of this message last will be a few hours or a few days so think about gary bauer sometime in june gary barr was sentenced to learn a new prison for insider trading and how many days after that do you think there was a reduction in insider trading i suspect it was very short lived you know it's not in people's mind so you had an example of that happening and maybe it was the office group discussions for a day or two afterwards but once they get that goes off what could close up behavior is not the long term thinking it's what people around us so doing i mean you could think about doping in sport and all kinds of other things when we see examples of people around us misbehave debts actually what's controlling your behavior that once we define for us what's acceptable a lot acceptable and not so much what's legal or illegal and again you can see more with dan ariely on our website the full interview where he dove into crime and punishment for financial crimes that's on line. all right let's wrap up with loose change we did get fed minutes out this week and obviously there's always so much to o

between governor gary johnson of the libertarian party and dr joel stein of the green party both were selected by you our viewers in the last debate on october twenty third in chicago but barr we get to that let's talk a little bit about the issues joining us from our new york studio sam seeder host of the majority report and from los angeles investigative journalist amber lyon sam thanks thanks for having me tom sam welcome to the program or welcome to the to the debate and amber welcome thank you very much it's an honor to be here appreciate it thanks for joining us kristin oh it's wonderful to have both of you this evening and we're here with political correspondents were having a debate actually in an hour right and i'm doing these three and do and thom hartmann as you may be aware will be moderating that to be if they knew me you would know you yeah well and so amber and sam love to have you on and hear you know for equal actions aren't the america really united and bringing together honest media organizations honest media like yourself and i would love to hear a little bit more about who both of you are i guess starting off with amber. well i'm an investigative journa