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gareth lee spoke of his disappointment at the turnaround. i paid my money.e beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. northern ireland is the only part of the uk which has not introduced same—sex marriage. the so—called gay cake case has been watched closely in belfast, where there have been protests from those on both sides of this debate. i'm so glad today that ashers has won the case and that takes a lot... i'm sure it was a lot of pressure on them. i feel personally offended and i feel that the lgbt community would be offended also. the supreme courtjudges said that the conclusions reached today were not intended to diminish the need to protect people who are gay from discrimination, saying it would be an affront to human dignity to refuse someone a service based on their sexual orientation. but that that was not what had happened in this case. instead, said the court, it was the bakery‘s right not to print a message with which they disagreed. and this could be a taste of
gareth lee spoke of his disappointment at the turnaround. i paid my money.e beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. northern ireland is the only part of the uk which has not introduced same—sex marriage. the so—called gay cake case has been watched closely in belfast, where there have been protests from those on both sides of this debate. i'm so glad today that ashers has won the case and that takes a...
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gareth lee spoke of his disappointment at the turnaround. i paid my money.d, based upon the beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen, and the judgement today tells me that that's ok. northern ireland is the only part of the uk which has not introduced same—sex marriage. the so—called gay cake case has been watched closely in belfast, where there have been protests from those on both sides of this debate. i'm so glad today that ashers has won the case, and that takes a lot — i'm sure it was a lot of pressure on them. i feel personally offended, and i feel that the lgbt community would be offended also. the supreme courtjudges said that the conclusions reached today were not intended to diminish the need to protect people who are gay from discrimination, saying it would be an affront to human dignity to refuse someone a service based on their sexual orientation, but that that was not what had happened in this case. instead, said the court, it was the bakery‘s right not to print a message with which they disagreed. and this
gareth lee spoke of his disappointment at the turnaround. i paid my money.d, based upon the beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen, and the judgement today tells me that that's ok. northern ireland is the only part of the uk which has not introduced same—sex marriage. the so—called gay cake case has been watched closely in belfast, where there have been protests from those on both sides of this debate. i'm so glad today that ashers has won the case,...
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gareth lee spoke of his disappointment at the turnaround. i paid my money.en a few days later it was refused, based upon the beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. northern ireland is the only part of the uk which has not introduced same—sex marriage. the so—called gay cake case has been watched closely in belfast, where there have been protests from those on both sides of this debate. i'm so glad today that ashers has won the case and that takes a lot... i'm sure it was a lot of pressure on them. i feel personally offended and i feel that the lgbt community would be offended also. the supreme courtjudges said that the conclusions reached today were not intended to diminish the need to protect people who are gay from discrimination, saying it would be an affront to human dignity to refuse someone a service based on their sexual orientation. but that that was not what had happened in this case. instead, said the court, it was the bakery‘s right not to print a message with w
gareth lee spoke of his disappointment at the turnaround. i paid my money.en a few days later it was refused, based upon the beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. northern ireland is the only part of the uk which has not introduced same—sex marriage. the so—called gay cake case has been watched closely in belfast, where there have been protests from those on both sides of this debate. i'm so glad today...
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i can answer that very factually. -- gareth lee's case. we we re factually. -- gareth lee's case.o be clear. we don‘t go looking for places. year, thousand 500 people believe they how discriminate it against. 40% are disability related. we ta ke against. 40% are disability related. we take a few arts that are strategically importance. less than 296 strategically importance. less than 2% of those relate to lgbt. a customer was looking for a service. he happened to be a gay man and this happen to be a company with a christian directorate on it. it could have been something else. it could have been something else. it could have been a political opinion. from the particular circumstances here, extrapolate that to all of us who are walking into shops. the country that i was brought up in, we knew shocks we could knew places where perhaps it wasn‘t kosher for us to be able to have a job. the equality legislation came in. it was ha rd equality legislation came in. it was hard fought and its covert and overt discrimination was not acceptable and people need to know where they stand when t
i can answer that very factually. -- gareth lee's case. we we re factually. -- gareth lee's case.o be clear. we don‘t go looking for places. year, thousand 500 people believe they how discriminate it against. 40% are disability related. we ta ke against. 40% are disability related. we take a few arts that are strategically importance. less than 296 strategically importance. less than 2% of those relate to lgbt. a customer was looking for a service. he happened to be a gay man and this happen...
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it is about discrimination and it is about whether the discrimination was discriminating against gareth lee court found it wasn't discrimination against mr lee as an individual, the whole case revolved around the message, support gay marriage. in effect, orthe around the message, support gay marriage. in effect, or the court found, the archbishop of canterbury had gone into that shop and asked for the cake that is iced with those words, they would have been treated in exactly the same way. so, there was no discrimination against mr lee isa was no discrimination against mr lee is a person. the company made clear they have gay customers and they employ gay people. there was an interesting argument here that was put forward on behalf of gareth lee, you couldn't this associate the way he was treated with the fact he was 93v- he was treated with the fact he was gay. here again, the court found the word, support gay marriage they are not limited to gay or bisexual couples. their relatives, friends, members of the wider community also support that so there was no discrimination against mr lee as a
it is about discrimination and it is about whether the discrimination was discriminating against gareth lee court found it wasn't discrimination against mr lee as an individual, the whole case revolved around the message, support gay marriage. in effect, orthe around the message, support gay marriage. in effect, or the court found, the archbishop of canterbury had gone into that shop and asked for the cake that is iced with those words, they would have been treated in exactly the same way. so,...
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what about the man himself, gareth lee, who wanted this ca ke himself, gareth lee, who wanted this cakeially now in northern ireland he feels as a gay man, he feels like a second—class citizen because of today's ruling, because you live somewhere where gay marriages and permitted. do you have sympathy with how he feels?” marriages and permitted. do you have sympathy with how he feels? i do, and of course i support the battle for marriage equality in northern ireland, as do 70% of the northern irish people. they want equal marriage, they want same—sex couples to be able to marry the person they love. but i don't believe there should be compulsion against those who disagree. it's about defending the rights and freedoms, even of those whose views i do not share. i would hope that they in retrospect would hope that they in retrospect would reciprocate. you have articulated your stance very clearly, but i wonder whether there is an element of this could send are taken confusing message. people trying to follow this story, two court saying it's wrong, care quality commission of the northern i
what about the man himself, gareth lee, who wanted this ca ke himself, gareth lee, who wanted this cakeially now in northern ireland he feels as a gay man, he feels like a second—class citizen because of today's ruling, because you live somewhere where gay marriages and permitted. do you have sympathy with how he feels?” marriages and permitted. do you have sympathy with how he feels? i do, and of course i support the battle for marriage equality in northern ireland, as do 70% of the...
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it's four years since gay—rights activist gareth lee walked into this belfast bakery to place an orderegal row over the extent to which businesses can refuse to promote political views. the cake was to be iced with the message support gay marriage. today the supreme court ruled that the ba kery‘s refusal to take supreme court ruled that the bakery‘s refusal to take the order did not amount to discrimination. this court has held that nobody should be forced to have our express political opinion in which he does not believe. the bakery's connors had previously been sued for discrimination and had lost their subsequent appeal. the decision of the uk's highest court to overturn a previous rulings marks a hard part vindication of their views. we did not turn down this order because of the person who made it but because of the message itself. thejudges have given a clear signal today, in fa ct, have given a clear signal today, in fact, it could not be more clear, family businesses like ours are free to focus on giving all their customers the best service they can, without being forced to pro
it's four years since gay—rights activist gareth lee walked into this belfast bakery to place an orderegal row over the extent to which businesses can refuse to promote political views. the cake was to be iced with the message support gay marriage. today the supreme court ruled that the ba kery‘s refusal to take supreme court ruled that the bakery‘s refusal to take the order did not amount to discrimination. this court has held that nobody should be forced to have our express political...
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gareth lee spoke of his disappointment at the turnaround. i paid my money.s taken, and then a few days later it was refused, based upon the beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen, and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. northern ireland is the only part of the uk which has not introduced same—sex marriage. the so—called gay cake case has been watched closely in belfast, where there have been protests from those on both sides of this debate. i'm so glad today that ashers has won the case and that takes a lot... i'm sure it was a lot of pressure on them. i feel personally offended, and i feel that the lgbt community would be offended also. the supreme courtjudges said that the conclusions reached today were not intended to diminish the need to protect people who are gay from discrimination, saying it would be an affront to human dignity to refuse someone a service based on their sexual orientation. but that that was not what had happened in this case. instead, said the court, it was the bakery‘s right not to print
gareth lee spoke of his disappointment at the turnaround. i paid my money.s taken, and then a few days later it was refused, based upon the beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen, and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. northern ireland is the only part of the uk which has not introduced same—sex marriage. the so—called gay cake case has been watched closely in belfast, where there have been protests from those on both sides of this debate....
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the customer who bought the cake, gay rights activist gareth lee, said the ruling made him feel likever about conscience or a statement. all i wanted was to order a cake in a shop that sold cakes to order. i paid my money. my money was taken and then a few days later it was refused, based upon the beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. i'm concerned not just for the implications for myself or other gay people, but for every single one of us, because do we have to guess when we go into a shop whether we're going to be served or not? thank you. indonesian officials say the search for victims of last month's earthquake and tsunami will end tomorrow — despite the fact thousands of people are still unaccounted for. the disaster struck sulawesi almost two weeks ago, with the city of palu worst affected. the official death toll is currently more than 2,000 — but around 5,000 people are still missing, feared dead. 0ur asia correspondent nick beake reports. after the horror, so many survivors fled without l
the customer who bought the cake, gay rights activist gareth lee, said the ruling made him feel likever about conscience or a statement. all i wanted was to order a cake in a shop that sold cakes to order. i paid my money. my money was taken and then a few days later it was refused, based upon the beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. i'm concerned not just for the implications for myself or other gay...
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the customer who bought the cake, gay rights activist gareth lee, said the ruling made him feel liken. to me, this was never about conscience or a statement. all i wanted was to order a cake in a shop that sold cakes to order. i paid my money. my money was taken and then a few days later it was refused, based upon the beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. i'm concerned not just for the implications for myself or other gay people, but for every single one of us, because do we have to guess when we go into a shop whether we're going to be served or not? thank you. thank you very much forjoining us. we have had his perspective and also the perspective of the owners of the bakery. they say it protects freedom of speech and freedom of conscience. what would you say? we are disappointed in the judgment. what would you say? we are disappointed in thejudgment. we what would you say? we are disappointed in the judgment. we are disappointed in the judgment. we are disappointed because we had to court in nor
the customer who bought the cake, gay rights activist gareth lee, said the ruling made him feel liken. to me, this was never about conscience or a statement. all i wanted was to order a cake in a shop that sold cakes to order. i paid my money. my money was taken and then a few days later it was refused, based upon the beliefs of the business owners. that made me feel like a second—class citizen and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. i'm concerned not just for the implications for...
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gareth lee spoke of his disappointment at the turnaround.ness owners. and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. introduced same—sex marriage. sides of this debate. i'm so glad today that ashers has won the case and that takes a lot... i'm sure it was a lot of pressure on them. would be offended also. on their sexual orientation. but that that was not what had happened in this case. not to print a message with which they disagreed. to refuse to promote political views in future. emma vardy, bbc news, at the supreme court. and the legal precedents it might set.
gareth lee spoke of his disappointment at the turnaround.ness owners. and the judgment today tells me that that's ok. introduced same—sex marriage. sides of this debate. i'm so glad today that ashers has won the case and that takes a lot... i'm sure it was a lot of pressure on them. would be offended also. on their sexual orientation. but that that was not what had happened in this case. not to print a message with which they disagreed. to refuse to promote political views in future. emma...