garrett, that's a lot to do. >> yes, it is, katy.o start with government funding. that's got the shortest deadline and is probably the simplest thing to solve, at least in the short term. you can do that graphic again in a week, you might just move that deadline back to later in december because that's what's probably most likely to happen here. it doesn't seem like the two parties are particularly close to a longer term funding deal. so they're liable to do what they do best, which is extend the deadline here a little bit, punt, essentially, to later in the month, and give themselves a few more weeks to figure that out while they deal with everything else. >> again, jake, it is a lot to do. what are the chances that they're going to get it all done on time and we won't see another continuing resolution? >> zero is my guess. i'm looking to a lot of standing around with garrett over the next couple of weeks, always a pleasure. >> jake, you're looking forward to standing in hallways? i love that you love your job. >> it's a blast, katy

garrett? >> yeah. i remember the same thing being out in the rain in fairfax county, watching folks line up to cast their first opportunity to vote against donald trump. jeff, to me the trump factor in this is fascinating, because the youngkin message about education is either a dog whistle or an effective message we'll see tomorrow night when the polls close. for terry mcauliffe, he's tried hard to make youngkin an extension of donald trump. a republican source of mine in virginia said that's not going to work. democrats in virginia are exhausted by fighting trump because they've been on the front lines of it since 2017. how do you think the mcauliffe youngkin trump connecting strategy is playing in that state? >> well, keep in mind that youngkin has not forsaken trump politics. he's wrapped them up in his fleece vest and his khakis, as terry mcauliffe is fond of saying. and it's a legitimate issue. what is the connection here? what can virginians expect? one wonders if part of the problem with that m

. >> garrett is senator wherry's great-great-nephew.hing about his uncle's role in the lavender scare. only that he'd been a powerful man on capitol hill. >> he has always been a revered person in my family. he was friends with nixon. he was friends with eisenhower. >> let every last one of us here and now rededicate ourselves to the cause of freedom. >> senator wherry went on a crusade against what he called moral perverts and pressured government agencies to follow his lead. >> wherry was on the appropriations committee, and so what he was able to do is create this fear within all the bureaucracies that if there were homosexuals and they weren't doing enough to root them out, then they would lose their funding. and so administrators started implementing new systems to purge sexual deviants from the government. >> it was senator wherry who fostered the idea that homosexuals were likely to be soviet spies and used his political power to kick-start the pervert purge. do you know how these investigations would be conducted? >> a lot of it

so garrett, this testimony will continue today.ution could rest this case perhaps as early as tomorrow. then it's the defense's turn. and earlier in the trial, rittenhouse's attorney has indicated he would testify himself during this trial, garrett. >> gabe, thanks, we'll be staying on top of that for sure. >>> thank you all for being with us this hour. chuck will be back tomorrow for more "meet the press daily." msnbc coverage continues with chris jansing right now. >>> good to be with you. i am chris jansing. we are marking a milestone today in our nationwide recovery with our international borders reopening for the first time in nearly two years. travelers from 33 countries are once again welcome here in the states after covid robbed travel-related businesses in the u.s. of an estimated $300 billion and 1 million jobs. >>> airlines warning of long lines and delays with international visitors expected to arrive in droves. for so many, this is a moment that's long overdue. >> facetime and whatsapp video calling has been really lov

i'm garrett haake. president biden has once again been forced to turn his attention back to the pandemic. as u.s. health officials brace for the arrival of this new and little studied omicron variant. it's going to be days, perhaps more likely weeks before experts can confidently say whether or not this new variant is significantly more dangerous than the delta strain which is dominant now. but that hasn't stopped governments and health authorities from taking action. as the world health organization is now warning that the overall global risk is, quote, very high. today marks the start of a new travel restrictions to the u.s. from south african countries in the region where omicron was first detected. although it's been confirmed in a number of places from hong kong to ontario, israel and japan have responded by closing their borders completely to foreign travelers. and new york declared a state of emergency before a single case of omicron was confirmed in the state. the governor says it's coming. >>>

garrett haake, what's up?mes to congress you always bet the over on how long anything will take. that continues to be the case here. you are looking at another point of order, another kind of republican delaying tactic that's happening on the floor right now. it also gives democrats opportunity to twist more arms work more of the whip operation on the floor. rnsst nevertheless we remain stuck. the announced plan by democratic legislators is to take a procedural vote on the build back better bill and send it to the president's desk today. progressives object to that plan. they don't want to see these two things split. if this falls apart today, it will be the third time, the third end of the week situation in which you had the president call for a vote, call for action on these items, have the house move to set up these votes and then nothing happens. it gets harder as we head into the end of the year. government funds, raising the debt ceiling, passing a defense spending bill. all of these things take time tha

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garrett for your research and book. i can't understand why this organization's existence was not written about before. am i wrong? was there more written that i don't know of? >> no. i had one of those extraordinary moments as a historian when i realized there was a book that was huge that had never been written before. i couldn't believe it hadn't been written. there was a chapter about them in another book called allied commander by the great military historian alan deere. but there was no book about them. i think the reason there was no book about them is not only because they were top secret but because the amount of work that went into this was awesome. they weren't their own fighting unit. in other words, when i was talking about d-day, i had the story of peter masters going to root out the machine gun nests, i would have to go to all the different war diaries from all the different commando units to verify the oral histories of these men were, in fact, true historically. it was like wading through hundreds of war

leah garrett. thank you for joining us and please tell us a little bit about the book before we get into our conversation. >> thank you very much particularly because some of the women i read about in the book have archival. they were interviewed by ambrose for his book as well so speak briefly about the ex-troops. they were created in 1942 when the war was going poorly for the brits and they knew they needed to do something extreme. they decided to create the allied command unit which would be the size of a commando unit of people had been displaced and traumatized by the the polish commander unit of british commander unit but they decided they would create a german-speaking unit and what ended up happening was this german-speaking unit would end up being comprised almost entirely of jewish and austrian jewish refugees from europe. these were people who came to united kingdom in their transports where their parents sent them over to get them save and they made their way alone as teenagers by thems

so this is going to be a momentous day, garrett.e highest nation's honor. so i think you will feel that emotion and that service today. i've been speaking to people who worked with him in the bush administrations, the obama administrations, i say. how would you characterize him? one person said, character above all, garrett. >> kristen, thank you. having three presidents in the front row alone is quite the tribute. general honore, what can you tell us about the lasting impact that general powell had on the military. particularly, i think about him as the singular person with so many firsts as an african-american leader in the military. > well, he's a general of our time and he lived the american story. son of immigrant parents from jamaica rose to the highest level of our military as well as a diplomatic core. he set the standards for the 21st century for war fighting, with taking the complex and making it simple. if you go to war, you need to figure out how to get out. he's a remarkable man and a soldier's soldier. >> a soldier's s

haake, garrett, thank you so much.ning me now is new jersey democratic congressman tom mal-i malinowsky. tom, i know the repeal of s.a.l.t. will be beneficial for people in new york and new jersey, i live in that area and i know how housing prices are in that part of the country, and i know it would benefit you and your district. but how do you talk to the rest of the country as a democrat, as a democrat who said we're repealing the tax cuts for the wealthy from the trump plan, when two-thirds of the people making more than a million dollars, two-thirds of the people that benefit from this, are making more than a million dollars, how do you say to them that no, this is for the middle class? >> can i start with a little history, katy? >> sure. >> so folks should know that from the very first day we had a national income tax, when abe lincoln instituted it in 1861, we had this principle that state and local taxes would be fully deductible. the principle is if the state has already taken your money, the federal government

i'm going to use it with garrett. garrett, let's talk about the soup as kelly o'donnell just put it about build back better. number one, it seems as if -- let's use the soup metaphor -- nancy pelosi is throwing in a whole bunch of ingredients that the senate is going to end up taking out system is plan still they're going to go ahead and do exactly what progressives said they wouldn't let themselves do, which is vote on a bill that's never going to become law? >> reporter: i think that's entirely possible. what we're waiting on now is the cbo score. that will be the next marker before this bill can get a house vote, likely before the end of this week. it seems certain in the senate that soup will be put through a screen and all the good stuff in the view of some progressives might come out of it. you could see the family leave portion of it potentially coming back out. remember, that was something that was left out of the frame work, added back in on the house side, but might need to joe manchin buzzsaw on the senate

but garrett tenney. he's there in kenosha, wisconsin. hi, garrett. >> good afternoon. the judge told the jury this all boils down to self-defense, telling them if they find that kyle rittenhouse acted lawfully in the top offenses, it's over. they don't have anywhere to go from there in terms of these lesser charges that they're being allowed the consider. we saw that over and over again throughout the prosecution's closing argument. hammering home this idea that rittenhouse forfeited the self-defense argument by being the aggressor in these interactions and by the actions that he took put himself in a situation where he was defending himself from dangers that he created himself. this is particularly true in the case of joseph rosenbaum, the prosecution lays out the case that he was the aggressor. with rosenbaum, they claim that moments before he came at him, that kyle rittenhouse turned around and raised his gun towards rosenbaum when he heard a gunshot. here's a sound bike of binger making the argument. >> under wisconsin law, you're not allowed to run around and poin

garrett, let me start with you. to me, watching kevin mccarthy over the last five years, you can see just how much he has had to capitulate to this growing fringe movement who clearly has more power over him than ever before. >> well, chuck, it's clear that he's right where the majority of his party is. that's the reality here. mccarthy told us in that same press conference that he spoke with former president trump this morning, said he called him from the golf course. he talked about restoring those other members to their committees and he really bristled when i asked him why the only member to be punished in any way by the republican conference this year was liz cheney for speaking out against donald trump. i want to play for you some of what he said in response. >> the only republican member who's been in any way punished by the conference this year is liz cheney who lost -- >> did she lose a committee. >> she lost her role in the republican conference, i know you were there. >> that's an election. >> she didn't

we'll audit along with garrett. here is a small example. >> please don't. >> i want to go back to when we were respected around the world. i want to go back when we didn't have north korea testing weapons. this day is only one black american elected to congress and to the senate, tim scott. madame speaker, i know your body knows how to impeach, you have done it twice. there are two families that grow 50% of all the carrots in all the country. there is no such thing, they're big carrots and you chop them and you buy them. i have a friend serves in the senate right before covid. with the military general and the chinese communist army, you know what that general said to him? america, you are weak. you are weak, america. you are weak because you believe in god and you take fentanyl. >> that was one of the minutes from the eight hours and 32. baby carrots -- >> what you are saying yes, this does remind me of churchill where he says the battle of fran is over and the battle of britain is about to begin, asparagus, aspara

i'm garrett haake. president biden has once again been forced to turn his attention back to the pandemic. as u.s. health officials brace for the arrival of this new and little studied omicron variant. it's going to be days, perhaps more likely weeks before experts can confidently say whether or not this new variant is significantly more dangerous than the delta strain which is dominant now. but that hasn't stopped governments and health authorities from taking action. as the world health organization

garrett tenney with more. garrett?now been filed against travis scott and the organizerses of the astroworld music festival. the number is expected to grow. among the claims attorneys are making is that organizers did not have medical or security personnel for a crowd of that size. 50,000 people were add the concert friday night and hundreds were injured as the crowd surged towards the stage making it almost impossible for folks to move and many could hardly breathe. many started passing out. it was like dominos with bodies being buried or trampled as the show went on for a half an hour. >> struggling to breathe. told my boyfriend like you got to get out of here. there's no way out. once you were in, the only way out was to go up. he lifted me over the crowd. basically crowd surfed my unconscious body where a security guard pulled me over. >> over the weekend, travis scott said he was devastated and had no bad things were in the crowd. he cancelled an upcoming show for this weekend in las vegas and announced that he pl

joining me is garrett haake. political national correspondent and contributor betsy woodruff swann and former prosecutor and msnbc glen kerschner. >> chris, has you pointed out, these potential witnesses will have some time before they have to be deposed. it would be that thanksgiving week when they'd be expected to provide documents. depositions wouldn't come until mid december. we know there's perhaps more outstanding subpoenas from this committee that we could get our hand on relatively soon. late last week the chairman, bennie thompson, told reporters he had signed off on 20 subpoenas. these are only six. the expectation is we could learn about the continued effort of this committee to pursue, as you see in this batch of subpoenas, both high and low-level figures in the trump campaign and some longstanding members of the trump orbit. of the six the only person to respond to any of our requests was bennie bennie kerik who sai found the press release to be defamatory. whether he'll cooperate, we shall see. >> w

i reached out to garrett. where is garrett? we're going to call you appear in just a few. brin and danny will ask all of them to share some thoughts with us in a few but garrick reminded me of a conversation that we had on our trip to l.a. where you were supposed to be working and he came -- >> i was working. >> you were. he came by to check on you on your progress, had a laptop and cepheid is really powerful conversation about motherhood, about mothering, and about what feels like a trauma that we inherit from our mothers, right? so there's that you that is a daughter and inherit is you that is a mother. i know the large majority of folks are talking specifically about your mother mother. >> not biological. >> so folks home in the that singular type mothering, right? your biological mother and want to understand the relationship between you and her. i want to focus on one of your other mothers that you talk about in the book, right, take her in the context of movement. so often we talk about mothers of the movement. we talk about sisters in the movement. we talk about the

we go live to garrett tenney in houston where investigations are now underway, garrett? reporter: yeah, liz, the number of lawsuits seems to be going up almost by the hour, at least 14 people now are suing travis scott and organizers of the astroworld music festival for injuries that they sustained during the concert. these lawsuits argue that organizers failed to create a safe and secure environment for the concert, and they are almost certainly going to point out there were concerns about the crowd before this festival even got started simply because of what its been like in previous years. we saw some of that from the moment the gates opened when fans tore down barriers and stormed past security. according to the new york times, houston's police chief was so concerned about potential crowd control problems that he went to travis scott's trailer to talk about it. despite those concerns, and despite police and fire official s declaring a mass casualty event later that night, nobody stopped the show. scott was on stage performing for more than 30 minutes while people wer

>> bret: garrett tenney in chicago. garrett, thank you. speaking of chicago.ooke county, illinois has surpassed the 1,000 mark in homicides this year. this is the first time the county has eclipsed 1,000 homicides in more than 30 years. almost 800 of those homicides were in the city of chicago. again, with one month to go in 2021. most foreign policy experts have long believed that china, not russia, is the most dangerous threat to the u.s. with each week in recent weeks, based on china's actions, that prediction is coming true. tonight, a fox news exclusive first look at the reagan national defense survey. it uncovers a huge public relations problem for the pentagon. here's national security correspondent jennifer griffin. >> a new national defense survey conducted by the ronald reagan institute found that for the first time a minority of americans, only 45%, have a great deal of trust in the u.s. military. down 25% in the past three years. confidence in the military among republicans fell by 34 points to 53%. the declining trust in the military is occurring

garrett haake is on capitol hill >> reporter: president biden tonight celebrating two victories at the white house. the milwaukee bucks nba championship and the bipartisan infrastructure bill he hopes will be a political slam dunk. >> are you feeling momentum >> i'm always optimistic it's going to be a tough fight, and it ain't over yet as they say. the old expression goes but i feel good. >> the motion is adopted. >> reporter: the late friday vote a possible turning point for the president who saw democrats lose the governorship in virginia last week and his own approval slide to a new low, 38% in a poll out today democrats trying to bounce out of a week they hope was rock bottom with a packed month ahead in congress the house plans to vote on the president's $1.75 trillion climate and family care bill the week of november 15th. sending it to the senate both chambers must pass bills to avoid a shutdown by december 3rd and congress expects to have to raise the debt ceiling again before year's end or face default. republicans focus on opposing the larger spending bill. >> the american p

i want to bring in pete williams and garrett haake. garrett, let me start with you.k us through what we know about meadows level of cooperation. any indication that the threat of a contempt referral may be what sparked this from him? >> reporter: by parsing the experience from the committee's chairman announcing the cooperation from meadows and the attorney, it's clear he is cooperating a little bit but not as much as the committee would like. the committee tells us that meadows has handed over some documents. he'll sit for an initial deposition soon. but they say he won't be able to hide behind claims of privilege. they want to get everything they have to ask him answered. meadows attorney says he hopes the committee will continue to respect meadows' claims of privilege and will essentially ask him questions he can answer. so, hallie, it's pretty clear here the committee won't get everything they want. as to whether the threat of contempt here moved meadows, it's hard to say for sure. he certainly would have more to lose by being charged ultimately with contempt tha

correspondent and "weekend today" cohost, kristen welker, nbc senior congressional correspondent, garrett haake, and jonathan lemire, host of "way too early." let's talk about where we stand on the social spending program and gosar. >> they're waiting on two things, the cbo, the congressional budget office to finish their report on the total spending numbers. that's something the moderate members of their conference were waiting for. and they're waiting on the privilege scrub, which is a technical portion of the senate process that again members had wanted to have that all buttoned up before they voted. it could come, a vote, on this as early as today. the debate is ongoing, even now. it might also slip until friday. my rule on congress is when you're talking about how soon something might happen, you should always take the over. and i think that's the caveat i would place here. on gosar, a tale of two different sets of reactions from the leaders of the two parties here today. you heard there from speaker pelosi, talking about this shameful day that we came to yesterday, that the house ca

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so they are casting a wide net here, as i mentioned to garrett. the question is when they go this wide, are they going to be able to get enough answers? does it need to be narrower to get more specific answers in the time frame that they have? remember, with congress maybe changing hands next year, that's the expectation at least as of now. this committee doesn't have that much time to do quite a lot of work. >> i think you're right about the race to the -- to the finish and it feels silly, actually sometimes to talk about it being a race when the election for the midterms is next november. but this committee is trying to get its answers. it's trying to flush out the details of what is a narrative many of us how on television. but behind the scenes there is a lot more. what's crucial, katy, about the subpoenas this week, the monday and the tuesday batches, especially the oath keeper and proud boys subpoenas is this is an effort to get at the people who actually have been accused of planning the event. keep in mind that roger stone, who was in -- s

lester >> garrett haake at the capitol. thank you. >>> in just 60 seconds, a late update on the president's health as history was made today at the white house. after almost half a century is the mystery over jimmy hoffa's disappearance closer to being solved? >>> there is breaking news tonight about president biden's health after a physical his doctor says the president remains healthy and fit, but noted some issues. the vice president also making history today while the president was at walter reed. kelly o'donnell is at the white house. and kelly, you asked the president about it today. >> reporter: and the president told me he feels great. on the eve of his 79th birthday the white house physician released a summary of the tests and exams done today while mr. biden is deemed fit and healthy, the president has a stiffened gait and ongoing acid reflux which contributes to frequent coughing we have seen. today's checkup made history. for 85 minutes while the president was under sedation for his colonoscopy, he transferred a

. >> in a way, garrett, this felt like the kickoff for the plid term elections. the message you heard from president biden is going to be heard over and over again up and down through the democrats as they try to sell the public on what they feel are their biggest legislative achievements. you're going to see over the next week president biden, v.p. kamala harris, and top officials fanning out. a lot of battleground states, politically speaking. they're trying to get across to people of the magnitude of what he and democrats feel that they've been able to accomplish. as republicans we should note on this bipartisan infrastructure deal. they're trying to get across to people how this is going to affect their lives directly. a lot of this is going to take some time to really kick in. we're talking about five-year funding. a state like new hampshire, a ten-year plan. meaning some of this will be in the pipeline but went really be getting warnd for some time. it started snowing as (was coming out to speak. here in new hampshire they have the largest amount of home he

garrett tenney reporting live from houston. garrett? >> yeah, martha.s for the eight people that were killed but could be weeks before we know the cause and manner of death. as the criminal investigation into this tragedy continues, the mounting legal troubles facing travis scott and the event organizers are growing. 14 people that were injured have filed lawsuits now claiming that scott and the events promoters failed to provide a safe and security environment for fans, this is not the first time livenation entertainment has been accused of that. according to "the new york times," houston's police chief was so concerned about crowd control problems that he went to travis scott's trailer to talk about it. but the show went on. some folks were fighting for their lives. >> i started struggling to breathe. i told my boyfriend, like, we have to get out of here. there's no way out. once you were in, the only way out was to go up. >> travis did pause his performance several times when he saw folks that needed help. over the weekend, he said at the time, that

garrett in houston. hello, garrett.orter: hey, mike, police say that that incident with the security why is why narcotics division is involved in the investigation. it's really important to stress that at this points the just too early to say whether or not that played in the role in stampede that ultimately killed 8 people. we have heard from dozens of folks who were there at the concert who didn't have a needle stabbed into them or anything and said that they felt like they were going to die because just how hard it was to breathe with that huge crowd pressing forward towards the stage. the youngest of the victims were 14 and 16 years old and the others early to mid 0's. of the 13 people still in the hospital last night. 5 of them are under 18 as well. that kind of youth has made this tragedy all the more devastating. >> this is an artist that we know has a following amongst young people in particular young people with bright futures. those were the people that were at the event, had a good time and no one -- no paren

joining me now to discuss, garrett graff. nice to have you on the show.n without the federal charges by the way. i want to play something for you and get your reaction because here is an attorney for several of these defendants today. listen to this. >> the defendants in the case, none of them have money. none of them will get anything. >> destitute. money is a huge motivator. will this actually be able to have the detouring? >> people that will organize or thinking of organizing similar gatherings in the future will think twice about and this is something where the money is one thing, the distraction for these defendants of these legal proceedings has kept them from being more abctive in this hate mongering movement in the last couple years and it's certainly going to limit their ability to participate in it going forward. so, you know, this is a verdict that is a win for the good guys. >> well, i mean, you have talked about this as seeing kind of a straight line, a through line with this case and a lot of the other cases we're seeing right now. tell me

now to discuss the takeaways from this election is cbs news chief washington correspondent major garrett major let's talk about virginia. how much was the republican glenn youngkin able to exploit concerns about education, cultural, social issues? >> let me give you a couple of numbers to indicate how much virginia has moved in one calendar year. last year, president biden carried suburban voters by eight percentage points. glenn youngkin carried them by 6. a 14-point swing in one year. president biden won independents by 19 point, glenn youngkin won them by four to five. social issues are important but i think the education one in virginia was acute and important. why? because it was a proxy for a lot of things. covid fatigue. lots of parents k-12. what are the rules? how can i get my kids back in school? other parts-- how was race being taught or racism. it's a very tender issue, particularly in virginia with its history of race, the confederacy, et cetera. and the transgender issues. it became a larger question of are school boards listening to empowering parents or sort of giving the

correspondent garrett tenney has the latest from kenosha, wisconsin. good evening, garrett.aker shannon, after more than two weeks of arguments, this case is now in the hands of the jury and as they begin their operations, the judge made it clear that claims of self-defense will be a deciding factor in their deliberations. >> if he was acting lawfully, in self-defense, the ball game is over. >> prosecutors tried to poke holes in the self-defense argument by laying other narrative that rittenhouse was the aggressor and it was for three people he shot who were acting in self-defense. >> under wisconsin law, you're not allowed to run around and point your gun at people. this is the provocation. this is what starts this incident. the defendant rushes in and immediately points the gun. one of the things to keep in mind, the defendant provokes the incident, he loses the right to self-defense. you cannot claim self-defense against a danger you create. >> the defense fired back calling it a political case with prosecutors rushing to judgment in trying to find someone to blame for th

good evening, garrett. >> bret, good evening to you. after 8 hours of deliberations, the only hint we have for where those discussions are is a request the jury made today for copies of the jury instructions, specifically the sections dealing with self-defense. this morning, kyle rittenhouse played a direct role in selecting the individuals who will decide his fate by you will pulling numbers at random from an old wooden tumbler. the jury is comprised of seven women, five men all persons white with one person of color. as we await that verdict a lot of people are on edge racing for the potential of more unrest. >> people are worried that we're going to have the same problem we had burning the city down. >> i pray that people aren't going to come in from other states and do more damage. >> none of us had any clue what happened last year was going to happen. and, you know, i think we need to be prepared. i wouldn't under estimate anybody. >> local and state leaders are trying to reassure folks here if there is any unrest this time around

>> thanks very much, garrett tenney joined by attorney brian claypool. good to have you with us today. as you watch what we've all watched this afternoon because this case has riveted the attention of so many, what is your take-away from today so far? >> well, this is a boxing match. right now before closing arguments, the vigilante killings are winning. the prosecution has just had a disaster the last couple days, martha. starting with if you recall a day ago, one of the guy that was shot, gage, his first name, he testifies that he's pointing a gun at rittenhouse. i mean, that testimony alone, martha, might result in what is called a directed verdict at the end of the case. the judge can decide to throw out the charge. then you have hernandez today coming in to testify. he doesn't have a bone to pick with anybody. he says that rosenbaum is the aggressor. there's commentary about let's kill rittenhouse. you know, shoot me. you know, this evidence clearly supports a self-defense argument. so i'm not sure what prosecutors are thinking when they brought the

>> bret: we will follow it garrett, thank you. meantime another trial, the defense has rested in the trial of three white men accused of murdering a black man in southern georgia. today the man who shot ahmed arbery conceded the victory did not threaten him in any way when they first met correspondent steve harrigan is live in brunswick, georgia, good evening, steve. >> good evening, bret. sundayenly this trial is moving quickly today was travis mcmichael cross-examination under the stand. the prosecutor really trying to undercut the idea that michael might have painted in self-defense. she'll painted a portrait on the one side you a ahmad arbery 25 years old running shorts and shirt empty-handed by no backpack by no accounts never threatened anyone, never brandished a weapon. on the other side two trucks. one pickup truck rammed arbery at least four times according to the police report and the other truck mcmichael father and son. father standing in the back with a pistol shouting cut him off. son driving with a shotgun. the pros

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garrett? >> yeah, neil. you can see a handful of folks are outside the courthouse here. really most of the crowd cleared out quick after. there was an outpouring of emotion from those folks that had been gathering outside the courthouse all week on both sides. folks out here to support kyle rittenhouse and those hoping to see him convicted. when the verdict was announced, a lot of people left happy, cheering, honking horns. a lot of folks left very upset and frustrated. most of the folks have gone home. at this point, it's been very peaceful. a lot of emotions and tense, high-running feelings and emotions outside the courthouse. there's not been any major issues. we'll keep an eye on it. action we saw last year, there were real problems. there was an outpouring of emotion in the courthouse as well. the jury's decision came down, kyle rittenhouse, falling down on to the table,over come with emotion. just behind them, a few rows, his mother also being overcome with emotion as the verdict came down. we're also starting to get reaction from folks here in the community as wel

>> neil: thanks, garrett.ance of where we stand now beginning with the fallout from the rittenhouse wait as they're calling it. katie is here, the former federal prosecutor. also ted williams, fox news contributor news contributor, d.c. homicide detective. ted, on the rittenhouse trial and the fact this has gone on three days, i don't know what to make of it but what does your get tell you? >> well, you know, we're left really, neil, to only speculate about what is going on. as a lawyer having dealt with many, many jurors, i can tell you sometimes and most of the times the speculation is wrong. as we look at this case, the first thing that this jury had to make a decision on was did kyle rittenhouse act with self-defense. if they found in all all five counts that he acted in self-defense, they weren't to proceed any further. the fact that we're in day three, it tells me there's a deep analytical analysis going on with this jury. may very well be a mistrial in the makings. because i would have expected by now t

martha. >> martha: thanks, garrett.former prosecutor in new jersey and criminal defense attorney, bob bianchi. good to have you with us today. heading in here in terms of background, i'm struck by the governor's tweet. i was listening to reporters that covered a lot of the riots, the terrible situations that we saw across this country of businesses burning last summer. they said that they went to minneapolis but never saw anything like what they saw in kenosha. when we get to kenosha, the striking thing is a that while these these businesses were being burned and people were looting and breaking windows, there was no police and no national guard anywhere for days. now you hear tony evers has 500 national guard on stand by. you wonder if this whole thing would be in the court right now if that kind of protection had been brought in when it was needed. that's when kyle rittenhouse decided to bring his gun to his father's hometown of kenosha to see what he could do. what are your thoughts when you hear about this jury and

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good evening, garrett. >> shannon, good evening to you.tions running high both inside and outside of the courtroom. kyle rittenhouse now 18 years old and facing life in prison was overcome with emotion as he heard the jury's decision to find him not guilty of all charges against him. judge bruce schroeder praising the jury for its work and deciding a case under intense national scrutiny from both the public and the media. >> all of you, i couldn't have asked for a better jury to work with. and it has truly been my pleasure just in terms of your -- the attentiveness and cooperation that you gave to us. justifies the confidence that the founders of our country placed. so, i dismiss you at this time. >> a spokesman for rittenhouse said the young man always planned to take the stand to tell his side of the story. >> everybody wanted to pretend like they knew, so that was his opportunity to tell everybody, to tell everybody what was in his head and what was in his heart. >> rittenhouse's attorneys said while they are pleased with this verdict,