he just garsten. he and gorbachev retired to the walnut room which was a very important room in the kremlin where big decisions were made. there were joined by alexander jack flood, one of the followers of for the striker, who was a witness to what went on. and they started drinking. >> just a witness, was see also sort of the umpire? >> a bit of an empire as well because both respected him. >> why? >> because he spoke out on issues that yeltsin was passionate about, opening up the history and exposing the crimes and that sort of thing. >> obviously there account they get a member of the ideas. >> so, this is a contentious issue. feels a little too much for introducing. know that he was a very powerful figure. who bring in trace. connect and vodka. at one. the meeting one on from midday to 9:00 tonight, and at 6:00 or which of left the meeting to take a call from john major who is prime minister of the united kingdom at the time and had arranged a call for what was happening. under noted that he was -