>> i agree with gary b.y made the point a month ago on this show, if you had this in world war ii, you would see what's going on in the concentration camps. the thing is when you show a beheading or death. that is too gruesome. you are showing a crime scene with no business. the blurred out pictures exposed how bad they are. this is a recruiting tool. the government said they use this to spot and find these guys and kill them. that's a reason they leave them up longer than they would like to. that part, i'm in favor of. >> chalk? >> there's a couple points i want to make. there's a difference between u.s. citizens trying to join these groups and others outside the country. we have rights under the constitution and free speech. putting the beheadings and those things, there's no room for that. the second point i want to make is you are already being tracked. as soon as you click on the internet, i put a cookie on your computer and we watch everything you do. >> that's you? you are the one? >> we know what tv

gary b., what do you think? >> well, i definitely think it is. it gets to the bigger issue and i think you mentioned it earlier, which i fall under the tent of hubris. why are we not doing the obvious things here? i don't want to be a monday morning quarterback and say, oh, yeah, i would have thought of all these things. i know there's smart people working in the government. but it seems like we have b-- like when obama said, don't worry about ebola. there's no way it's coming over here. we missed the guy that is now in dallas, getting on the plane because of the fever. we missed the doctor that's going bowling in new york city. we're missing the obvious thinks. that's what worries me. maybe we should start spending our money on just take a step back and say, maybe we don't know everything and we need to learn a little more. >> jonas? >> it's not monday morning. we were talking about this quarantine situation weeks ago. anybody could have thought of this and did think of it weeks ago. we're not talking about money, building nuclear submarines. li

. >> gary b., in the private sector one of the biggest turnarounds, you saw it at ibm, right? >> i did. and my wife worked right next to lou gershner when he came over from rjr nabisco. mr. gershner knew something about commuters because he was an ibm client before that. but he didn't really know about the ftechnology industry. and he did a fantastic job of turning around ibm. i understand what tracy's saying and i agree with certain points but the private sector doesn't always operate like that. another great example is meg whitman. meg whitman before she took over e bay worked at disney and stride-rit sxechlt hasbro and is now at hp. she didn't know anything about i.t. and i think she's doing a good job. i think it's really -- this job is more of a leadership job than a medical job. >> david, he still doesn't have ceo background. i mean, he has a management background and he was responsible for coordinating the first -- in the first year that economic stimulus. it doesn't have much success. >> well, he's got a lot of management experience. you know, this is a gentleman that

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gary said it's very worrisome to me about what i saw. maybe it was a different virus. maybe there is the possibility. maybe you might get a cycle. i'm not saying that to scare people. plan b., what the hell are we going to do if we suddenly see the potential for the transition that might be respiratory in nature. if we can talk about that because people are scaring people come into the blowback has been substantial. i guess i'm getting old and it doesn't bother me so much anymore because it was all based on what i believe to be the true science. it wasn't an attempt to scare but an attempt to have people think about this. but if we had another black swan event we had another reason to be concerned about airplanes. i don't do much of chance is. but i want a plan. and it isn't based on the idle speculation. let me conclude by saying we all want certainty in this situation i guarantee that we will not get it. mother nature will not allow us back. we have to stop providing certainty. we can still provide science and effective public health messages and we can still be in control of our own destiny as it relates to how we respond. but the virus is neutral right foot is happeni