and "the threat matrix: the fbi at war in the age of global terror," by garrett graff. thank you both very much. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> that was garrett graff and david shipler discussing the rights of the people. in this a few minutes, we'll be back with a panel on civil war perspective from the 2011 annapolis book festival. >> yes, i've had an interesting and fun life, and i don't owe any of it to the feminists, i'll tell you that. [laughter] feminism has become a very hot topic. i suppose the reason for that is sarah palin. feminists cannot resist attacking sarah palin. it's not just because she's a republican and a conservative. it's because she's a successful woman. she has a cool husband, a lot of kids, a great career, making lots of money. she is, by any standard, a success. and they can't stand it. and acid in their wounds is that she's pretty too. [laughter] so the feminists don't believe that women can be successful in the united states. they think women are oppressed by the patriarchy. they are held down by mean men, and they need the governm