less bring in the w west africa correspondence, fred maloney, joining us with the view from blake us. fred, tell us what more do we know about this attack? now at this early stage, we know that the un peacekeepers well on the pod troy, you know, done mighty in go go. and this is region which is known to be regional terrorists. several, you had these to put it in the region and why their way on, on this operation. that way, you know, they, for, in, in the bush on february. so it does, as you mentioned, a couple of them where we're in judge, and this is actually one of one of the biggest talks on un peacekeepers a 15 specifically in german soldiers in the region. thank you so much pride and i'm going to let you hop off now to do a little bit more reporting on the situation there on the ground. fred mooney, d w, west africa corresponded. thank you. and she political correspond that melinda crane

significant and most important recommendations, recommend that congress commission a corporation study and gao study legacy platforms, make recommendations of what legacy platforms are integrated, updated and we should eliminate from a budgetary perspective so we can pull resources from those platforms to these emerging technologies in artificial intelligence and other technologies we need to develop as well so that's where the task force is most significant and we made recommendations on how we can develop recognizing that china leads the way with stem graduate in the u.s. falls wake behind. 2.6 million stem graduates india, 4.7 million graduates in the u.s. and 560,000 graduates currently so we fall way behind to make recommendations on how we can foster and count here in these emerging technologies. >> drawing attention to this, it really is groundbreaking as you mentioned and bipartisan which has got to be at the core of the purpose of the forum. given an interesting time with the illusion of the covered pandemic and it's a devastating time and help us for should help us reconceptualize wh

study, we are 31% -- gao study, seeing that minorities were 31% to 40% slightly to be promoted, it is cause for significant concern. partially it is a recruitment issue. i think raising the profile of the recruitment that we are doing at historical black colleges and universities and other minority serving institutions, it is sitting down with the hispanic caucus and congressional black caucus. i talked to congressman meeks about this a day or two ago. how do we get the word out that we want to recruit starting early in high schools, colleges, and graduate schools? if you wait until graduate school, you are likely not going to be able to really plumb the pool, so we have to start earlier and we need to do more. retaining has been a challenge, and that is about culture and promotion and other methods like that. so i count on you to hold me accountable. i will hold myself accountable. we are digging into the metrics now and trying to set reasonable goals. a barrier analysis is where i want to start to understand what is standing in the rep. lee: thank you very much. maybe we will have a

as the gao report published they found the role restoring the cap telecommunications networks remainsnclear. this has post-disaster situations how to allocate resources such as generators and fuel. congress alone can result in creating clear priorities and lines of authority. none of this returns to the days of the monopoly network to the contrary competition among the networks creates much-needed redundancy in small and rural markets that cannot support competition we should be willing to invest money to create the needed level of redundancy. congress is a tremendous opportunity to resolve these issues and restore resilience and reliability to the critical communications infrastructure. both of the wireline and wireless networks have significant upgrades. legacy carriers have their copper networks and wireless providers are shutting off their networks and deploying. states and congress are currently debating how to closeg the digital divide and bring affordable high-speed broadband to all americans. legislation providing the necessary reliability framework and resources can ensure th

and after coming out of a pandemic we certainly know how important that is according to a june 2020 gaoeport half of the districts in this country need to replace multiple building systems. 41 percent said we know coming through a pandemic how dangerous when you spread germs can be or to make sure so how will the department address the children and the parents they are going into a safe school? >> in my experience in connecticut ventilation on my radar was put there very early and be recognized in the almost daily meetings that wefe had we have to include osha officials and whose job it is to look at occupational safety and i can assure you moving forward educators across the country are taking intoov account air quality, to make sure the systemm in many cases have been neglected, received the proper maintenance and upgrades that they need to circulate air to make sure schools are safe for our educators so in the covid-19 handbook, the second one we have guidance on best practices and what districts should be doing there are funds in the plans of k-12 infrastructure of the american jobs

or important recommendations, we recommend congress commission corporation study in combination with gaorecommendations to congress for what legacy platforms are outdated, that we should eliminate from a budgetary perspective so we can resources from those platforms to these emerging technologies for artificial intelligence and other technologies we need to develop as well so that is where it's most significant. we made recommendations on how we can develop stem talent recognizing china leads the way with stem graduates and the u.s. falls way behind, 2.6 million stem graduates in india, 4.7 million in china and the u.s. we have 560,000 stem graduates so we fall way behind recommendations on how we can foster and nurture the talent here at home to develop these emerging technologies. >> i love that your drawing attention to this because it really is ground breaking and also a partisan which has to be at the core, a legacy, given that we are in an interesting time with the evolution of the covered pandemic and the last year has been a devastating time for our country, it also i think helps

gao started to cry. i think we're too late he told redfield. we're too late.ow less catastrophic would this pandemic be if china had been transparent at the begi beginning? >> it could have made a huge difference. they never disclosed the virus circulating the that's something taijuan discovered. if they had been forthright transparent, if they had allowed international authorities in for instance when redfield asked to send a cdc team, the chinese authorities wouldn't let them in. had they done so they would have foundwas spread asymptomatically. we didn't know those things. >> thank you so much. i'll read anything you write. i read your fiction book at the worst time of the pandemic but i thought it was incredible how everything you said was. i appreciate having you, thanks. >> thanks, erin. >> thanks to all of you. anderson starts now. > >>>. >>> breaking news on a break down in the infrastructure lane. john berman in for anderson. weeks of talks beginning a bipartisan deal on infrastructure have ended. president biden pulled the plug on negotiations with a

we work closely with them, meet weekly with them, meet biweekly with the gao, and we instituted throughtion team that i work with and the omb heightened reviews that go for every new plan. so of course nothing is going to be perfect when you are instituting brand new plans. but i think overall there's a tremendous commitment on oversight, and for the american rescue plan there's the pandemic responsibility, accountability committee, which has oversight authority, the omb and our team does significant reviews of the program and we try to work in almost historic way with the oversight community, and if things go wrong, president biden's view is we want to be the first to know so we can correct and fix them. many of the worst problems that happen on ui fraud, on the ppp, on small businesses happened at the start of the pandemic. we are trying to learn lessons from that, institute what we believe are strong oversight and accountability provisions to make sure this money is getting to the american families and small businesses that the american people intended it to get to. >> and it is not