in the trade program is where i met fire chief garrett olson for the very first time as training officers, which builds a network across the nation about doing the right thing with our training. that, i'm worried that may be lost in it. the executive officer program. what an outstanding way to educate a continuum of leaders in the fire service so that we're thinking forward instead of staying the way we are because we're all going to have to change. those are issues that i would be concerned about with being cut. on the modernization of the infers. right now, we get r reports. lots of reports for how itnfpa way we can do real-time numbers and we can get to finish this so that we can have numbers, that we can compare our organization to. for example, we've got l.a. fire department and then fire department new york having questions about what their times mean. well, if we had a data spot that we could get real-time numbers from, i believe that's an incredible value. >> so what you're sharing with us is that a reduction in the budget has -- because it's a fairly lean agency. it has real impa