one less thing as i mentioned garvey. it's also garvey's idea this is a fools errand. something black people should stay away from. one question i have is how thomas is black nationalism is heavily patriarchal. what is the relationship to black women, he's not married to a black woman, he was. someone like garvey but say there are no alliances with rights is completear separatism. clarence thomass is willing to make the strategic alliances with white conservativism and also as a white woman. so the first thing i should say is the argument in the book is not that b thomas is just a black nationalist and black nationalism explains everything. thomas is a conservative is also a publican. you cannot understand him without the other facets. i don't think the black nationalism explains the whole of it. interestingly, thomas was against interracial relationships and marriage pretty much a mental the moment he met virgin atlantic. and then changed his mind on the topic. in this alliance the number of black conservatives who haveo been interviewed in moments of candor will say

one last thing i mentioned garvey. on the vote, you know, that was garvey's idea of the vote, this is also a fool's errand and something that black people should stay away from. >> one question i have is, how-- thomas' black nationalism is heavily patriarchal. what is his relationship to black women? because he's not married to a black woman. he was. and in-- someone like garvey would say, there are no alliances with whites, right? it's complete separatism and that-- in that sense, clarence thomas isn't quite a garveyite, he's willing to make strategic alliances with white conservatives and his wife is a white woman and that would seem to be a bit of an incongruity there. >> the first thing i should say the argument of the book is not that thomas is just black nationalism, that black nationalism explains everything. thomas is a conservative and also a republican and you can't understand him without those other facets. so it's, you know, i don't think the black nationalism explains the whole of it. interestingly, thomas

on the vote, you know, that was also garvey's idea of the boat. you know that this was a fool's ireland and you know, something that black people should stay away from so one question i have is how thomas's black nationalism is heavily patriarchal and so how is i mean, what is his relationship to black women? right because he he's not married to a black woman he was and in someone like garvey right would say there are no alliances with whites. right? it's complete separatism. and in that in that sense clearance thomas isn't quite a garvia because he's willing to make these. strategic alliances with white conservatives and also to you know, his wife is a white woman and that seemed that would seem to be a bit of an incongruity there. so the first thing i should say is the argument in the book is not that thomas is just a black nationalism that black nationalism explains everything thomas is a conservative. he's also a republican and you can't understand him without those other facets. and so it's it's it, you know, i i don't think the black nationa

this is one part where i mentioned garvey. this was garvey's idea of the vote . it's something that black people should stay away from. d .. his wife was white woman. the first thing i should say, the argument in the book is not that thomas is just black nationalism, it explains everything. thomas is a conservative, also republican. you can't understand him without those other facets. i don't think black nationalism explains the whole thing. interestingly, thomas was against future racial relationships and marriage much up until theen moment that virginia lamb. [laughter] then changed his mind on the topic. this alliance, there's a number of black conservatives interviewed in moments of candor, they understand exactly what they are doing. i think thomas is in that regard : you have to understand that goal but he thinks, for himo conservatism, if you go back to the foundational politics, political pessimism and economic, the notion of the economy, it would seemed like that to natural force one could turn to. >> i want to talk about this tibecause the question i ha

the shortage of water makes life difficult for the millions of families who live here bonded unc garvey says this, the us heat wave is terrible and it's almost impossible to work in these conditions . he says it's not just farmer's productivity, but also how much they produce that is impacted or delivery actually took a tiny organisms which live in the soil make it for toil. hoover, if it gets to hoppy, be organisms are affected. run awfully. if they are wiped out entirely because of such heat, lumped will eventually become barren. what is wonder them in? we'll have fruit farmer john inquiry also says he has never experienced such blistering, heat, which hath destroyed the orange plantations, for which this area is best known. he adds that the region has been recently prone to sudden weather changes which affect people's work and income. can i get them to him that the weather patterns he had become erotic to work last year? it's suddenly rain, very heavily destroying our crawl. so let us pharmacy and we're completely dependent on nature for farming. and when there is a natural calamity,

at the moment, garvey, which is one of the funding mechanisms to fund the vaccine for many countries, have mobilized 160000000 to allow the initial production and the scale of the vaccine. that is a plan already by end of the 2022 to extend the use of the vaccine in the 3 countries which have been at the moment using that in the only pilot it is and progressively, the company is going to expand their production. but still, we will have probably from 3 to 5 years, a situation where the demand will be certainly much higher than the available supply. does that make his theory? yes, absolutely. i think we in africa, we feel the pain of malaria, as we've seen in the program. we are the ones that suffer all the economic losses that malaria brings. and here we have a potential solution and we're not able to roll it out. i think it's an acceptable, it's weird is like a, a bit of sweet part of the program in that that is a way to save so many lives. there isn't a way to get those resources yet. do you remember we asked the very beginning of the show? is it possible to eradicate malaria in our

well, their traditional sources from the middle east garvey, been taking where we have been purchasing foot minova and then fernandez has more from colombo at the moment. we're having a essentially consumers queuing up at petros sheds like this. now at the moment there's a tape or going right across the shed. this one has about 10 fuel pumps, but there is no fuel. and we've got people sitting around waiting, other people for queues that stretch for several kilometers. these are cars. these are motor bikes. these are 3 below the popular sort of form of taxi here in shall anchor, as well as a whole lot of laurie's and things like that. now, just people i just had random a quick sampling. when i got here to set up up, there have been people waiting here from 530 this morning that's more than 7 hours ago. and they say they're still no sign of a fuel bows or having come into the shed at least 2 of the people i spoke to said they did this yesterday as well. that's federal, obviously diesel, similar stories. because people are beginning to find that they do not have a, they're required fuel t

marcus garvey, he thought that the klansman was in a way, you knew where he stood and malcolm x uses, fox and the wolf, and my animal imagery isn't so great, but there's the -- you know, there's the which ever the one is the sneakier ones who pretends to be your friend versus the one who kind of bares his teeth, the white person who bares his teeth and reveals who he is. thomas uses i think he called it a water moccasin and a copperhead. the same imagery that thomas really values racial candor. and he says, you know, he's working in the reagan administration, in the 1980's, and he's asked about the racism in the reagan administration and he doesn't deny it. he says at least they're honest. at least they're honest and you know, one of his favorite songs in

and so i think you know while there is there, you know, they're movements like marcus garvey's movement and other black nationalist movements that have suggested that there might be some utility either informing like black nationalists would have in our colonies within the larger united states or moving black people in a sort of mass exodus to other countries. i think that something that black people have largely rejected and black people, you know, there's millions of us. and so everybody can have different sensibilities and understandings of what they think the best ideas but largely it's something that historically black people have rejected because they're like, this is our home this place belongs to us too. so it's not a question of us being kicked out or even kicking us ourselves out. it's a question of are you going to live up to the prom? you made when you founded this country, are you going to live up to the promise that you wrote down in the declaration in the constitution? and are you going to fulfill what are these sort of aspirational documents and create this country that

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eastern, former house majority leader jay garvey talks about his book where he gives a look at his timeand the republican legislative successes. and on afterwards, kellyanne conway talks about the 2016 campaign and her time in the trump administration with her memoir here's the deal. she has interviewed by former democratic national committee interim chair donna brazil. watch book tv every sunday on c-span2. find a full schedule on your program guide or watch online anytime at booktv.org. ♪ >> c-span brings you an unfiltered view of government. our newsletter, "word for word," gives you daily press briefings, remarks from the president. scan the qr code to stay up-to-date on everything happening in washington each day. subscribe using the qr code or visit c-span.org/connect to subscribe anytime. >> washington journal continues. host: right after this program on this network, the house will begin debating the gun package. you can see that on c-span. there's a hearing related to guns in the oversight committee, go to our website for more information on that. yesterday during a hearing on