i want to try to go back to garrett haake. garrett traveled with this group of organizers from vienna to washington, d.c. garrett, what did you hear at the vienna subway station and the organizers of this rally? >> reporter: hey, david. i apologize for the audio issues here. we are in the middle of this protest and in front of the cops and in front of this protest. geoff laid it out pretty well. kessler says this is goabout fr speech, not about race. but he needs to tell his followers that. i interviewed several people here to attend this rally, including someone who said they believe that white americans are the founding stock of the united states. and that everybody else is somehow less than that. these are folks who say that they have backgrounds with storm front, the kkk web organization. i mean, the idea that this is not a racist rally is undercut by what some of the attendees themselves are saying. the question of what you're going to see and hear today, that is all of a sudden to me, at least, a very big open question, b

garrett haake is close by to where this is happening, i believe. garrett, what are we seeing here? looks like counterprotesters there with signs. getting into some small scuffle there with law enforcement. >> reporter: yeah, david, this is. what everyone here was hoping to avoid. you'relooking atrk the access t the locked portion of the white house. police came up to move the bicycle racks that had been blocking this off, antifa protesters surged into that space. some are holding shields. some are using sticks they used for their flags. some are throwing things at police officers. the plan here, not publicly disclo disclosed, had been for the police to escort these rallygoers back out to the metro station. these antifa folks won't let that happen. they completely blocked off the exit on the side. and even as i'm speaking i'm seeing more things being thrown at the police officers. from my vantage point, david, i can't actually see any of the unite the right rallygoers back there. they're probably at least 20,30r feet behind the cops if they're that close. not in range of anything be

we're going to start with nbc's garrett haake with the white nationalist rally. and a lot happening there. what are you seeing? >> reporter: hey, richard. i'm actually on the edge of that rally. we are blocked by the police on one side from getting any closer. what you're seeing right now is the arrival, or more accurately, the return of a group of antifa counter protesters. they gathered maybe 20 or 30 minutes ago. best probably to think of them as patrolling the outer edges of this park. d.c. police have made it their mission, and they have been very clear about this, that their big goal here today is to keep all of these groups separate on. on the way in, you had this self-contained almost parade of d.c. police, escorting the white

garre >> garrett haake. >> thank you. i couldn't see his face, so it was harder. >> no worries. >> there are substantiative issues at play. health care looms so large. and a lot of suburban women care about health care. the other thing we're not talking about at all, but suburban women are starting to respond to the family separations. so i think that could be in play, as well. keep in mind that balderson, just last month, said he wanted to raise the eligibility age for medicare and social security. and, of course, that was a bomb that blew up for him. and he's tried to dial that back and he has his mother in an ad for him right now. but o'connor has an ad that compares him to kasich in terms of his willingness to work with others. and supporting what governor kasich, a republican did on medicaid. so you can't look at this one district and predict what's going to happen around the country, certainly. and not around the state. but, again, this has not been -- as was already mentioned, this congressional district has not be

garrett haake working overtime for us. thanks. >>> voters headed to the polls in several key primary, including the kansas gubernatorial matchup. pitting incumbent governor jeff coyler against kris kobach. kobach has a narrow lead of about 700 votes this mornle. he is an immigration hard-liner and served as vice-chairman on president trump's vote fraud commission. he had key endorsements from the nra and kansas political icon bob dole. the victor will face democrat state senator lauilyra nabbed t democratic nomination. meanwhile, no major surprises out of the primaries in michigan, missouri, or >>> breaking news out of new jersey. a manhunt is under way for at least one suspeho ambushed two police officers in camden. fortunately, both officers aren't expected to survive. police say a gunman approached two plains clothes delved inside an unmarked vehicle sitting at a red light and fired as many as 25 rounds in an unprovoked attack. one of the officers returned fire as the suspect fled the scene in a white van, but police sa

i want to get back over to garrett haake. garrett, you heard some of the reporting coming from viq and some of the messaging from one of the what he estimates to be a couple dozen protesters there. how are the counter protesters answering to those sorts of messages that we just heard from one of the white nationalist protesters? >> i would say the messaging in response is not particularly nuanced, richard. these people and their views are not welcome here. the signs of these antifa protesters range from the much more mild, no hate, pushing back on hate. the euphemistic, "no hoods in my woods," referencing kkk hoods, to much more specific. the biggest banner here, the best way to -- takes a bullet to bash a fash is the big banner sign one of these groups are putting out here. look, there is no question here that this is -- i think -- essentially meant to counter balance the intimidation factor that sometimes takes place in these white nationalist marches. they want people inside the security corden behind our camera to know the

before we were interrupted by the republican candidate, we were talking to garrett haake at democratic headquarters. garrett, you were talking about how it has to be half victory speech, half concession speech, although officially neither. >> reporter: that's right, danny o'connor leaving the door open to continue campaigning. the speech he gave sounded like his typical stump speech. he considers this a midway point in the race towards november. you didn't hear that from troy balderson at all. you heard much more of a traditional victory speech with the acknowledgement that he's got to do this all over again in november. the other big thing you heard from balderson, i think this is important, the big thank you to donald trump. you showed the president's tweet earlier, brian. i think you would be hard pressed to find a republican in ohio who disagrees with the central premise, namely that it was donald trump who was able to carry troy balderson across the finish line here. he did not have a great last couple of days campaigning. but he did get a big boost from the president who in some

garrett haake it on the ground at o'connor headquarters wes terville, ohio. it looks quiet behind you. what was it like to be out there tonight? i'm the last man standing. they've turned off the lights. everybody has gone home. a few hours ago, this was a pretty bumping party. democrats really felt like they had a shot here tonight. it the last 48 hours of this race, everything seemed to be breaking their way. the republican candidate stumbled into a gaffe about franklin county the night before the election started. their candidate had been all over the place in national and local media. they felt like they were fighting out the last few days of this campaign on democratic issue turf talking about health care, they were talking about protecting it social security. that's one of the reasons that democrats nationally by the way like what they see here today. they like the issue set that was fought over in this campaign. they're also going to like the enthusiasm a lot. you talked about that big franklin county number, 65% of the vote. you saw that reflected arou

. >> let me bring in msnbc's garrett haake who's at the white house for us. it does appear we're getting some resolution in the future. are we getting closer? is that just talk? >> here's my maybe in the answer, you and i are old enough to remember when the white house or rather the president's attorneys were talking about making a decision on whether or not the president would sit down with mueller at the end of june. we're now here in august and that decision still has not been made. they have been delaying this time line here and stretching it out to some great length. although rudy giuliani's comments yesterday campaigning for house candidate of all things in new hampshire were interesting. essentially trying to call robert mueller's bluff. saying if you've got the goods, now is the time. here's some of giuliani extending that poker metaphor a bit. >> we believe that the investigation should be brought to a close. we think we're at the end of it. they should render their report. put up -- i mean, i guess playing poker, we say put up or shut up, what do yo

msnbc's garrett haake on the ground for us in columbus, ohio.ns the district by 11 points in 2016. why is that not carried over to the election? what are you hearing there? >> yes, craig, that's been one of the questions we've had for voters here. it's been a steady stream at this precinct. voters here are not used to seeing us here. they're not used to their races being a story. that's how dominant republicans have been here. really for a generation. you talk about president trump winning by 11 points here. pat teabury, the former congressman here, used to regularly win by 25 or 30 points. something has changed here. donald trump has been a big part of it and tonight's race will be much closer than that. >> troy balderson. he is the guy. he is the guy that's going to do things. >> reporter: president trump on saturday delivering a buckeye boost for republican troy balderson, now locked in a bruising battle with democrat danny o'connor in this last election before the midterms. >> danny o'connor, that's a beauty, he's another beauty. this is wha

garrett haake recently visited clyde and he joins us now with more on the situation there. at's going on in clyde and how the people there view this trade war, garrett. >> reporter: clyde is where the u.s.' biggest manufacturer of washing machines is based. this ought to be boom time for them. the economy is humming, people are buying houses, they are buying appliances, they never run out of dirty clothes. but they are caught in this tug of war on trade and that has everyone in this small town keeping a very nervous eye on what washington does next. welcome to whirlpool county, clyde, ohio. population 6,000. clyde whirlpool plant, population 3,000. >> what i think they're invested in the community too. whirlpool goes, clyde goes. >> reporter: the city's finance director says two-thirds of his budget comes from taxes paid by whirlpool, its workers and the businesses that work with it. we're standing in a park sponsored by whirlpool's foundation. is this indicative of just how deep their roots are here in clyde? >> i would say yes. obviously with whirlpool being here 65 plus y

garrett haake, my colleague, covering the protests for us today. i'm joined by todd johnson, he's the editorial and we have an associate professor of anthropology studies and shermichael singleton is with me. garrett stressed how small this group was, calling it more of a club more than a rally. no indication that what they said was heard because of the size of the counterprotests that we saw there at lafayette. your reaction to that. just the opposition that we saw come out in force in washington, d.c. today. >> well, in the words of dr. king, they chose the light over the darkness. as we said earlier though, these individuals still have a great deal of presence on social media. i think there was also some earlier reporting that garrett did where they said they -- some of them had their faces covered. why not wear a hood? that was the purpose of the kkk hood, so you could not see who the individuals were. so we see that the nature of white supremacy and white supremacist activism is still cowardice in form. why didn't the people show up in washingt

let's bringing in garrett haake, our correspondent who has been standing by at danny o'connor campaign headquarters. garrett, i presume the party is thinning out. and i presume win, lose or draw the attention now goes to november. >> yeah, brian. the party is over here. it's just our team here keeping the lights on. this race isn't over. we heard from both candidates tonight in the nonconcession concession speech and the not quite honest victory speech that wasn't quite a victory speech that this is not over. this race immediately transitions into november. you can think of this like a late primary almost. setting up these two candidates again with now the republican potentially depending how all that recall business goes being able to call himself an incumbent in this case. but democrats like some of what they have seen on the ground here as they go into november in this race and in a lot of other races that will look like this in similar suburban counties. they feel like they fought a lot of this race especially the last couple of weeks on their issue turf, if you will, talking about

garrett haake it on the ground at o'connor headquarters wes terville, ohio. it looks quiet behind you. what was it like to be out there tonight? i'm the last man standing. they've turned off the lights. everybody has gone home. a few hours ago, this was a pretty bumping party. democrats really felt like they had a shot here tonight. it the last 48 hours of this race, everything seemed to be breaking their way. the republican candidate stumbled into a gaffe about franklin county the night before the election started. their candidate had been all over the place in national and local media. they felt like they were fighting out the last few days of this campaign on democratic issue turf talking about health care, they were talking about protecting it social security. that's one of the reasons that democrats nationally by the way like what they see here today. they like the issue set that was fought over in this campaign. they're also going to like the enthusiasm a lot. you talked about that big franklin county number, 65% of the vote. you saw that reflected arou

. >> i'm joined now by garrett haake on capitol hill. look, we have all known that lindsey graham and john mccain did a lot of things together. they were great friends and often the joint thorns in the side to pretty much anybody else who wasn't on their side. but that was -- that was something we don't often see from lindsey graham. >> reporter: no, that's really true, ali. i have seen more emotion like that on the senate floor in the last two days then in all the rest of the time i have been up here combined. so much of it, this outpouring of love from people who john mccain was not always on the same side with. and even when he was, he liked to give you a hard time. he used to joke about lindsey graham and call him his illegitimate son. the way mccain showed affection was sometimes with a sharp elbow, but it's part of the reason he has been so beloved up here across the political spectrum. and that ability to reach such a diverse group of americans with his own personna was one of the other things that lindsey graham highlighted in hi

. >>> msnbc's garrett haake is over on capitol hill. we are hearing from lawmakers, particularly those close to mccain, and especially lind dse graham, who was on the "today" show this morning, really john mccain's best friend. >> reporter: he's been a spokesperson for the mccain family. graham's comments today were interesting. what he did was address how mccain might feel about this back and forth with president trump. frankly, defended himself a little bit against accusations that he's been too close to the president, by comparing the way he is trying to work with donald trump to the way john mccain tried to work with barack obama after that election in 2008 that he lost. felt like it was his duty to the country. here was lindsey graham on the "today" show this morning. >> i'll be a bridge when i can. >> senator mccain never got mad at you for that? >> wouldn't have mattered. i would have done it anyway. i'm too much like him. the bottom line is, john has shown that it is not about you. country first. it means that even if it is inco

this is another race where the trump factor was on full display from columbus ohio is garrett haake who has been covering this one for us. you had a late night, thanks for having an early morning for us too. talk through where we go from here. >> reporter: yeah, hallie, we're in overtime on this race right now. votes are in but they're not all counted. so ohio officials are going to be going through about 3,400 provisional ballots, some more absentee ballots that may have been mailed in before the deadline but weren't here in time to get counted last night. those ballots are probably unlikely to change the ultimate winner here in this race, but they may push this into a recount situation. in ohio, if you're win a half a percentage point, that's a mandatory recount of all the votes. so this thing could drag on for quite a while. now that being said, none of those factors stopped republicans led by the president from claiming victory last night trying to take the momentum, slim as it might have been, out of what looks like a very narrow victory. you had the president tweeting late last ni

i want to start with garrett haake. garrett, you started your day at the metro meeting this small group of protesters, frankly. can you walk us through what you've seen over the course of today? >> sure, kasie. it was clear from the word go that this rally was not going to be everything that it was advertised as. when organizers put it together, they had told people to meet at the metro in vienna, virginia around 2:00 so they could come into the city as a big group and a show of force and for their own protection. they got their protection from mpd once they made it to the district of columbia. there was no show of force. only two dozen or so with jason kessler the organizer of charlottesville last year, and doing the unite the white rally 2.0 here in d.c. today, the disorganization, the disunity, the lack of message was clear from the start. most of these folks showed up. they didn't even have metro cards so they marched into the vienna metro station and then marched right up to the metro card machine and had to slow th

joining me now is msnbc's garrett haake. , is the white house explaining why this all happened now, why it hasn't happened earlier and what it all signifies? >> reporter: on the short-term part of that, sarah sanders told me this is the first time they could get the national security bigwigs all together in the same room at the same time to do a bro briefing. the white house has concerned for some time but the counterargument to that is why hasn't the president been talking about it. that's part of what made today's briefing so extraordinary, really both of those points. my colleagues who have been at the white house longer than i say they can't remember a time where you had that much national security muscle all on stage at once talking about an issue, but you know contrast that with how little or how dismissively the president talks about that same issue. you heard some of that if you watched that briefing, some of that dichotomy and pnd

garrett haake. garrett, is the white house explaining why this all happened now, why it hasn't happened earlier and what it all signifies? >> reporter: on the short-term part of that, sarah sanders told me this is the first time they could get the national security bigwigs all together in the same room at the same time to do a bro briefing. the white house has concerned for some time but the counterargument to that is why hasn't the president been talking about it. that's part of what made today's briefing so extraordinary, really both of those points. my colleagues who have been at the white house longer than i say they can't remember a time where you had that much national security muscle all on stage at once talking about an issue, but you know contrast that with how little or how dismissively the president talks about that same issue. you heard some of that if you watched that briefing, some of that dichotomy and push and pull between the seriousness with which these white house officials appear

first garrett haake in ohio. >> republicans appearave dodged a bullet in ohio, just barely. th is a race tha shouldn't have been close. this morning only about 2,000 arate these two candidates and they are still counting with that republican leads. the narrowest of now both parties are scrambling to learn whatever they can from this race before onnovember. >>ht i'm going to promise to you that i'm going to work relentlessly -- relentlessly for this 12th congressional district. >> republican troy baldersng delive a delivery speech in ohio last night without a clear-cut victory. n over thet three months, i'm going to do everything i can to keep america great again. >> when all the votes are counted theo senator will likely head to congress continuing republican pay's three-decade long hd on this seat but just barely. he's currently sitting on a lead less than a point. a race too cse to call in a district the president carried by 11. this weekend the president stumping in . >> i'll tell you what, we're going to have a tremendous victory for troy, troy balderson. >> in a tweet l

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. >> we have gather -- garrett haake. most democratic leading around columbus that has got him in hot water right into election day. >> reporter: good old fashion campaign gaffe. saying he didn't want so see someone from franklin county representing the district. franklin county is the democratic heart of this district. but the o'connor campaign has done everything they could to take advantage of it. they sent out 60,000 text messages to their supporters and people who they think might be supporters in franklin county just to make sure heard about it in the race's last 24 hours and they are trying to fill in to this party here, it is a positive atmosphere, it is not the dance party that was. they ran mostly error free baseball especially in the last 48 hours. we are just going to see whether or not this is a case of numbers versus enthusiasm. the democratic base seems to be fired up. >> live there at o'connor headquarters. in kansas, we have chris kobak. in michigan. muslim american public health official is running the d

msnbc's garrett haake joins me from capitol hill. rrett, you were recently in colli clyde which is the home of the america's largest washing machine, whirlpool. >> reporter: yeah, the economy is humming, people are buying houses because of these tear. >> referee:s, because of 30 unpredictability, a lot of folks there telling me they're keeping a nervous eye on washington. welcome to whirlpool country, clyde, ohio, population, 6,000, clyde whirlpool plant, population 3,000. >> the rest of the community, willful goes clyde goes whirlpool. >> reporter: roughly two-thirds of the taxes paid by whirlpool and the workers and businesses within it. >> we're standing in part in whi whirlpool. is that indicative of where they are? >> with whirlpool being here 65 years. >> reporter: you can imagine how thrilled they were when president trump announced he was slapping 25% tariffs on washing machines. sticking it to whirlpool's biggest competitors like lg and samsung. the company's ceo called it without a doubt, a positive catalyst for whirlpool. b

nbc's garrett haake reports where they're counting the provisional ballots. >> reporter: republican troy balderson delivering a victory speech in ohio late last night without a clear-cut victory. >> over the next three months, i'll do everything i can to make america great again. >> reporter: currently sitting on a lead less than a point, the race too close to call in a district president trump carried by 11. >> can you believe how close this is? >> reporter: democrat danny o'connor refusing to concede. >> we're not stopping. tomorrow we rest and then fight through to november! >> reporter: this comes after a major push from the president, stumping in ohio over the weekend. >> i'll tell you what. we're going to have a tremendous victory for troy. troy balderson. >> reporter: in a tweet late last night mr. trump claiming the visit pushed balderson over the top. after my speech there was a big turn to the better. this was supposed to be safe territory for republicans but attitudes here are changing. >> i am almost feeling like the president feels as if he's an autocrat instead of an electe

garrett haake had been up all night in ohio's 12th district. chuck todd also remains with us. garrett, i know you had a late night with vote counting, but this district has been red since ronald reagan was elected. now you have a 1,700-vote margin. the two candidates will face off in november in any case, right? >> reporter: yeah, let's set aside the question of who ultimately wins in the short term here today. as you point out, this race will be run again in november. just the fact that i'm here, that reporters are covering this race, that we're paying attention to this district at all, is an indication of the problems that republicans have as they go into november. as you said, this district has not been a democratic district in the lifetime of the democratic candidate who is running here. it's been reliably republican all that time. it's your classic john mccain, mitt romney, john kasich kind of district. the fact that republican voters are peeling a little bit away from the president in places like this and that democratic voters who democrats didn't even realize existed, r

joining me now, msnbc's garrett haake in ohio and nbc national news correspondent steve kornacki, at the big board at 30 rock. garrett, you've been watching this, how is it shaping up, is it all about turnout as most election days are? >> reporter: i'll save you the turnout cliche, andrea, but it is a big part of it, trying to figure out not just how many but who actually comes out to vote in this district. you talk about how reliably republican it's been for the last 30 years. one of the things i'm tracking on the ground and i know steve will talk about more, is this shift in the district. you've got exurban voters who are leaning more towards donald trump. then you have the suburbs closer to columbus like where i'm standing now. i'm hearing from republicans and conservative democrats who may have voted for republicans like john kasich, for example, whose home political base is here in columbus, in the past, but they cannot get behind donald trump and they can't get behind his version of washington. you've got a democratic candidate who is not using any special sauce here, he's runni

garrett haake is there for us. >> reporter: good morning, d.c. police will be flooding this area later today tryingo keep separate groups of white nationalists and counterot ters, even as they converge on this small park later tonight. overnight, tense moments in the streets of charlottesville, virginia, far left protesters heckling the media and chanting anti-police slogans. as the city rolled out a heavy police presences n the eve of darkest day. last august, white nationalists and counter protesters clashed across the city. counter rprotes heather haier died after being struck by a car allegedly driven into a crowd intentionally and a helicopter crash took the lives of two virginia tate police officers monitoring the violence. jason kessler, the organizer of the unite the right rally is planning a seql in d.c. today, among the scheduled speakers former kkk leadur david . >> on sunday, we know that we have people coming to our city for the sole purpose of spewing hate. we, the people of washington, d.c., say unequivocally that we denounce hate.

. >> garrett haake thanks for covering a dwindling crowd at the democratic headquarters in ohio 12 tonight. with us tonight in studio, former republican florida congressman david jolly and kimberly atkins agreed to stick around, chief washington reporter for the "boston herald" as has peter baker, correspondent for the "new york times" thanks to all three of you for staying up late. congressman, again, just a civics and kind of a physical plant question. the winner gets to be an incumbent member of congress. the winner will go, will get really bad office space. they'll be on the bottom of the seniority list. >> he'll get his predecessor's office. >> you do inherit the office space? how does that work? >> i replaced the most senior member of congress. for eight months as a freshman, i had the best office on capital little. >> you had a beautiful view of the dome. >> then reality sets in. >> but they can't move in. they can't feel as much as anyone can move in with a two-year term. >> let's say it's 12 weeks before the next election. house is out till labor day. because it is an election day

let's bring in garrett haake. i want to bring historian michael beschloss and contributing editor at the weekly standard charlie sykes. thanks to you for being here. michael, this falls squarely into your department because john mccain was never a president. it was his greatest goal, his wish to be one. but in a lot of ways he will be treated by historians as someone whose impact was great enough to be talked about the way we talk about presidents. >> yeah, exactly right. couldn't have said it better. there are some senators in history they probably don't quite have the impact of even our less consequential presidents but they have so much impact on american history that we remember them well decades or even almost centuries later. it's not for nothing there have only been maybe 12b dozen senators or so who were asked -- whose families were asked to let them lie in state in the rotunda and here comes john mccain on lincoln's catafalque. one thing that went through my mind as i was watching all those senior republi

so my colleague, garrett haake, actually speaking of the president's legal team, ran into rudy giulianittal memo to whatever bob mueller may or may not produce as far as a report on the president. let's take a listen to what mr. giuliani had to say. >> talk to me a little bit about this idea of a counterreport. you guys mentioned you wanted to put out your own report. that done to undermine mueller's credibility? >> it's done to answer it. it's not going to come out until he puts out a report. of course i think even the president's enemies would imagine that his lawyers would put out a counter to an attack on him. if they don't attack him, no report. >> chuck rosenberg, what's your take on that? he is essentially saying well, if they don't attack the president in the report, we'll keep our mouths shut that seems like the political version of the report wouldn't that be nice? they haven't really shown a capacity for keeping their mouths shut. every time they octuplet, they tend to make matters worse. here is my sense of it there will be some counterreport there will be a rebuttal. it's n

garrett haake joins me from capitol hill.lk us through what we should expect today. >> over the next hour and 15 minutes, we'll see folks beginning to arrive from all different parts of john mccain's life. just walking out here a few minutes ago, i ran into joseph lieberman, the former senator, close mccain confidant. spottings of mitt romney here on the hill today. someone who john mccain first campaigned against for the nomination, and then for mitt romney in romney's run for the presidency in 2012. mccain's staff will take center stage. and then when the ceremony begins, we'll hear from the leaders in both houses of congress and from the one member of the administration who's taking a center stage here. the vice president will speak here today along with mitch mcconnell and paul ryan. together they will lay a wreath as part of the ceremony. that, sort of the one big bipartisan moment we'll see here today, leading up to the funeral tomorrow at the national cathedral. where we'll hear from a more bipartisan list of speakers.

garrett haake caught up with him and he brought up the 60-day window. take a listen. >> the justice department has a rule that you should stay out of politically charged investigations within 60 days of the election. i hope he respects that. >> reporter: or what? >> or nothing. it just affects how people look at the legitimacy of his investigation. is it political or is it a real law enforcement investigation. >> all right. howard fineman, let me go through a few things here. first, here's what the inspector general in june of 2018 said. the 60-day rule is not written or described in any department policy or regulation. nevertheless, high-raning department and fbi officials acknowledged the existence of a general practice that informs department decisions. here's what the doj guidelines say. this is a minneapolis/st. paemo wrote. how about that. law enforcement officers and prosecutors may never select the timing of investigative steps or criminal charges for the purpose of affecting any election or for the purpose of giving an advantage or disadvantage

garrett haake at democratic headquarters in the 12th congressional district. thanks for joining us.ican strategist mike murphy. mike, joining us by phone, really appreciate you getting in here. you have run presidential campaigns that needed to win ohio. you've campaigned hard in ohio. you know the 12th congressional district. what are you seeing in that district tonight? >> well, it's an interesting one because nothing beats winning. so congratulations to balderson, who i think is going to take it. but this is a very close race deep in the republican end zone. there are more than probably 45 republican incumbents who have worse districts than this generic generically. so it's a win for the republicans but it's a chilling one because we're not supposed to be having to spend millions of dollars to defend a district like this. i think both parties can find something to brag about. the republicans held this seat. that counts for a lot. but this thing shows there are bad headwinds for the gop, mostly driven by the president. you can see it, we need a little more time to look at the prec