you mentioned going to columbia and studying with the nobel laureate gary becker, received your ph.d., went to pitt and were on the faculty there at pitt. but i want to pick up the story really with you going to the white house. to be on the staff of the council for the economic advisers. now, let me point out that today as we sit here in 2013 no one really talks about the could be is sill of economic advisers -- council of economic advisers that much anymore. but during the '70s the cea was a big deal because of the things that president nixon wanted to try to do. >> it was. can i backtrack just a minute? >> absolutely. >> and tell one anecdote about why it is that i got a ph.d. at columbia. i was -- bob was teachin princeton, and i was, had a job with the educational testing service. when i decided i wanted to go to graduate school. and burt mckeel, a friend of mine who's famous for having written "a random walk down wall street" decided we wanted to get degrees in economics at princeton. i was told there was one little problem, women were not accepted at princeton even in graduate

you mentioned going to colombia and studying with the nobel laureate gary becker, received your ph.d., went to pitt and were on the faculty there at pitt. but i want to pick up the story really with you going to the white house. to be on the staff of the council for the economic advisers. now, let me point out that today as we sit here in 2013, no one really talks about the council of economic advisers that much anymore. but during the '70s, the cea was a big deal because of the things that president nixon wanted to try to do. >> it was. can i backtrack just a minute? >> absolutely. >> and tell one anecdote about why it is that i got a ph.d. at columbia. .. so i would have to go and talk to the president, the president had been president for 20 years and was about to retire and that conversation did not go well. [laughter] he first responded by saying oh mrs. swett man i am so sorry we cannot accept a student of your caliber but unfortunately we don't have -- for a woman student. i said fortunately that is not a problem because my husband is an instructor at princeton and we live in t