their dad is phillip garrido. that's dad. how do you explain to them that their dad is a rapist, a kidnapper. he's done it before. he should have been in prison for 50 years. think how gut wrenching that's going to have to be for those two young girls. >> and authorities will resume their digging tomorrow. >>> when we come back, new insights into why pet chimpanzees can turn deadly in an instant. you've wanted to quit smoking so many times, but those days came and went, and the cigarettes remained. but today's a new day. and a few simple steps can make a real difference in your next quit... things like starting with a plan to quit smoking... getting support... and talking to your doctor about how prescription treatments can help you. talk to your doctor about prescription treatment options. and make this time, your time. talk to your doctor about prescription treatment options. clean so deep... ...it's like your old mop's worst nightmare. ♪ [ thunder crashes ] [ man ] love stinks. ♪ love stinks! ♪ yeah! yeah! [ female announc

a bone fragment where garrido once lived.he is accused of kidnapping jaycee dugard when she was 11, holding her prisoner for 18 years. police say he fathered two of her children. authorities want to know if garrido is responsible for murders of prostitutes and whether he is linked to other missing children. joining me, welcome back detective lieutenant steve rogers, a former member of the fbi joint terrorism task force. prosecutor robin sacks, "predators and child molesttors" author. steve, let's open up with the bone fragment. we had facebook comments saying why would this information be let out if you don't know it is human or animal? >> if it is, in fact, a human bone fragment this takes a different turn. every cold case is going to be open over the past ten years. they are going to see if body part recovered anywhere else can be linked to this bone fragment. >> what is the likelihood that garrido that is responsible for the deaths of prostitutes and maybe responsible for other kidnapped kids. >> i think it is highly likel

when garrido violates parole. so you wonder what was going on at that point and she's just as culpable as he is in many ways, right? >> that's certainly a problem for her defense attorney because you could certainly argue that during those three or four months that garrido was back in custody, she did not let yeahsie go. so she became the captor and it would be very difficult for her to explain that she's still a victim. i don't know psychologically what was going on in her mean, but it's certainly -- you could argue that she's every bit as culpable as her husband. >> yeah. okay. >> but let's remember one thing. i was thinking about this today. let's remember the nussbaum case in new york city, didn't last as long as this one, but hannah nussbaum was a woman who knew that this child was being abused on a daly basis. she did nothing. she was horrendously abused herself. she's finally come out and she has been rehabilitated into some kind of life, but these women, you really can't say that they had the freedom or th

garrido here. i mean, she is equally culpable isn't she when we hear these type of details she's in as much trouble as phillip, isn't she. >> absolutely, 100%, she will be prosecuted under the same laws as her husband. whatever defense she might have wanted to pursue in this case will be negated by the fact, as we've already discussed, you've already discussed on your show, for a period of months, she was the only person there responsible for this po poor victim. she can't in any logical, reasonableable or believable way assert some defense she was under the control or dominion of her husband. >> i've got to go back to dr. brenda wade, as michael laid out the detail from his source that poor jaycee, again that innocent picture of an 11-year-old girl walking to the bus stop from her house, she's abducted, immediately threatened, pushed down to the floorboards of a vehicle and driven straight to antioch where again the 18-year hell began. what's going on in the mind of an 11-year-old at that point, b

phillip garrido's manifesto. >>> u.s.y leaders are considering sending more troops to afghanistan as part of a new strategy to deal with a sharp rise in violence there. the top commander in afghanistan calls the situation serious but says success is achievable. general stanley mcchrystal does not ask for additional american troops in that report but he does lay the groundwork for that type of request. the new plan focuses more on protecting afghan civilians and engaging taliban insurgents. at least 48 americans were killed in afghanistan during august. the deadliest month for u.s. forces since the start of the afghan war. we've been asking for your views on this. do you think the u.s. should stay in afghanistan or is it time for the troops to come home? call us right now 877-tell-hln. you can also post your views on my facebook page. get in on the discussion there. you can also text us. text the word views and your comments and name to hlntv. >>> some important news if you are bringing your kid back to college. many campu

say there's a striking resemblance between phillip garrido and the composite sketch. and there was a witness to what happened back when michaela garecht was abducted. she was abducted near a supermarket. she said, this car looks a lot like the car that i remember my friend being taken away in. so there's a lot to look at here, and of course, that's why cops are back out at the house. >> okay, dan, i want you to stay with us if you can. when we come back, we're going to talk to the mother of one of the still-missing girls and to the woman who witnessed the actual abduction when she was a child two decades ago. we'll talk to them when we come back. >>> you're watching "larry king live." i'm dr. phil mcgraw sitting in for larry tonight. sharon murch is joining us. her daughter, michaela was kidnapped in 1988. sharon, as you've watched this unfold, is it eerily similar to what happened to your daughter? >> well, yes, there are a lot of similarities between jaycee's kidnapping and michaela's kidnapping. the cases have intersected in the investigations over the years becaus

garrido allegedly. we have our experts standing by. 1-877-tell-hln. henry lee is with us from the "san francisco chronicle." what is the latest on the search of garrido's property, the adjacent property? any more bones found, anything of interest found? >> there are a number of cadaver dogs expert in finding human remains and historic dogs that detektd bones up to 450 a.d. that search continues. >> let's bring in mike brooks. henry mentioned an anomaly. what is going on with this search? what is an anomaly and what devices do you use? >> mike, using the ka nene dog. two separate dogs in this particular area. the fbi is assisting and use ground-penetrating radar. they will put out -- section it out into squares, grid sections. then go over it carefully and see -- it can go deep into the soil. if that happens they will see anomalies which is something buried under the ground other than dirt. it could be bones or anything ellsburied in the back yard. >> let's get a call. your comment or question? >> hi, ho

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nancy garrido, wife of phillip garrido, now appears to be saying that she is one of the victims. that, even though she had sole control over jaycee back in 1993 when her husband was jailed for parole violations. here again with the latest, dan simon at the gra reedo house. >> reporter: nancy garrido's attorneys made the rounds today and said she miss the two children fathered by phillip garrido with the victim and that she considered all of them as family. he also seems to be providing the frame work for a defense. he used the word "victim" when describing her and also said she seemed or at least suggested she was powerless to do anything about it, do anything about what was happening in this house behind me. this is how he characterized her state of mind. take a listen. >> when i talked to her, i would say that he was distraught, frightened, appeared to be a little lost. i would describe her like a ship without a rutter. she's concerned. >> reporter: well, the district attorney distached a former federal prosecutor to provide some background on case law. greg scott serving sort

when you look at garrido's picture, do you think you recognize that guy?ance to the man i remember. >> do you think he is the man ha snatched michaela? >> i think he looks remarkably like michaela's kidnapper, more so than any one else i have seen. >> that must creep you out. >> absolutely. i never had this feeling before. there were all these feelings. >> katrina, rodriguez, thank you. sharp ron, thansharon, i want s well. now, to the yale killing of annie le. did clark kill her out of concern for the way she was treating the lab rats at yale? the real motive, next.

now, garrido's ex-wife in her tv interview said when another man flirted with her, garrido took out a safety pin, gouged her in her face and threatened to put out her eyes. >>> we'll take a closer look at the relationship between phillip garrido and his wife nancy, including why and if she was a willing participant in the disturbing crimes they are accused of committing. >>> right now let's get a check of the morning's top stories. ann off today so natalie morales is on duty at the news desk. good morning. >> good morning, everyone. extremely dangerous hurricane jimena is moving closer to baja, california, peninsula. with winds 150 miles an hour it is expected to start pounding the southern part of the peninsula late tonight. it's started kicking up high waves in the area. many tourists are rushing to get out. >>> today president obama gets briefed on swine flu preparedness and government response plans. since may swine flu has killed 500 americans. >>> the federal government has reached a deal to pay $9.5 million to acquire land in shanksville, pennsylvania for a flight 93 national m

mike rogers lives behind garrido.ed in the backyard prison where jaycee dugard and her two daughters live in tents. knowing what he knows now, it's troubling to think what was happening. what exactly did you see these guys doing? >> they were, like, drinking and cheering their beers and high-fiving and getting crazy, you know? screaming and hollering. it was, you know -- i thought maybe they were partying back there, who knows? you know? i mean, you just -- you know, i -- i hollered at them. they didn't look at me. >> reporter: antioch investigators tell cnn they've heard those stories but still don't have any evidence that other men might have abused jaycee dugard and her two daughters in the backyard. despite being a registered sex offender and receiving regular visits from parole officers, phillip garrido managed to avoid authorities. ed lavandera, cnn, antioch, california. >>> parents with kids in tow, flooding hospital emergency rooms. their fears? swine flu, but hospital e.r.s are no longer testing for the h1n1

when you look at garrido's picture, do you think you recognize that guy? >> he had an uncanncanny resem resemblance to the man i remember. >> do you think he is the man ha snatched michaela? >> i think he looks remarkably like michaela's kidnapper, more so than any one else i have seen. >> that must creep you out. >> absolutely. i never had this feeling before. there were all these feelings. >> katrina, rodriguez, thank you. sharp ron, thansharon, i want s well. now, to the yale killing of annie le. did clark kill her out of concern for the way she was treating the lab rats at yale?b >> geraldo: 24-year-old annie le was supposed to be in greece on her honeymoon today and instead her body was sent to california to be buried out there. prime time in crime time goes back into the murder of the yale student allegedly by the lab student raymond clark iii. tom, thank you. what is this about a third person's dna being found at the murder site? >> we know that his sister, his brother in law and his fiancee all work in the same lab. any word that any of them are be

katie, you were raped, kidnapped by phillip garrido.ll these developments? >> yes, i have, larry. with every piece of new evidence they find it sends me reeling with the thought of the atrocities this man may have committed. i just want to scream, i told you, i told you he was dangerous to the authorities, to the parole board. you know? it's terrifying. >> larry: do you believe in your heart he may have commit these other crimes? >> i believe he's capable of it, yes, absolutely. the man who had me that night, i absolutely believe he's capable of it. >> larry: have you tried to talk to jaycee or her family? >> no. i haven't. i'll let them come out in their own time, if they would like to talk to me, of course, i'm sure they can reach me through you. i'm absolutely open to talking to them. but i want to give them time to just have their time together, reconnect. >> larry: you survived this horrible incident. what do you say to sharon murch? >> don't give up hope. never give up hope, sharon. i'm hoping and praying that you find your daught

degree d garrido allegedly fathered her two daughters.there's any connection between garrido and two other missing girl cases. joining us now live is dan simon with the latest. he's in our san francisco bureau and this story just gets more compelling by the day. >> reporter: it's really been unbelievable since this all started in late august. and we can tell you today authorities were back out at the house. they've been there pretty much since this case began. and what they're looking for, as you mentioned, dr. phil, they're looking to see if philip and nancy garrido might be somehow linked to a pair of kidnappings that happened roughly 20 years ago. and what they've been doing is they've been looking, basically, in the backyard of the house. they've had cadaver dogs there. they've come across, actually, several bones. at this point, they don't know if those bones are animal or human, but they've been sifting through the backyard. there's been so much debris back there, it's really been taking all this time just to get the whole place cle

their dad is phillip garrido. that's dad. do you explain to them that their dad is a rapist, a kidnapper, he's done it before, he should have been in prison for 50 years? think of how gut wrenching that's going to have to be for those two young girls. >> i can't imagine that. martin talked about the deplorable conditions. they've already hauled away 19 truckloads worth of debris, a lot of it papers, handwritten materials from garrido himself. police have to go through that and see what they can glean of importance. >> hoping they don't find remains of the 9 and 13-year-old who disappeared under similar circumstances. we have much more news coming >> safe to say that is not where that bus was meant to end up. slid off the roast east of dallas yesterday morning with 20 people on board. no one seriously hurt but six people were checked out at a hospital. the students on board, they were members of a swim team. >> probably why no one was injured. >> improving safety on the road is the idea behind a program for elderly drivers. ma

at this point we can't say that the garridos are with certainty suspects in the case.ertainly we have been unable to eliminate them as suspects in the case. phillip garrido was not in custody at the time of eileen's disappearance and in fact had been released only a few months prior to eileen's disappearance. also the proximity to his residence in antioch could give him the opportunity to come into -- we anticipate being here for at least a few days as lieutenant orry explained, it's going to be a very thorough, methodical search of the property, which is a large piece of property and it required numerous personnel from the dublin police services, hayward police department as well as support from alameda county sheriff's office, the federal bureau of investigation, the alameda county sheriff's crime lab and the contra costa sheriff's office. so i would like to thank all of those allied departments for their assistance in the investigation. we will have another press briefing at 4:30 this afternoon and i think we can follow up with any questions that you may have at thi

garrido and his wife have pled not guilty to kidnapping charges. >>> we're hearing from one of garrido's past victims for the first time. katie hall was kidnapped and raped by garrido in 1976. and she testified against him before he was sentenced to 50 years. but garrido was paroled just over a decade later. last night, hall described the storage unit where garrido assaulted her. >> it was like a maze. and in the warehouse where he had me, he had it set up to keep someone for a while. >> reporter: hall said she has a threatening run-in with a man resembling garrido. she left her lake tau hoe home because she knew garrido was hunting her. >>> turning to afghanistan and whether the u.s. is winning. an assessment from the top general there says no. stanley mcchrystal says success is achievable. it will take on a new strategy, one where u.s. troops will be concentrated in cities and wnwn thatat meansns l less f fightin mcchryrystal hast ruested me troops.. buththat's expxpected . killn afanistan n la month,he higstototalhe nearly 8-yeaear war. >>> th obamama admdmistrion is reportededly c co

garrido was? there were two mrs. garridos in the house. >> they'll never be able to figure out their lives. you know. they'll try, they'll go to therapy and they'll have bonding sessions and they'll have time together, but their lives will always be screwed up. you know, little things happen to us during the course of our lives when we were children that stay with us. i read your book. little things. i know in my own childhood, little things stayed with me. but we're able to overcome, you know, they weren't so tragic we weren't able to overcome. these children can't overcome. >> larry: what do you think it's like for children who were molested by priests? do you think that's different? or is molesting molesting? >> molesting is molesting. will they ever recover? will they ever recover? these people are wired wrong. not only are they wired wrong but they were placed in a position where they knew they were going to be dealing with vulnerable children, and they knew what their plan was. >> larry: yeah. by the way, inves

obvious, scott, why was phillip garrido paroled?e completed his sentence both with the feds for the kidnapping charge, he was transferred to the nevada department of corrections for the rape charge. he was released from that sentence in on our interstate compact agreement, which is typical, he was transferred to california for his parole supervision. >> larry: was he, therefore, a good prisoner? >> i don't know about his history with the feds in nevada, but i know while he was on parole, he was compliant with his terms of parole. >> larry: in retrospect, obviously, he shouldn't have been paroled. but are you saying there is no way -- he had to be paroled? >> i believe it was consistent with the law in nevada. and certainly our parole supervision, nevada has lifetime parole for sex offenders. we do not. so he would be on lifetime parole with the department of corrections and rehabilitation. >> larry: would you change the law in any way based on this? >> you know, this is obviously a very serious crime that was committed. i leave that

they are combing phillip and nancy garrido's property.s trained to find hume's remains and ground penetrating radar equipment indicated bones may be buried underground. in a news conference just moments ago, police said they intend to focus on that spot again today. >> as far as the search this morning by the dogs, one of the dogs did alert in the same general area as last week's alert which is also the same general area of the anomaly from the gpr scanning. that's going to be the area that we focus on this afternoon when we begin digging. >> in another development, a law enforcement source says dugard told him phillip garrido did not molest the daughters she had with him. the 29-year-old gave birth to both girls no in their teens. she was in her teens at the tile. the girls, 15 and 11 never went to school or saw a doctor and were raised in sheds and tents in garrido's backyard. >>> meanwhile, people from the town where jaycee dugard was kidnapped from nearly two decades ago held a benefit. it was held in a casino in south lake tahoe, cal

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garrido was investigated for drugging and raping a 14-year-old girl. police say these two met near a library in antioch. he gave her drugs and things escalated from there. >> she ended up at a motel with garrido. after being giving more barbiturates and basically awoke, found herself there, and was repeatedly raped and sexually assaulted. >> the case was all set to go to trial, jon, when, for reasons that are still unclear, the young victim in this case refused to testify. jon: and, as i mentioned, we are getting a look at that 1976 rape case that sent phillip garrido to prison for 11 years. what have we learned? >> yeah. 11 out of 50, jon. in fact, reno police have released this photograph of phil garrido that was taken before his arrest. compare it to how he looked last week after his arrest in northern california. a striking difference. and we're also getting a look at the arrest report. detailing how garrido hitched a ride with a stranger, claiming his car broke down. then when he was alone in a car with this woman how he handcuffed her, taped her

how well does she know garrido, or her and her husband know garrido?ce are not saying why they looked into his house, except that her husband was wanted on an unrelated offense. mr. garrido would print things for them. and they allowed mr. garrido to pass out religious leaflets in front of their business. so it's very strange. and also keep in mind, miss molino has pictures of jaycee's two pictures. their faces have been blurred out. but right now, whereas in the past week, we did see a lot of her on tv. now she said she's received death threats. >> let's go to steve kardian, former criminal investigator. why do you think the authorities would zone in on the mo lynn ohs? from what we're hearing from reports, looking for child porn here. >> there's going to be a lot of looking into the background every step that this child took, every contact that she had with anybody, any contact that the garridos had with anybody out in the system. and her actions are extremely -- from a criminal investigator point of view -- insensitive, self-serving and displacement

there are new details on phillip garrido's history. he stood trial for another kidnapping and rape case in 2007. he admitted to acting as a peeping tom and exposing himself to young girls. he testified he used lcd and cocaine as sexual stimulants. friends of garrido paint a different picture. >> i feel that she's probably even more responsible than she is. we know he had serious problems. everyone has thought something was wrong with it. for her to go along this -- >> garrido and his wife have pleaded not guilty to kidnapping and abuse of dugard. she was kept hidden inside the backyard behind a complex of sheds and tents. >>> we're getting a peek at the way the madoffs lived. property has been seized. this property has four bedrooms, three baths, and panoramic views. if you've ever wanted to live like a billionaire, the get away has an asking price of $7 million at this point. there are the views. >>> apple has a new music product on the horizon. a special event is scheduled for next week. analysts speculate a new ipod will be launched

that is where they say that dugard gave birth to garrido's two children. authorities say that this is about garrido. >> people committing these offenses tend to be predatory and have multiple victims. shepard: he did have at least one previous a victim, including -- according to authorities. he spent 11 years in prison for a kidnapping and rape. two young girls involved have never been found. claudia, there are some definite similarities between the dugard case and these other kidnappings. give us the details. >> yes, some startling similarities, starting with age, appearance, and manner of objection. jaycee dugard, -- like jaycee dugard, one of the girls was just nine years old when she was wiped out of the supermarket in the bay area city of hayworth in 1988. the other was kidnapped when she was walking out of school in a bay area town not far from antioch. in all three cases, the girls were snatched off -- snatched from a public place and placed in a vehicle matching the description of the vehicle recently towed from garrido's house. garrido had recentl

police have found another bone on phillip garrido's property.and cadaver dogs hit on a human scent. are human remains buried there? >> after the dog gave what is determined to be somewhat of a tentative look at the -- or tentative feel for the cadaver, we brought in the second dog, and he also indicated on that particular part of the property. >> just now, cops announce ground penetrating radar confirms there is something under that spot. is it a dead body? does this terrifying den hold clues into the abduction of two little girls? plus, gruesome new photos of phillip garrido's house of horrors. we're taking you deep inside the rapist and accused kidnapper's filthy, and i mean filthy, beyond comprehension filthy layer. did jaycee dugard's alleged captor hold other children hostage in this terrifying madhouse? check out what we spotted in garrido's dining room. how crazy is this? it looks like a portrait of garrido with a little girl. who is that little girl? police continue to dig through truckloads of trash searching for bones, teeth, in this c

jaycee's stepdad carl probyn says he can't wait to write garrido taunting letters while garrido is lockedup. he says, "i will be telling him how our family is doing, that we are at disney world or that we are out having dinner laughing and having a wonderful time." probyn's life has been destroyed, too. he witnessed the garridos snatching jaycee off the street in 1991. here he is just days later. >> watched the car go up the hill, and i saw my daughter making the curve up there. all of a sudden the car darted across the road, cut her off. i saw a door open. i jumped on my bike. i heard a scream, and i pedaled, and i realized i couldn't catch him in time. so i came back down, called 911. >> everybody wondered was he telling the truth at the time? this ruined that man's life. that's the alleged monster, right there, convicting this guy could mean more pain and trauma for jaycee. can she handle being face to face with garrido in court? her attorney says absolutely. here he is on the cbs "early show." >> she very clearly understands that some very bad and terrible things were done to her and

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garrido, she too is actually being held and charged. her attorney now has been talking, he's been all over the media. what do we know? >> reporter: making the rounds this morning.

they had no evidence tieing the garridos to the other disappearances but they say the garridos can't be eliminated as suspects. the couple is charged with kidnapping jacee dugard 18 years ago. >>> some people have been very vocal in their criticism of president obama's plan to reform the health care system. jimmy carter thinks some of the criticism is based on racism -- or is it a matter of free speech. mr. obama himself is trying to answer that very question. >> the president could no longer avoid talking about it -- race, it came up in interview after interview, this one with cnn's john king. >> are there people out there who don't like me because of race? i'm sure there are. that's not the overriding issue here. i think there are people who are anti-government. i think there are -- there's been a long-standing debate in this country that is usually that much more fierce during times of transition. or when presidents are trying to bring about big changes. the things said about fdr similar to the things they said about me. he was a communist, a socialist. things that were said about

dan simon, our cnn krpt at the garrido house.h, she's the mother of a missing 9-year-old. she disappeared in 1988 from hayward, california. also there is lieutenant chris olray of the hayward police department, and lieutenant curt vaughn sav "of the dublin police department. he has been charting the 13-year-old missing girl who was abducted in 1989. sharon, what were the circumstances of your daughter's going missing? >> my daughter went to the local market on a saturday morning with her best friend. they road scooters up there and left them by the side of the door when they went into the store. when they came out, one of the sdooters was messing. mick aila spotted it in the parking lot. she went to get it, and when she did, a man jumped out of the car and grabbed her from behind, threw her in his car, and took off with her. >> larry: she would be 31 years old now, right? >> she would be 30 years old. >> larry: 30 years old. now, lieutenant olray, you have worked on this case, is that correct? >> yes, larry. i have. >> larry: wer

garrido and his wife are in custody. they have pleaded not guilty.the suspect in garecht's abduction looks like garrido at the time. a car found on ga credo's property is similar to those witnesses say occurred. >>> students are charged with gang raping a student. the man snatched the 18-year-old's cell phone dancing at a party. he used the phone to lure her to a dorm bathroom where she was tied up and gang raped. some students are upset with university officials because they first learned about the attack on facebook. police are searching for a fifth suspect. a horrible case. >>> the fallout is growing over the congressman who shouted "you lie" during the president's speech to congress last week on health care. we all saw that. yesterday the house passed a resolution mostly along party lines. this resolution formally admonishes representative joe wilson. it came to this because house democrats wanted him to apologize to congress on the floor for his behavior. the south carolina republican said his personal apology to president obama applied to every

>> gilbert mains is nancy garrido's defense attorney. good morning to you. >> good morning to you, ma'am. >> i understand the last time you spoke with nancy garrido, she's in jail right now, that was on saturday. can you describe her mental state at this point? >> she's distraught. she's scared. she seems to be a little lost at the moment. >> when you say "lost," what do you mean? >> she doesn't seem to be able to really focus well at the moment. >> does she understand why she is in jail? >> oh, yeah. no, we've had a conversation about that. yes, she understands. >> what has she said to you, mr. mains, about her relationship with jaycee and jaycee's daughters over these past 18 years? what light has she shed on that matter? >> well, what she has said -- what she said that i can tell you about is that there came a time when she felt like they were a family and that she loves the girls very much, and she loves jaycee very much. and that seems a little strange given the circumstance. but that's what she has said to me. >> did she explain to

and in box number three, the investigation deepens at the home of phillip garrido. california police are looking for evidence of more sickening crimes against the man already accused of kidnapping and raping a girl he held captive for 18 years. first, the explosive development in the obama administration's criminal investigation into the cia. seven former directors of the spy agency are asking the president to stop the investigation into the techniques used on terror suspects after 9/11. at the techniques -- the interrogations took place under the bush administration. eric holder announced last month that an independent panel will investigate the allegations of abuse against the cia. catherine herridge has the details. investigators have considered this for some time, right? >> i talked to a senior intelligence a -- official who told me that the real trick was finding a language that would be firm and clear, yet respectful and professional, because it would be directed at the president himself. rick: what does his letter say? >> there are two parts that sum up its e

that was the property where the garridos kept jaycee dugard. the garridos are in jail.to make an arrest today in the killing of the yale graduate student 2sh graduate student. in about an hour, the medical examiner could release how annie le died. they say her killing was not a random act and no students are believed to be involved. last night on campus, there was a candlelight vigil in her honor. and le's roommate talked about what it was like to lose her friend. >> she was as good a human being as you'd ever hope to meet. this horrible tragedy happened at all is incomprehensible. but that it happened to her, i think, is infinitely more so. it seems completely senseless. >> the building where le was killed is only accessible to yale students and yale employees. the school's president says the police have narrowed the number of suspects because this building security system that records everyone that goes in and out and what time, they do that. >>> officials at a south florida high school say a suspect is in custody for stabbing a student to death. this happened this mo

kidnapping the garridos were involved in. good afternoon, welcome to news4 at 4:00, i'm pat lawson muse. >> i'm jim handly. we'll have more on those late developments in a bit. first, we begin with breaking news. a professional basketball player and native washingtonian has been arrested and is facing serious charges. >> prince george's county police arrested delonte west last night on 95. he pulled west over for speeding and making an unsafe lane change. he said he had a gun in his waist band. >> it was one of three guns he had. he currently plays for the cleveland cavs. much more coming up later on news4. >> now to a developing story in silver spring. we learned a woman missing more than two weeks has been found murdered in her own backyard. montgomery county police tell us the body of 35-year-old rosa lydia vasquez was found in a shed in the back of her house last night. >> thismorning, officers arrested a 17-year-old and charged him as an adult with vasquez's murder. police are speaking with the media right now at the hea

major development in the case of phillip garrido.man accused of kidnapping jaycee dugard when she was just 11 and holding her prisoner in a backyard compound for almost two decades. detectives said a bone fragment found near his home last week is most likely human. dna tests will determine the bone's age. we're hoping advanced tests can tell us that. who it might have belonged to. that poses the question, are there potentially other victims here? as always, we take your calls, 1-877-tell-hln. joining us, dr. clarence watson, a forensic psychiatrist. and also with us, reporter sam stanton, sacramento bee who's been covering this, doing a great job as well. sam, let's start with the news of the day. the bone fragment found. tell us what we know about it, and where it was found in relation to phillip garrido. >> our impression is it's not a large piece, but they determined yesterday apparently that it likely is human. it was found in the backyard of the home next to the garrido home in antioch. some cadaver dogs that were searching ther

, sharon murch said she would like to speak to nancy garrido, that nancy garrido might be a victim. you really think she might be able to handle that? >> i obviously don't know the woman, so i'm not sure she could handle it. but it's interesting she wants to appeal to another woman on the scene who has been there a lot longer than jaycee dugard. so she's able to maybe get some information and some facts. you know, this is a mom continuing her vigilance to be a detective, to try to find out what happened to her missing daughter. >> let's bring in henry lee on this. henry, let's back up to the search. they searched, what, about a week, henry? and as you and i talked, very extensive. we're talking ground penetrating radar. they've tested some of these bone frag also. what are they finding out? the bones are too old, right, to have been at least these two cases we've talked about? >> that's right, mike. they brought out a legion of anthropologists, ground penetrating radar, operators, dogs of all types. and what they have come to conclude is that those bones are many, many years older t

may the other two victims, if in fact they were victims of garrido, they did not exact, there are all sort of things that could have happened that would have let to a homicide. the woman was jove heard telling police she had one buried a dog in the garage. netors say she can't tell wh what -- >> a large scale effort to discover what, if anything, is buried here. >> very likely investigator will continue digging on the property. >> the house has joined the senate in voti to cut off future funding for the community organizing group acorn. republican lawmakers have intensified their attacks on the group after this videotape surfaced earlier this week. acorn employees are seening minute the make it look more objectionable. >> here's your friday okay? >>. the six stray day of strormy weather. sunny out west except for thunderstorms in part of new mexico and colorado. >> a hot 1 hup in phoenix, 7 in salt lake city. indianapolis up to 80, st. louis 81 and detroit 70 along along. >> 84 know? >> it was certainly an undignified event for some elegant ladies at the can as state fair. >> the wome

. >>> photos now of the inside of the home of nancy and phillip garrido.ed of kidnapping 11-year-old jaycee dugard in 1991. investigators are using ground penetrating radar today to search the property after two dogs show interest in part of the property. police say they could indicate possible human remains. >>> not guilty is the verdict for a former high school coach accused of reckless homicide in the death of one of his football players. the 15-year-old player died of heat related illness after collapsing during a hot practice last year. we will have more on this story coming up in just a couple minutes for you here in the "cnn newsroom." >>> can debt settlement companies help you gain control of your finances and will unemployment benefits be extend and how do you qualify for the education tax credit? you e-mail us the questions and gerri willis has answers from new york. good to see you. good friday. >> good to see you, sir. >> do you want to dive in here. >> let's go. >> our first question -- help, gerry. >> you know, i got to tell our viewer here,

and we're learning more about garrido's garrido's past. he once wore long hair and sang in a band.ast forward 24 years to the kidnapping of jaycee dugard. police sources said that garrido and his wife nancy had specifically targeted jaycee. >> the day before jaycee was actually kidnapped, the garridos were out looking, i call it child shopping. they were out actually looking for someone to kidnap. and they went by a group of little girls. one of which was jaycee dugard. ask as they went by, phillip said to nancy, ooh, ooh, i want that one. she's cute. her, her. >> reporter: the next day, the garridos went back and grabbed jaycee as she stood alone at the bus stop. patty kaufman, cbs news, los angeles. >> no word on how long the additional testing on the recently discovered bones may take. >>> and new details in the alleged serial killer in wisconsin. >> reporter: the wisconsin justice says they could have prevented at least one of the nine deaths. walter ellis was arrested this weekend after dna evidence gathered at his home linked him to a string of cold case homicides. the depart

greta: a bone fragment has been found on phillip garrido's neighbor's lawn. raped his victim and fathered two daughters with her. could this convicted sex offender, who is now a combat -- who is now a kidnapper and rapist -- we are now joined by claudia from california. >> well, good evening, greta. that is right. after four years of investigation, the yellow crime tape is gone, and the investigation is over but not before cadaver dogs alerted on a bone fragment right here in Élan where phillip -- right here in the Élan whereas ... -- in the lawn where phillip garrido had access. that bone fragment is being tested to determine if it is human. if it is, having several opportunities to rescue dugard, police are now looking to see whether or not garrido could be related to some murders, including in an area where he worked in the 1990's. greta: for some reason, his wife -- i have seen so many criminals and my light and so many murderers, but you do not often seen these sidekick. if he is guilty, and it does not a good for him, what is with his wife? -- but you d

and nancy garrido.earances. both girls were last seen near their california homes in the 1980s. authorities that they would not bring cadaver dogs back to the garrido home today until more did he sbree removed from the backyard. yesterday dogs picked up a scent that may show where human remains are buried on the couple's property. >> the operation continuing today will focus upon the continual removal of debris on the properties. we're going to be removing some concrete slabs from both properties as well as a shed on the adjacent property. we're going to be continuing the search of the garrido house on the interior. and we're going to begin the scan of the properties underground with the ground penetrating radar and the magnetometer. >> as you know, they are behind bars charmed with kidnapping jaycee dugard and holding her captive for 18 years. meanwhile, look at these. officials have released more than one 00 photos from inside the home. building inspector have condemned it saying it is unsafe to live

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