so let's have garry kasparov up first. garry, you've got three minutes. >> i have to ask you for forgiveness because i want to talk about vladimir putin again. yes, there was a difference in all the bad old days, as he said. there was a polling bureau. even if you have ten of the worst people in the world they can make more balanced decision than one man. and now again for vladimir putin, there's no way out. i mean he should present himself as a strong man who can protect russia against endless enemies that besieged my country. and i said from the very beginning, so i'm a russian patriot. i want to see my country free and strong. and to play a role, a positive role. i don't want to hear the same jokes as recently have been revived in eastern europe when say, putin entering the country, being asked by customs officer, occupation, says yes, of course. this is not the image of russia i want to project. and it's hard for me to argue for isolation. but this is not isolation of russia. this is isolation of a dictator. the streng

ladies and gentlemen, garry kasparov. [applause] thank you.ell a little predebate business to take care of. four quick items. number one, power up your smart phones. we have a hashtag going tonight. #munkdebates. we have an online poll going. those of you watching online, it is www.munkdebates.com/vote. plus, the clock. this will keep debate on time and debaters on their toes when you see this clock reached zero or approaching zero, join me in a round of applause. that will move us through the evening quickly. and keep us on time. let's now review how this audience here in the room voted on tonight's resolution. coming into this debate. you were asked, agree or disagree. should the west engage or isolate russia? if we can have those results right now, up on the screen? there we go. 57% agree. 43% disagree. quite close. this debate could go either way. and to get a sense of how much of this room and how much public opinion is in play right now. we asked you second question. depending on what you hear tonight. you are opened to changing your vot

[applause] >> garry kasparov your six minutes please. >> thank you very much.m here in this audience not as just a neighbor of mr. cohen because we both live on the west side of new york which was not my first choice but a patriot of my country russia. i don't feel very comfortable arguing against the resolution because my dream from the early days when i was a kid traveling the road playing under the russian flag was to engage my country to make it a real factor in the promise of humanity. i knew that despite the regime that i hated russia the soviet union at that time had a huge potential. it's intellectual cultural and national resources. and it seemed for many others for millions of my country elsewhere in the world that in 1991 our dream came true so the regime collapsed and we all remember celebrating crowds pulled down the statue and talk about purification. it was not an easy time because as you remember in yugoslavia is also collapsed and ended in a terrible civil war. russia escaped that and boris yeltsin to his wisdom and his ability to understand we

we are talking foreign policy and deployable security with our panel, judy miller, garry kasparov andade an important point of the next 20 months and what impact the president can have before he steps down. >> negative impact. i think we are now potentially facing disaster beyond belief. obama should understand normalization of relations with any country needs a two-way street and now we can see only one way. the deal with iran, we hear two opposite stories and not just about little things here or there. the fundamental differences in most substantial points of the deal, and then shook hands with raul castro. it should be a trade. shaking hands with a dictator, the hand covered with blood, there's still hundreds and hundreds of political prisoners in cuba. it seems obama wants his pr opportunities and he's defending his rotten policy attacking the gop and offering an olive branch to all american enemies and those who were attacking the values of the free world around the globe. >> you think the president can be more dangerous in the next 20 months than he has been -- >> i'm afraid the