. >>> let's bring back the former cia officer gary bernstein and democratic congresswoman jane harmanmer ranking member of the house intelligence committee. jane, when the cia puts out a statement today, a press release, saying that these enhanced interrogation techniques did in fact work, they provided useful information, important information that helped thwart attack plans, capture terrorists and save american lives, do you agree with the cia? because this is totally counter to what dianne feinsteins report said today saying it was useful and counterproductive, these enhanced interrogation techniques. >> well, the senate intelligence majority report meticulously documents these issues and how we found out about where different high value targets were and john mccain said an hour ago that the abuse of prisoners produces more bad than good intelligence, that captors will say that -- that detainees will say whatever their captors want them to say. >> so you're saying that the cia is flat outlying? >> i'm not saying that they are lying. there are obvious different view points and i hav