gary bower, president of american values and a santorum story. u don't need me to lecture, but i want to start with you, gary, because i don't understand why your guy rick santorum making false charges with national health care mandates regarding obama care and romney care, which has been proven false, where is the economic growth message? where is the tax cut message? where is the energy and gasoline prices message? you are wasting variable -- valuable time, gary. >> well, look, larry. i think that senator santorum has a pretty good tax plan. in fact, i would argue it's better and more reagan-like than the one that governor romney has, but in all of these candidates they have gone after each other during this process. i would have felt a lot better just like you just like they run their negative ads attacking barack obama since there's so much to talk about. i certainly wouldn't pin it on santorum as being the guy that started out negative. we'll see what governor pawlenty says about that. while i agree with you that we ought to be taking on pres