. >> guest: garamond stuff was a soviet russian general in the general staff and the doctrine in short is, it was crystallized in something he wrote tweet 7 years ago, that all warfare is based on deception and all warfare in the future will be decided by information. by information warfare we mean propaganda, misinformation and the control of cyberoperations that can distort what you perceive. the ability of the russian cybercommanders, their trolls, their social media puppets, to get inside the head of the president of the united states and senior republicans in congress and get them to dance to a russian tune, one of the most remarkable achievements in history of intelligence operations. we don't know the half of it. >> host: what did this book teach you about what us intelligence needs to be doing better? if you were going to be sitting down with a new cia director or a new director of national intelligence, what advice would you give them out of this book about what we have done well or not well? >> host: the next president of the united states, if there is one, will have to pick