i am gary's wife. i know that is not allowed. >> sorry. >> i respectfully request. >> you can speak under rebuttal, if you want to. gary and his attorney want to give you some of the three minutes you can speak during the rebuttal. >> thank you. >> hi my name is joseph ferguson and i have known gary since 1970. i no longer live in san francisco, but i have a daughter who is going to turn 29 this saturday who lives here and she went to school here and now she is starting her career. the thing about gary as scott mentioned, gary and scott started the holy bagel when i was roommates with them in the late 1970s when i lived in san francisco. i watched him create a business that was really part of the community. he was very in tune with his neighbors, neighboring businesses and the rest of the community. when i think about the objections, i know people are concerned about business, other people that have shops that sell coffee in the morning down there. it seems to me, my experience with neighborhoods, if i

continuing coverage of super bowl 478 gary radnich will be joining us, next >> pam: gary radnich is hereuperable 47. >> there were still just 3 points short. and let me give you a hug.. it is difficult and who has been a star is will tran.. and with the live shots it looked really good. i become a will tran fanattic... >> and i thought that was coined to grab him if he did not want to speak with them but it was a beautiful shot. will tran we know about pam, grant, brian is my man but i think themv mvp definitely, it is will tran and let me show you some of these highlights. a difficult night if you want to play the game. and we might not back here again but the 49ers with colin kaepernick are going to be a good time. as long as harbaugh can stay settled and a brother jim and brother john it was good. if they wanted to play the family came with ed read. the first time 170 games that there was an interception. to the referees credit they let them play. the where not a play. flags. but people were getting upset. and i cannot say it enough. chris culliver had a difficult week. there is jones

>> gary: pam is just going to be getting in. you do not even answer the phone before 1:00 p.m. >> and that is not true! >> when she wakes up. when you hit it was before noon i call it. she sleeps in. >> we were cleat. and to get with the chickens with you-as we get up -- late and tweato sleep late -- [laughter] >> gary: jerry rice caught the last word. randy moss said this >> this is not about cherry and randy this is about super bowl. i am hoping that he is able to get the first victory. he probably could be a great player. but you have to have it here, in your heart. >> that is it too is this young lady. that is beyonce.. and people are saying that she was lip- synching. she sang the national anthem and then she said any questions? you will see her. joel pavelski steals the hockey puck wrister for the goal 2-0 sj the oilers would tie the game and then after a scoreless overtime dan boyle a chance to win itrandy hahn take it away sound full - boyle goal boyle wins the game in the shootout and the sharks win again final; 3-2 imp

ghairy - gari is it -- gary is right. he is just posturing.(talking all at once.) >> johnathon. >> that's the end of it. >> it is it like slippage per a retail store. china is trampling all over the america property rights for years going back to the boot leg dvd's and cd. a robber will never be rich stealing from those they -- >> jerry, bottom line you have a lot of individual companies like ping and private enterprizeses, it is it a huge market to obvious lie - obviously start with individual opportunity . putting in the appropriate updated fire walls and technology and it is it going to start at home to be able to protect and push back. is the administration going to do something? i am more concerned about the military technology that want chinese are geting from us and using against us and dealing wi our grid and natural resources and turning them around it is it the next front yir. it is cyber security. >> i hate to be china and up against you guys. i really appreciate it who said you are out of work? you can't still hit >> employers tell

economy so gary b, are these automatic cuts actually good? >> the best thing i think that could happen. you know, obama should go back to his purge on the billionaires saying they should give more. because in this case, brenda, for the past five years, the government has been the billionaires, during the first two years under the obama administration, discretionary spending increased 84%. it's toned down a little bit, thankfully, but even if you include hurricane sandy relief it's 30%. so we're talking about such a large space that this -- these cuts amount to one half of 1% of the gdp. so, brenda, the other question is, is it going to hurt the economy? bill clinton, who the democrats love and also admittedly some republicans cut discretionary spending from 22 to 18% of gdp and what happened in the economy? this is the way to kind of tighten the belt, i think is the best thing that could happen. >> some of the things are draconian. there are a lot of cuts that might be surprising and fbi agents and cuts in treatment to the mentally ill and cu

economy so gary b, are these automatic cuts actually good?> the best thing i think that could happen. you know, obama should go back to his purge on the billionaires saying they should give more. because in this case, brenda, for the past five years, the government has been the billionaires, during the first two years under the obama administration, discretionary spending increased 84%. it's toned down a little bit, thankfully, but even if you include hurricane sandy relief it's 30%. so we're talking about such a large space that this -- these cuts amount to one half of 1% of the gdp. so, brenda, the other question is, is it going to hurt the economy? bill clinton, who the democrats love and also admittedly some republicans cut discretionary spending from 22 to 18% of gdp and what happened in the economy? this is the way to kind of tighten the belt, i think is the best thing that could happen. >> some of the things are draconian. there are a lot of cuts that might be surprising and fbi agents and cuts in treatment to the mentally ill and cuts

when gary b was a teen-ager. and the big issue there is that he was the one who started the ball rolling and it said clearly you grow the economy by growing the economy. consumer confidence at this point, i don't buy the payroll tax as much as i say what's the next shoe going to drop? this idea of raising taxes and spending at the same time, people are starting to figure out it doesn't add up. >> jonas, there is a lot of debt out there. how can you take care of that mess without tax hikes and spending cuts? >> stackses are a lot lower than they were through jfk's administration for sure. look, i don't think anyone would argue gary's point that when you raise taxes, you cut spending and it hurts the economy. it's a drag on the economy. you are cutting into spending the people are doing, taking it and paying off our debt. however, a bigger drag on the economy, probably the only bigger drag is when a government basically goes broke because they can't pay their debt, like what happened in greece and ireland and other

here they are the bulls and bears this week, gary b smith. john layfield. jonas max ferris along with larry glazier and caroline. gary b, forget hiking the minimum wage, you say scrapping it altogether is how to get better paying jobs. >> states with the highest minimum wage in many cases, higher than the current minimum wage that the fed, federal government outlines has higher unemployment than those states with lower minimum wage. look, it's simple economics, something which this current administration doesn't understand. when you raise the cost of labor, you have a surplus of labor, that's true in comments, stocks, whatever. when you have a surplus of labor, what do you have, brenda? you have higher unemployment and simple as that, this administration doe't understand. >> so what do you think of that, caroline, would this help or hurt unemployment if we just got rid of the minimum wage? >> well, i think that would be a terrible idea and i disagree with gary b. actually those studies have experienced-- that's a relationship, other variables causing those

gary b, what do you say? >> well, you know, i think that everyone watching out there is concerned unless their last name is it maybe buffet or gates. this is not a temporary blip. we just saw the warning from wal-mart. we've seen concerns from burger king, from kraft. everyone's trying to adjust to this smaller consumer spending. why? because the consumer's worried about three things that have not changed one iota under this current administration, and do they have money in their pocket, do they have a job and is the value of of their house going up or down. money in their pocket. disposable income has flat lined since 2008. unemployment, when you talk about the u-6 number, the number that includes people that have given up has doubled since 2008 and the value of their home hasn't budged one iota since the year 2000. so, there's a lot of people underwater that bought at the height of that market. it's not good out there. i think it's getting worse. >> well, toby, actually, they might be feeling richer because

interview with gary gensler chairman of the c f.t.c. responsible for these libel or rigorous pervasive rate rigging so where we need to go is we need to go to something that is far better for the public they can't be so easily manipulated so are you suggesting the doing a way of life. i'm suggesting that any reference rate has to be based on facts and not be. fiction it has to be based on real transactions and the challenge here is banks are no longer essential the lending to each other so what is live for it's something that in the past banks were supposedly lending to each other but now they don't so again he doesn't understand basic concept the word is fraud it's the libel rate should be based on fact not fraud he says it should be based on fact not fiction fiction is not the same thing as fraud no not well but it is in this case the live our rate is just a rate they pull out of their butt to help in committing fraud gary gensler knows that he has admitted on several occasions but of course somebody somewhere is looking at a reflecti

>>> guaranteed winners in our "bulls & bears" super bowl predictions gary b? >> if i can't root for the redskins, i got to go with the ravens. i think they'll win. right there in ravens town of baltimore, price, i like financials, i think it's up dramatically by super bowl 14. >> jonas. >> i like financials. ets is eating their lunch. >> john, your prediction? >> i'm a dallas cowboy fans, which means i hate football apparently. i'm looking forward to the game tomorrow. i see the ravens will win. mason is based out of baltimore. the market taking off. good stock. could be up as much as 25, 30% in a year. >> toby? >> john b is the only person who played in the nfl, but he is right on the ravens, he's rock on the stock. >> jonas? >> 49ers and san francisco's own charles shah walk, good for -- schaub. >> gary b? >> i'm bearish. i she schwab is yesterday's news. >> tobin? >> tomorrow the raves are going to win. but the bigger issue is also under armor does benefits, so i like the ravens. >> john, do toby. >> i like his pick for the super bowl, but i think the stock

and here we have a libel or settling still not clean despite scandal so this is gary gensler chairman of the commodity futures trading commission one of the people one of the regulators overseeing live war rate setting in the bankers that control that he suggested that the library was often completely made up it had to be made up he said because of course there was no interbank lending so they just made up a number and then he said speaking of the scandal mr gensler spoke of pervasive rigging and said authorities could not guarantee the rate is fraud free but refused to criticize the f.s.a. or suggest that setting their rate should be moved to the united states yeah gary gensler well as name pops up over and over again doesn't you know he's part of these these are the regulatory side of the fraud of the five fingers of death you know got the rating agencies regulators the bankers the media etc you know he's part of regulating fraud so well comparing it again to this jury here in the u.k. they often they also asked you know can we use information not presented evidence not presented to

and here we have a libel or settling still not clean despite scandal so this is gary gensler chairman of the commodity futures trading commission one of the people one of the regulators overseeing live war rate setting in the bankers that control that he suggested that the library was often completely made up it had to be made up he said because of course there was no interbank lending so they just made up a number and then he said speaking of the scandal mr gensler spoke of pervasive rigging and said authorities could not guarantee the rate as fraud free but refused to criticize the f.s.a. or suggest that setting their rate should be moved to the united states yeah gary gensler well as name pops up over and over again doesn't you know he's part of these these are the regulatory side of the fraud of the five fingers of death you know got the rating agencies regulators the bankers the media etc you know he's part of regulating fraud so comparing it again to this jury here in the u.k. they often they also asked you know can we use information not presented evidence not presented to the

>> he said it matches gary dunn.per was left by nona's neighbor, gary dunn. now steffi needed to check out dunn's alibi for the day nona was killed. dunn had told police he was out shopping with his mother around the time of the murder, december 15th. that was his alibi. so steffi went looking for copies of receipts from those stores to back up the alibi. >> so this is the store where suppose lead gary dunn came to do some shopping. >> this was one of the places we had to check out in his alibi and the store had boxes and boxes of records of receipts. it was the old-fashioned sign the slip kind of receipt. >> he's not kidding. boxes going back years. steffi rooted through piles of forgotten paper. >> how many boxes did you go through? >> i have no idea. >> hours and hours? >> i think i have tried to forget that. >> and just when steffi thought it was all a wasted effort, he pulled out this scrap. >> did you find it? i found it. i found it. >> there it was, a receipt that showed gary and his mom were out shopping all

interview with gary gensler chairman of the c f.t.c. responsible for these live more rigorous pervasive rate rigging so where we need to go is we need to go to something that is far better for the public they can't be so easily manipulated so are you suggesting the doing a way of life. i'm suggesting that any reference rate has to be based on facts and not be. fiction it has to be based on real transactions and the challenge here is banks are no longer essential the lending to each other so what is live for it's something that in the past banks were supposedly lending to each other but now they don't so again he doesn't understand basic concept the word is fraud it's the libel rate should be based on fact not fraud he says it should be based on fact not fiction fiction is not the same thing as fraud not wealth but it is in this case the lives or rate is just a rate they pull out of their butt to help in committing fraud gary gensler knows that he has admitted on several occasions but of course somebody somewhere is looking at a reflecti

i am probably the biggest names to come out of san jose. >> gary radnich, your the best. >> gary: cand? [laughter] we like having him on, arguably, he is the best tight end in the modern football era. we like to get him there and to get his opinions and your pals, steve young was last night he thought that the culver or have legs and mike. how- to you see it? >> it sounds like he came out with an apology to the 49ers are ready. i think that it is certainly going to stay with him for a while. he is he on. >> gary: the question is that do you think that is going to impact the game? >> maybe for him. perhaps there rest of the team well just not address it or not. it is difficult to tell. but it is a good lesson. >> gary: if you were sitting down with colin kaepernick and the advice for super bowl? >> yes. just be yourself and be in a moment you have all arrived. just go out and do your best. >> gary: i know that you will respect his playing but overall, are you a fan of ray lewis off the field and the with that he conducts himself? >> you are talking about the ray lewis that probably cam

our team has won games. >> gary: the players are done talking., bring on the game andchris culliuver said he was look of the media! this second string player but he made the homophobic remarks on a radio show. and it got national coverage. >> as i mentioned, that hinot why feel in my heart. and i love san francisco it was never really a serious matter. those were disrespectful questions and in a manner that i should've taken time and thought about it. >> gary: the last time 49ers have to a super bowl veteran was steve young. steve young those t things of those could actually carried with him but he was on the spot. the game could come down to a field goal and that means david >> i do not think there is anythingakers. that i couldn't do at this point. david akers... adjust to go out and try to take your mind out of it. and with at least 13 positive seasons. it is not we are going out in back with a half and flat volleyball and putting it over your shed. >> gary: tomorrow, the harbaugh well each speak. here is john. >> as far as the joint press con

ben stein and dagen mcdowell, adam, charlie and gary k. >> they should pay for every dime. the politicians didn't read the bill. the unions didn't read the bill. every time obama comes -- president obama comes out with something, they just back it no matter what, and all of a sudden they have an oops moment 'cause they realized oh, my costs go up, so please help me. i think the bottom line, they'll end up with some sort of exemption, some sort of subsidy and guess what? it will be on our backs as usual. >> i know, but it's kind of interesting, dagen, maybe expecting quid pro quo didn't happen. >> to gary's point, if they get these subsidies on top of -- these members already having health insurance, that just opens the door for handouts to anybody. will ultimately drive up the cost of this health care law even more. listen, this law was about expanding health insurance to people who didn't have it. well, union members, you have it. your costs go up. suck it up. that's the way it goes [ laughter ] >> you like that one, huh? >> charlie, they've got -- to dagen's point, they q

interview with gary gensler chairman of the c f.t.c. responsible for these libel or rigorous pervasive rate rigging so where we need to go is we need to go to something that is far better for the public they can't be so easily manipulated so are you suggesting the doing a way of life. i'm suggesting that any reference rate has to be based on facts and not be. fiction it has to be based on real transactions and the challenge here is banks are no longer essential the lending to each other so what is live for it's something that in the past banks were supposedly lending to each other but now they don't so again he doesn't understand basic concept the word is fraud it's the libel rate should be based on fact not fraud he says it should be based on fact not fiction fiction is not the same thing as fraud not wealth but it is in this case the lives or rate is just a rate they pull out of their butt to help in committing fraud gary gensler knows that he has admitted on several occasions but of course somebody somewhere is looking at a reflectio

gary, you argue the institution of priesthood, you say it's a mistake. how so?ests in the original followers of jesus. paul does not call himself or anyone else that in his letters. the gospels called no one a priests but the jewish priests. of course, that's the issue. the first followers of jesus did have brooess but they were the jewish priests in the temple because the first christians continued to go to temple and synagogue. >> do you think they have too much power, gary? >> yes, they -- well, once it was introduced, all of the gifts of the spirit that paul talks about in his letters, readers, healers, exexorcists, it got separated off. when jesus sent out his disciples at first they came back and said, things went pretty well except we came across someone who's casting out devils in your name. we told him to stop because he was not one of us. well, the whole sacred priesthood of the catholic church has been telling other protestants, other christians, stop. you're doing it in his name but you're not one of us. >> okay, gary, i want to bring in brent really

gary? >> reporter: leslie, the end of this manhunt started with a home invasion by this rogue former cop on the run. seen later by fish and game rangers who try to stop him, get their car sprayed with gunfire as dorner runs into the woods and then into the house. a big gun fight. two sheriff's deputies hit, one of them dies. a standoff, tear gas fired into the house which then catches fire. a body found in the burned-out rubble, dorner now presumed dead. the owners of this truck described a man matching dorner's spot who stole it from them in the mountains east of l.a. when he was spotted by officers, he repeatedly fired at them. >> he crashed the car and then took off into the forest. >> reporter: and into this house, which was soon surrounded by police. local cbs reporter cutter evans was 100 yards away listening to the extended firefight. [ guns firing ] >> reporter: two deputies were shot. >> one of our deputies was injured. he's being treated here at low loma linda. >> reporter: police

[laughter] >> gary: we will be back. >> gary: the raiders are going to try to sell out as many games can. the oakland coliseum, the east side third deck $25. all of this will hopefully draw a sellout crowd to get on tv. for football, 64,000, and high school football this was exciting. high-school forkbalplayers high school football-players put a wish list. however, his mother wanted him to go to the university of miami. she has misplaced the letter of intent. ... >> pam: good night, everybody [ female announcer ] this is a special message from at&t. [ male announcer ] it's no secret that the price of things just keeps going up. [ female announcer ] but we have some good news. it's our bundle price promise. [ male announcer ] a price you can definitely count on for two whole years. from at&t. call to get u-verse tv starting at just $19 a month with our triple-play bundle. get the same great price for two years. plus now two times the internet speed than before. [ female announcer ] switch today and get a total home dvr included for life. [ male announcer ] you get reliable high-speed

gary, faith, stan, and abbey. okay.n addition to that, recently, we have amanda knox who wrote a book to capitalize on her story calling "waiting to be heard." casey anthony is said to be writing her biography. i guess -- i want to start with you gary, can people who are lost in the court of public opinion, can they ever get it back? are they just wasting their time? >> of course, they can get it back. we have seen that over and over and over again. people have lost in public arenas and come back. that's what we love. >> even in a case -- i want to talk about o.j., lance armstrong. i think in the case of the people that i mentioned, once -- >> done. >> yeah, once people make their decision, if anything, abbey, doesn't it backfire on them because you say, they're just cashing in? >> paterno is different than like a casey anthony because joe paterno has so much good will to stand on. he was beloved by so many before this, where you look at casey anthony, there's really no love there. >> you have to put this in context. th

and that gary miller had found the killer of jessica roach.t day, hall changed his story. >> as i was talking to him he said, i was just telling you about my dreams. that didn't really happen. he said, it was just my dreams. i said, larry, that's not what you said. you said it happened and you didn't like talking about it because you didn't like the things you had done but you never mentioned it being a dream. >> but he stuck to his new story. larry hall was recanting everything. announcer ] any technology not moving forward is moving backward. [ engine turns over, tires squeal ] and you'll find advanced safety technology like an available heads-up display on the 2013 lexus gs. there's no going back. this is another! ta-daa! try charmin ultra strong. it cleans so well and you can use up to four times less than the leading value brand. and it's four times stronger. charmin ultra strong. >>> larry hall had confessed to killing jessica roach, tricia reitler and two other women. and then he took it all back, claiming it was just his imagination. >

liz: gary cohn, president and coo of goldman sachs.id: you should not let emotions affect your investment decisions. you can love the browns but don't bet on them, liz. liz: don't beg me for a ticket if they make it. >> i won't. liz: fine. david: liz claman and gary cohn, thank you very much. there is no way to deny that the tech sector's recent troubles. apple's stock has plunged while reaching an all-time high in september. hewlett-packard is down more than 40% over the past year but we have someone who says not all tech stocks are trouble and he has three-ways to play the volatile sector. joining me is jeff reaves, investors place.com editor. jeff, great to see you again. >> good to see you too, david. david: let's paint out sort of the scenario most people are familiar with whether they read "the wall street journal" or market watch which is that the pc market is dying. the tech sector is restructuring itself as a result of this development as we go mobile. some will succeed and some will not. dell is one of those examples of a com