we are talking about the cartoonist garry trudeau, creator of the popular comic strip doonesbury. he is the first cartoonist to win the pulitzer prize. in september trudeau published a 1987, series of comic strips that now seem prophetic. in one strip, reporters are asking trump a series of questions. "mr. trump, your denials notwithstanding, don't the ads you took out suggest a testing of the political waters." trump responds, "as i have said before, i was simply acting as a concerned citizen. at this time, i have no, repeat no, political ambitions whatsoever." a reporter then asks, "ok, but if you did run for congress -- trump then responds, "president, think president." another strip from 1987 features trump being asked, "mr. trump, as a developer of luxury condos and casinos, do you think you'd have any rapport at all with voters of modest means?" trump responds, "are you kidding? i've spent my whole life working with people of modest means." "in what capacity?" he is asked. trump says, "evicting them! i've seen how these people live!" trump has remained a frequent character in

joining us now for the enter view is garry trudeau, author of the new book "yuge!" of doonesbury on trump. great to see you. >> it's great to see you. >> you know that i am a huge "doonesbury" fan any way but i did not realize how much you saw this coming. >> you're giving me far more credit -- >> it's creepy, though, the stuff from '97 and '99. >> well, '87 -- >> '87. >> '87 we in new york had been entertained by this man for years, starting when he ran and invaded a hotel called the hyatt. >> the commodore. >> the commodore turned into the hyatt. we didn't know what we deserved -- how we came to deserve such an in-your-face guy, this minor league real estate developer who was just out there day after day after day. now, he did hire a couple of imaginary press agents to help him do that, so he didn't do it all by himself. but he was on the covers of magazines. the big problem with taking a local figure and putting him in a comic strip is that you can really lard up the script with way too much exposition and trying to position him and make him seem real to people,