>> yeah. >> when nay got close to this, what were they saying, garrett, garrett. >> something like thatething, garrett. because they're going to fry your ass in the electric chair. >> excuse me. >> mr. fleisher. >> is that an objection? >> yes that is an objection. >> the question is, is that what they said to you? >> something like that. i'm going down for murder. >> you're going down for murder. >> i'm going to get the death penalty. >> you are going to get the death penalty. what finally made you give them some information. >> saying that jewel yet was confessing in the other room. they told me i was going -- i was going to go to jail for murder already. so -- i ended up confessing. >> reporter: there was no doubt that kopp committed the murder. but maybe the case against christopher wasn't quite so water tight after all. maybe christopher himself could set the record straight. >> we're calling chris sutton. >> reporter: would jurors listen? coming up -- accused of murdering his mother, and blinding his father, a son sheds tears on the stand for himself. >> that was when they called,

>> garrett tees up peter nicely. >> reporter: thanks, garrett. >> where does president trump stand? >> reporter: with a thanks to garrett and senator kennedy there, we are still waiting to hear whether the president would support a short-term spending keel. we heard from kellyanne conway, her quote was we will look at that certainly. we do know the white house that is signaled a tweet from the additional demand that the congress give him the he additional money for the wall. he separately wrote mexico is paying indirectly through the usmca, the trade deal that's yet to be signed. far more money coming into the u.s. because of the tremendous dangers at the border, including large criminal inflow. the u.s. military will build the wall. simply put, that's a stretch. first of all, congress has yet to sign off on the deal. if they do and if it goes through, it would generate more business presumably for american companies. the presumption is those companies would generate more profit, presumably pay more taxes. the only way the u.s. treasury is getting more money is if u.s. companies, am

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capitol hill correspondent garrett haake has been following every development.ything new in the last couple of minutes since we last spoke? >> reporter: we're still waiting on word out of that meeting primarily. swalwell's tweet is putting into words what a lot of folks up here are thinking. they see this almost as a free pass to take a shot at president trump on this issue because of the way he presented it during that oval office meeting from last week saying he would own it, saying he would be proud of it, makes this a little bit of a cleaner shot politically on a president who they have always disliked and now have one more reason to. swalwell you mentioned of course, has been spending a lot of time in iowa suggesting this is also part of kind of a democratic pitch on more broadly to see how this kind of thing plays out across the country. we're still waiting on word from that meeting. we're still talking a little bit about this possibility of the nuclear option that was floated by the president. we've been trying to shoot it down. i want to read mitch mccon

>> garrett, the charging document talks about, do you know what it could be about?rrett. >> well, i was going to say, and that's sort of again one of the interesting things to pull out of this is remember the way that will a successful intelligence operation operates is you don't have someone showing up on your doorstep saying hi, i'm a russian spy and lied you to spy on your country. john brennan talked about this in his congressional hearing last year where he said people stumble down a treasonous path sometimes without realize wag they're doing. so what you see here is maria and her colleagues like aleksandr torshin sort of befriending people in conservative tub circles at the nra such that after the election, they could come back and then it's not sort of some weird russian asking you for a favor. it's your buddy maria who took you on had great trip and takes you out to some really wonderful dippers along the way. and she's not asking for anything big just for this small little favor to help curry some of political influence here. >> i was going to ask garrett t

nbc's garrett haake joins me from capitol hill. garrett, are we any closer to a deal? >> reporter: kate, this partial government shutdown will go into its sixth day tomorrow. the two sides are still too far apart to strike a deal to end the shutdown and send those few hundred thousand federal employees back to work tomorrow, especially with the president out of the country and lawmakers mostly back home in their districts. the issue here remains what it has been, how much money if any will congress give the president for border security or for his border wall. democrats have said they're willing to spend money on border security but absolutely not the $5 billion that the president has requested for the wall. democrats just see it as an expensive, ineffective tool. >> so where does that leave the hundreds of thousands of federal employees who are going without pay, eventually? >> reporter: about 400,000 federal employees stayed home today on furlough, the first federal workday since the shutdown started. another 400,000 or so werdeemed. but their paychecks are something

garrett is well versed to talk to his folks down there. it's clear on capitol hill that the democrats also think they have a winning argument and there's no obvious solution in sight. both sides are trying to bolster their case in public opinion, trump even talking about it when he was away, visiting in iraq. here is what he had to say. >> how long do you think shutdown will last? >> whatever it takes. we're going to have a wall. we're going to have safety. we need safety for our country, even from this standpoint. we have terrorists coming in through the southern border. we have terrorists also coming in through the southern border. because you know why? it was always the easiest. >> hallie, to answer your question about not until next week, i think garrett and i could brush up on our seinfeld quotes and go back and forth. >> you'll have fun. garrett haake, come back if you see anybody on capitol hill. not sure that will happen. national political reporter robert costa, chief of staff for president clinton, washington bureau chief for the

we asked garrett to narrow it down to the five big ones. we will put these up on the screen. run through the questions you have. >> one of the first ones is why michael cohen is being prosecuted by robert mueller? this is presumably part of some legal strategy that mueller is laying down that we don't understand either about what michael cohen is saying about lying to congress or about targeting other people who are lying to congress. the second big question here is why has there been no cozy bear indictment? remember, there were two separate hacking attacks on the democratic party and the u.s. voting system in 2016. one led by russian military intelligence, which we have seen an indictment about, and the other being the russian state security, the successor to the kgb, that also hacked the dnc, and we have not seen any knowledge of the hack coming out even though we know the dutch intelligence knows exactly who perpetrated that attack. then we get into the question about why bob mueller has not indicted one of the three internet research agency employees that travelled to th

-- >> go ahead, garrett. >> sorry. i think it's worth noting that the two countries in the world where the president is most at odds with the civil service and intelligence community, sort of the rest of the u.s. government are saudi arabia and russia, the two countries where we know that donald trump has the most personal business interest. >> yeah. >> and susan was there in helsinki when he stood next to putin and onstage made some of the most astounding comments that we have ever seen a u.s. president make, turning his back on the men and women of the u.s. intelligence community and firmly embracing vladimir putin's world view. >> john, you said you've never seen putin so happy. >> never seen a shot of him this happy. and the both of them were all grins. the picture said everything you needed to know about their attitude about what's going on. they know exactly they're winni winning, and we're losing. >> it's really outrageous. thank you all. have a good weekend. >>> robert mueller reportedly investigating exactly w

garrett, okay, so explain this to us., you say there are 17 investigations into the trump/russia world. i want to put some of them up on the screen now from mueller to the fbi -- let me say, from mueller, from the sdny, on and on, they're all at various stages, but it's fascinating to see these are being scrutinized. so talk to me about that. >> this is -- we've seen really over the last three weeks a lot of new information come out about these probes, about these investigations. and when you go back and look at everything that we have learned over the last really three weeks since thanksgiving, what you see is something that's a little bit different than the way that we've been talking about this. we shorthand this as the mueller probe, or we shorthand this as the russia probe. but when you look at the totality of this, sort of the constellation of investigations that are under way right now, that are focused on donald trump and his organizations, his campaign, his businesses, his inauguration, his super pac, his white h

so, garrett, i know you've seen it but i want to play it again. this is at this town hall july 2015 when butina was the first one. she came out and asked trump a question about russian sanctions. watch this. >> i believe i would get along very nicely with putin. okay? and i mean where we have the strength. i don't think you'd need the sanctions. i think we would get along very, very well. i really believe that. >> so given all that we know now, right, do you think that's fishy? what do you think of that moment? >> yeah, it's one of the particularly weird moment that, again, sort of seems to point at puzzle pieces we haven't yet seen. there's been no real concrete link between maria butina and the trump campaign and the special counsel's investigation. remember, this was a case that was prosecuted by the justice department's national security division out of main justice in washington which typically handles counter intelligence espionage cases like this, not robert mueller's office. but that seems to be, in part, because the investigation into her

garrett, for 30 minutes. mr. garrett: thank you, mr. speaker. someone please wake me up, i hink i'm having a nightmare. what if i told you that in the middle east now there's a place where christians and muslims, arabs and kurds and assyrians all azidis, women and men, sit together at the same table as the result of the beginnings where mocratic process tolerance and pluralism is a we've seen nd where safety, security, and prosperity emerge from the ashes of one of the most horrific conflicts of the modern age? what if i told you that what if i told you a foreign state actor spent $10 million a month to our reckoning to influence thought in washington, d.c. alone to tell lies about this fledgeling, tolerant democracy in the middle east? what if i told you the very iranian regime that took the lives of american women and men the battlefield in iraq was celebrating right now, along with vladimir putin and bashar al-assad and turkey's knee yow ottoman fascist everyday wan? i can tell you -- erdogan? i can tell you all those things because they're t

are we looking at 2019 here, garrett? >> it's sounding increasingly likely that we are looking at a prolonged shutdown, because the sides are too far apart, but there's something to pull from that quote from nancy pelosi. this is apparently negotiating in the trump era. there's a lot of trolling going on here. she talks about the president backing off of this idea of a concrete barrier. and it has been interesting to listen to the way the president has talked about the wall over the last few weeks, because we have seen this change from the giant concrete structure that mexico would pay for, to talking about steel slats, to talk about a fence or whatever. this ultimately might be the way out of this stalemate here, is this question of semantics between what is a fence and what is a wall? because democrats have said, they would be willing to spend money on border security. they'd be willing to spend money on things like pedestrian fencing in the place that it is needed. but they don't want to see money spent on a big mediev

i want to talk about this now with jack quinn, garrett graff.rett is the author of "the threat matrix." also with us, renato mariotti. good evening. let's start with mr. mariotti. you say that federal prosecutors are essentially saying the president committed felonies by directing the payments to stormy daniels and karen mcdougal during the campaign. does this mean they have the corroborating evidence to back that up? >> it certainly means they have more evidence than just the say-so of michael cohen. so if you read that full document, the prosecutors trash michael cohen, make it crystal clear that they do not necessarily trust him or think he's the most truthful and upright person ever. but then they very definitively make clear that michael cohen was directed by trump to commit these crimes, crimes by the way that cohen pled guilty for. he was charged and pled guilty for. and they also have citations in there that make it clear that the probation department, a totally separate arm of the government, also came to the same conclusion. so that's

heather: garrett tenney, live for us, thank you, garrett.garrett was discussing, democrats refusing to budge on border security which is days until they take control of the house, kellyanne conway say it is fight over wall funding is unfair to the border agents who risk their lives every day. >> many, many days since the house passed its $5.6 billion for border security. it's not restricted to just a wall, cpb says they need. i prefer chuck schumer 2006 and 2009 to chuck schumer 2018 and 2019 where he has amnesia, he said enhance border security is a way to keep out illegal immigration. people who just want to say a wall, wall, want it to be a four-letter word and not respect what customs and border patrol and ice tell us they need which is enhancements at the border. there may wall in some places, maybe technological enhancements, all we are saying wall or no wall is being disingenuous and turning complete blind eye to crisis at the border. heather: today marks 10 days since the partial shutdown, both chambers are in session today but strik

>> garrett haake on the north lawn for us. garrett, thank you. >>> tot turkey's leader in his prepares for a change at the top. nbc's courtney kube joins us. courtney? >> reporter: just hours after announcing he was removing defense secretary james mattis, president trump shocked national security officials again overnight declaring he's handing over the fight against isis to turkey, tweeting president erdogan has strongly informed me that he will eradicate whatever is left of isis in syria. the president who last week declared isis defeated in syria making no mention of america's kurdish allies who military officials worry the u.s. is abandoning. all this as patrick shanahan prepares to become acting secretary. peter? >> courtney, thank you. >>> now to indonesia where the death toll is rising after that powerful tsunami. at least 373 people are dead and more than 1,400 injured. tonight amid the desperate search for survivors, new fears another giant wave may strike without warning. nbc's sarah harmon is in the disaster zone f

>> caller: i thi . >> reporter: i think garrett's right. i think most members of the house want to fight. they were promised since the beginning of the trump administration that an all republican washington would pass money to build a border wall. there's no ambiguity with this. they've been fighting for this, conservatives have, and the president has since day one. they've kicked the ball down the field now three or four times, and they were promised, the president is right on this. they were promised a fight on the border wall at the end of this year. here we are at the end of the year, and they're continuing the funding scheme that the president himself has said he doesn't like and regrets signing. there's going to be a fight, and i personally doubt this bill will come to the floor today. i think that it will be carried by mostly dplemocrats. why should the president agree to end his republican washington with democrats passing a bill without his arguably top legislative priority? it seems curious to most republicans in the conservative

and garrett haake, at the capital right now, what is happening? >> andrea, we are operating in what is an information black hole this morning. this morning, there is no plan or strategy or anything set to actually keep the government open, only tactic, and answers, and small steps to small questions with the house passing their version of the continuing resolution which included money for the border wall, and disastrous sentiment where they acknowledge that the votes are not there. the democrats will never vote for this, and it needed to get to 60 votes and that would not happen, and the president was tweeting about the nuclear option, and the idea to change the rules in the senate to move legislation with just a 50-vote majority. i want to dispense with that as quickly as possible. it is both illegal and politically impossible, and there is a law, and if you want to read john cornyn's twitter account, but he talks about how you cannot change this on a budget-related bill. so politically, it is untenable, and the republicans don't want to do it, a

we kind of look silly. >> garrett, does everybody look sil silly? >> reporter: i think he fairly well encapsulates what senate republicans feel. it is a split between senate and house republicans. senate republicans would like to see a deal. i've found few, if any, who feel the same desire to fight for wall that the president does. they want border security but the idea of wall, specifically, is not something that animates very many senate republicans. they are still in charge in the senate. they have a responsibility to govern. on the house side in the minority, house republicans have the option of being what they have accused democrats of being which is obstructionists. you can come out every day and say all you want is to see a wall and the president should just keep fightings and the minority in the house, pretty much all you can do is make noise. they will continue to back up the president and carry that message to the base. that split between the senate and the house on this will be telling because senate republicans do have that responsibilit

that's pretty clear, garrett. when i look at this, what happened yesterday, and really what has happened all week, with the trump foundation and last week with cohen and ami, and every day that passes the facts are catching up here. the facts are beginning to dictate where this story goes. i don't know where the facts will lead. none of us does as we sit here this morning, but the facts are winning here day by day. >> yeah, and i think that yesterday was an especially important day in this story for a couple of different reasons. the first being that this was a specific focus on the spotlight of michael flynn, which having a national security adviser who was working as an unregistered foreign agent for another country would be one of the worst political scandals in american history barring nothing else, that this is behavior from a high ranking official unlike anything we found from iran-contra, and you would have to go back decades to find something like this. this is one part of a multifaceted massive growing sc

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garrett, thank you.istorical perspective, our nation turns its lonely eyes to author and historian, john meachum. books will be written about this period. it's been a couple of weeks since your last one. write me the first paragraph on what we're witnessing now. >> well, i think, to go high dork, since it's friday, walter bad bad badgett wrote a very important on the english constitution, defined government in two ways. he said there are two functions, the dignified element, and the efficient element. dignity is the monarchy in britain, and efficiency is the parliament. and here, we have the presidency and the system as madison and the framers put it together. where we are at the moment, we're at a remarkably chaotic five, six-day period, we know the dignified part is not there in this era. in this point, the efficiency part is also collapsing. between the stock market, the wi wi withdrawal from syria, we have a confluence of forces that i think are going to create enduring political problems for the pre

first question, garrett. we're stuck in this stalemate, what's the timeline going forward?> reporter: we're going nowhere fast. the senate was sent home, they're not expected back here until thursday the 27th at the soonest. they could come back sooner if there's an agreement. but it doesn't appear that's likely. we're looking like late next week could be the earliest the government reopens. >> what might a future deal look like? >> the president has shifted from talking about a concrete wall to potentially building a steel fence. white house aides say an agreement on funding a structure like that might be more acceptable to democrats. but here's the thing, jose. it's in trump's best interest to resolve this quickly. the longer he waits, the less money he may get. given that in 12 days democrats take control of the house and he' he'll -- they'll have even more leverage. >> thank you for being with me. while the impact of this government shutdown may not be felt in a big way yet, people across the country still had a lot to say about it today. nbc's tammy leitner has that pa

, with no time off in sight, garrett haake, thank you very much. hans nichols, thank you as well. umgine, jennifer, and howard, you guys are staying with us. up next our breaking news coverage continues. the president is on defense over defense. have we really knocked isis silly? we'll talk to an expert who knows the region better than pretty much everyone. today is the day you're going to get motivated... get stronger... get closer. start listening today to the world's largest selection of audiobooks on audible. and now, get more. for just $14.95 a month, you'll get a credit a month good for any audiobook, plus two audible originals exclusive titles you can't find anywhere else. if you don't like a book, you can exchange it any time, no questions asked. automatically roll your credits over to the next month if you don't use them. with the free audible app, you can listen anytime, and anywhere. plus for the first time ever, you'll get access to exclusive fitness programs a $95 value free with membership. start a 30-day trial today and your first au

garrett, i have to start with you. this flurry of activity on the hill. the democrats trying to vote on a continuing resolution to fund the government until february 8th but, garrett, what exactly does that entail? do we know if any republicans are on board? >> reporter: there's seven outstanding pieces of the government not fully funded right now. what the democrats hope to do is vote to fully fund six of them for a year and leave homeland security under a continuing resolution that would get us to february so presumably the president continue this is fight and the conversation. that should pass easily in the house. it might even get some republican support. the problem is while it might get some republican support if it's voted on in the senate, it lacks the support of the key republican mitch mcconnell. the senate majority leader is pretty clear he won't put anything else on the floor until he's sure that the president will sign it so until and unless we hear from president trump that he is willing to kick the can down the road and resume this fight wi

nbc's garrett haake joins frus from capitol hill. garrett, answer me this. the president says he doesn't sign the continuing resolution, it goes back to congress, what's the vote situation now in the outgoing congress? is there some way that the president can get what he wants with the republicans who are still in power zblrm a? >> reporter: ali, right now, this is a complete debacle. it's hard to overstate what a shambles this situation is right now here on capitol hill. there's a plan to move things forward a little bit, but there is not a plan among republican leadership to actually keep the government open. here's what republican leaders were saying when they came back from that meeting at the white house about their next steps. here was steve scalise returning to the capitol. >> we had a really good meeting with president trump to talk about the strong interests that we all have in securing our nation's border. this has ban priority of president trump's. this has been a priority of house republicans. and we are going to move today to have add language t

garrett, you first.r latest piece for wired that we've already seen more than 300 pages from mueller. in a sense that we're already seeing parts of the mueller part and while we've learned a lot, there's even more that we don't know. all those redactions. so what is it that we don't know? what could it be? >> well, this is one of the fascinating things about the flynn filing. you know, a lot of people sort of thought that the flynn filing was in some ways anti-climactic because we didn't learn that many new details. those redactions are fascinating. i think they show and they appear to show that this investigation might actually be going on sort of longer and bigger and larger than we have been anticipating. >> you mean it wasn't -- it's not over in november of 2017 for thanksgiving? it didn't end this? >> he's just barely missed the deadline of a year ago for thanksgiving, yeah. >> because you remember giuliani and other folks saying this is wrapping up. when i read it, i said there are all of these red

i want to talk about this now with jack quinn, garrett graff.author of the threat matrix. also with us, renato mariotti. good evening. let's start with mr. mariotti. you say that federal prosecutors are essentially saying the president committed felonies by directing the payments to stormy daniels, kar and karen mcdougal during the campaign. does this mean they have the corroborating evidence to back that up? >> it certainly means they have more evidence than just the say-so of michael cohen. so if you read that full document, the prosecutors trash michael cohen, make it crystal clear that they do not necessarily trust him or think he's the most truthful and upright person ever. but then they very definitively make clear that michael cohen was directed by trump to commit these crimes, crimes by the way that cohen pled guilty for. he was charged and pled guilty for. and they also have citations in there that make it clear that the probation department, a totally separate arm of the government, also came to the same conclusion. so that's big news.

garrett, let me go to you now.licans behind closed doors are getting one last crack at comey before they are out of the majority a month from now. >> reporter: that's right, james comey is in the room, lawmakers have been filing in, and telling us on the way in, they expect this to be a long day. they have page after page of questions for the former fbi director, but lawmakers say they expect this hearing to create more heat than light. even republicans who are willing to subpoena him to get him here to answer questions on several sures, saying that they really would rather have rod rosenstein here, they don't have as much to go after comey for in the past. it's a chance for republicans, as you said to get one last crack at comey, and for democrats to say this is not how we're going to do business, with a collective response even among lawmakers to say -- here's what they're talking about this morning. >> we needed to put the pedal to the metal a year ago. we're facing a situation where he's going to try to impeach

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for the latest on capitol hill, let's get to msnbc's garrett haake. garrett, it was hard if you're watching that thing live, as we were, to keep track of who was saying what about what votes, but leader pelosi said the president doesn't have the votes to get his funding right now. he said he does. give us some clarity on this. >> well, he may not and we won't know until we see a vote. house republicans has been sitting on a bill and they haven't brought it up for a floor vote yet. paul ryan was asked this morning and said what's the point until we know what the senate can pass. nancy pelosi is the best of her kind in terms of counting votes and the theory here is that republicans, who had a tough time coraling their own caucus here over the last two years, will now find themselves in a situation where they do not have enough people sticking around after the midterm drubbing who want to build $5 million for a border wall that they can keep all of their cats so herded, if you will. we may never find out if the democrats have the votes or not. it's inter

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ofjor garrett right in the middle of all of it today. thank you, major. >> reporter: sure. >> glor: there is a desperate search tonight in west virginia. three people have been missing since saturday deep inside an abandoned coal mine about 50 miles southeast of the capital. tony dokoupil is following this >>te search trapped in the abandoned rock house powellton mine while a fourth, 43-year-old eddie williams emerged on monday. william, said to be in good bndition, is now helping authorities locate the others. 21-year-old cody beverly, 25- year-old kayla williams, and 31- year-old erica treadway. famir conditions are unknown. families are holding out hope as the search drags on. tyler treadway is erica's brother. >> i just didn't know what to i ink. i can't believe she went in t ere. it's just mind-boggling, you know? i just know how dangerous it is. ha reporter: rescuers have been working around the clock in teams of four, but the search has been hampered by rough blrrain, heavy snow, and water ceocking one of the mine's entrances. gov

i'll let garrett go through what he had to say. did he deliver a message to the president on the airways, which we can assume he delivered over the airways as well. dig in. don't back down. talking about how there's room between $1.6 billion and $5 billion. i'm told the president is insistent that he wants more than $1.6 billion. anything less than that, or that number, will be seen as basically a washout at this point. democrats, of course, do not want to give the president kind of money. it is a tbd. and they'll be there tomorrow talking this through. lots of question marks as the president remains here in washington tonight. he will not be heading to mar-a-lago as he usually does over the holidays. >> and the first lady and barron trump have made their plans known to fly down. that's at one end of this. now to the capitol we go. garrett, a very sparsely populated u.s. capitol. i think the phrase is, they've all been given time away to the capitol, but subject to the call of the chair. >> that's right. nobody is coming back until

. >> okay, edna garrett.ove her in we all grew up watching charlotte reon the facts of life. before that she was on different strokes. >> of course. beloved actress passed away in august. she lived a full life. tonight we remember everybody's favorite house mom. >> what happened to the go getter, give them heck, take it to the streets. that was you? >> no, that was the bdooby brothers. >> i'm a stall town girl in los angeles. all the fans are screaming mrs. garrett! >> she helped the girls with issues. this body shaming episode first appeared in 1980. >> you don't think of a girl at a ten if they weighs a ton. >> you're not a number. you're a girl. >> charlotte told us later that ironically the young actresses ahad their own body shaming on set. >> how much pressure would the producers put on the girls to keep a certain weight? >> the more they pressured them, the more they would eat. >> charlotte told us she had her own personal struggles to deal with. >> it was a lot of joy, a lot of love, but a lot of chal

now, i said john and garrett have written an important book and i think that's true for basically two simple reasons. the first is they frankly just tell a compelling story. as the historian hareri has observed, humans think in stories rather than in facts, numbers or equations. the simpler the story, the better. the second reason is that "dawn of the code war" contributes something unique and that's not easy to do in a world that is overflowing with titles about cyber, many of those with the byline of david sanger underneath them. "dawn of the code war" writes the history for the first time from a unique vantage point of the origin of today's ongoing code war. now, i confess that reading the book reminded me of both a pleasant trip down memory lane and some trauma-inducing flashbacks, but mostly it reminded me of the gratitude i have for the work of the teams of which i was privileged to be a part and to lead, and i got to relive in reading the book great partnerships. one of the most rewarding of those, of course, was with john carlin. as jeff noted, i served for several years as bo

garrett haake, hang you so much.eff, with a welcome to you, the president just moments ago paying tribute to bush 41. tell us what he said. >> good to be with you, alex. in just the last half hour or so, we saw president trump on camera addressing his reaction to the death of former president george h.w. bush. he called him a fine man, a wonderful man, a man who loved his family. high praise best expressed in the statement that the white house put out overnight. here's more of what he had to sigh. >> we extend our best wishes. he's a very fine man. he was just a high quality man, who truly loved his family he lived a very full life, a very exemplary life. >> reporter: despite those words of praise, it's no secret the two had a very public contentious relationships giving the republican primary where donald trump belittled jeb bush. that ended with george h.w. bush declining to support president trump. we understand from sarah sanders that the president and first lady will attend the services in washington for the for

fifteen seconds joe real quick and then i'll go back i think break we're talking about a finish up garrett go ahead. peter i think what we're what we're talking about is a convergence of two possible or likely sets of interests here that both are after a son for different reasons ok or i get or i generally i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussions with julian assange the state of the art. the bed the people who run the economy price money the commodity that runs economy they say it's more art than science i mean they're just making it up as they go along i mean that there is no principles that they are guided by they consider themselves artists because of the selves impressionist they consider themselves completely subjective in their view of the world that they can simply raise rates and lower rates based on a when there's nothing guiding them in economic reality there's no school of economics there's no science behind it it's pure wind see. the way to the united states is dangerous for moost of the illegal immig

nancy, nancy. >> garrett, who's right? i think back to republican in texas, will hurd, who has said before, a wall, nobody wants it or needs it. >> yeah, republicans have been projecting confidence on this. i just talked to jim gordon of the freedom caucus as i was waiting to go on the air, and he said, of course, we have the votes. >> of course jim jordan would say that. >> there's a couple of truisms of capitol hill here, if you have the vote, you take the vote. yesterday, he said, why bother if we know the senate won't pass it. now they may have to call up a vote just to back up the president on this. but if they had the votes, you would have thought that republicans in the house would have passed this a while ago. just to put more pressure on the democrats, to prove that they could do it. and the second truism is, do not question nancy pelosi as a vote counter. she is still the best in the business at this. and if she thinks that republicans don't have the votes, it's worth figuring out why she feels that way, because

back with me now, jack quinn and garrett graff. there could be more.do you think of the trump campaign's with russia? just peanut stuff? >> definitely not peanut stuff and definitely getting more suspicious, particularly after the filings that we saw last week of russians coming up to offer, quote, unquote, political synergy to the trump campaign and michael cohen. and i think sort of you actually touched on something i want to highlight right there, which is it's incredible that we continue to learn about new approaches by new russians to the trump campaign, to trump associates, to business partners. i mean this is -- it seems increasingly clear that this was a multi-pronged, long-running intelligence operation by a series of russian cutouts to penetrate and befriend and aid and test the willingness of the trump campaign to accept the help. in some ways, that is the most clear thing that we see unfolding over the course of -- >> you think they knew? you think the trump folks knew or they were being played? >> well, so that's the thing that we just don

we begin tonight with nbc's garrett haake. >> well, i want to wish everybody a really merry christmas. >> reporter: president trump started christmas morning making calls to american service members deployed around the world. >> so john, how is it going in guam? >> reporter: but when the holiday cheer was over he made it clear what's still at the top of his christmas list. money for his border wall. >> i can't tell you when the government will be open. i can tell you it won't be open until we have a wall, a fence, whatever they'd like to call it. >> reporter: mr. trump says he gave out a contract on christmas eve for 115 miles of wall construction in texas. with building set to start next week. he said he planned a visit in january. >> the new section is very, very exciting. what's going on there. so while we're fighting over funding we're also building. >> reporter: but the it.te house provided congress hasn't appropriated any money for new wall construction. >> but we want the wall money to be increased because i want to finish it. >> reporter: and this afternoon, customs and border

garrett tenney, thanks, garrett.c: ellison. >> yes, republicans here are putting blame on house minority leader nancy pelosi, they say that she's the one holding up negotiations and preventing senator chuck schumer from striking a deal. officials say they believe democrats will not negotiate in the near future and that it is because pelosi fears losing speakership, white house budget director mick mulvaney. >> she cannot be seen by her party as being weak on negotiating with donald trump so we fully expect that until she's elected speaker and has locked the vote up, we don't expect to hear from the democrats again. they told us last night that they were not countering our last offer. nancy pelosi speakership is shutting government down, that's the discussion that we wish people would be having because that's exactly what is happening in washington, d.c. >> pelosi pushed back on the sort of suggestion during the oval office meeting with president trump and senate minority leader chuck schumer earlier this month. democ

let me turn to you, garrett, for a moment on this. a couple of things, i don't care, he's doing a good job as president. that's number one. two, who is this u.s. attorney? is he a republican? and, three he first started saying it was the democrats. just break down just the politics and the personal agenda around that interview. >> and this is, to be fair, relatively common reaction we have seen thus far from republicans on capitol hill. they are very worried about their own base, their own voters in primary elections where donald trump's popularity remains very, very high and are not yet willing to turn on him and defect. there is this question that is semiopen in u.s. politics about previous crimes before you become president, whether that would rise to an impeach only fence, but these crimes, because they go to sort of cheating to win the election certainly do fall under the impeachable category. if donald trump robbed a bank 20 years ago, that may not necessarily end up being an impeachable case, but certainly cheating to win the p

garrett graff is here as well.matrix: inside robert mueller's fbi and the war on global terror." good evening to both of you gentlemen. thank you for joining us. jack, i'm going to start with you. you just heard me lay it out. all of it, right? mueller has indicted multiple members of trump's inner circle. democrats take control of congress in a matter of days. how bad could this get? >> well, it is bad. it's going to only get worse from here. so many of the areas on which you touched are unresolved. we don't know yet the most critical question. namely, was there, you know, per the mandate a link, any kind of coordination between the trump campaign and the russian government? but remarkably enough, when you look back on all the things you ticked off, the year started with michael flynn talking to the russian ambassador. michael flynn of course at the end of that year being indicted. the year also ended with michael cohen admitting in court that he had perjured himself when he suggested that the trump tower deal in

i want to start with garrett on capitol hill. the president is pushing mitch mcconnell to do the nuclear option. blow stuff up. that's not going to happen because mitch mcconnell doesn't want it to happen. we have word in about 28 minutes from now we'll see a bunch of those men and women at the white house. >> reporter: it's not going to happen because mitch mcconnell doesn't want it to happen and the majority of the u.s. senate doesn't want it to happen. this gets floated every time the president can't get something through the senate he wants right away. every time senators from both parties come out and say it's a bad idea. >> the president doesn't always say it this directly. it does go at mitch mcconnell this hard on twitter. this laser focussed. >> reporter: we saw during the he health care fight. it's not a totally new level of frustration. mitch mcconnell doesn't want to do this and his colleagues don't want to do it. you have orrin hatch who is as good as of an ally of the president saying this is a bad idea. republicans