. >>> director, thanks, i'm garrett mitchell, and i write "the mitchell report" and, slightly smaller circulation, and -- >>> it is interesting to hear you, the chief executive officers, and the companies that are clearly at issue here, as being well-intentioned, and patriotic. >>> i wonder, yet, they don't want to go where you want to go. >>> i wonder if you could characterize, for us, the nature of the argument that they use, the logic, of their perspective? and as you said, one of the wonderful things, is that people can do that, and not so wonderful and, we get nowhere. and i would be curious, if you could characterize, the point of view, logic, that those, the people that you're dealing with have. >>> i don't want to talk about particular conversations, because i want to make sure that they are robust. maybe in general, i would draw to some of my remarks. they're responding to a mcimperative. and so, their competitors are using it against them. and they're trying to respond, no, that's not true, our stuff is protected. i get that. that makes sense for them. they're not responsibl

i'm garrett mitchell, i write the major part of his did get the memo about socks but my argyle's were at the laundry so i couldn't -- >> we would have had you appear otherwise. >> there's one name that hasn't come up yet and i'm interested to know, where's george h. to be pushed in all of this? and what does that tell us about the pardons? >> well, actually question. george h. to the bush in my reading of it was -- george h. w. bush left no footprints in the sand. i can find the document you he as you are never came under a lot of scrutiny when he was running for president to succeed reagan in 1988, and his whole story was i didn't know anything. i was out of the loop. i wasn't in the cockpit. it was a difficult lion for him to tread because he's trying to show himself simultaneously as right there with the gipper, and yet coming, conveniently offstage when trouble hit. it turns out that bush left a diary of sorts that was not known about until way late in the investigation. this was a whole other aspect of the socket and that goes to question the kind answer what was the reaction of

i'm garrett mitchell, author of "the mitchell report." which is a publication with a circulation slightly smaller than mr. sanger's. it is interesting to hear you talk in the abstract about presumably the chief executive officers and members of the c-suite in the companies that are clearly at issue here as being well intentioned, atriotic, etc. i wonder --and yet they do not want to go where you want to go. i wonder if you could characterize for us the nature of the argumentation that they use, the logic, if you will, of their perspective, and, as you said, one of the wonderful things about a democracy is that people can do that. one of the not so wonderful things about a democracy is that people can do that. and so we get nowhere. so i would be curious if you could characterize for us the point of view, the sort of internal logic that those -- the people that you're dealing with have. and the sound necessary of that point of view even if you disagree with them. >> a good question. i do not want to talk about particular conversations beca