people within the administration couldn't convince the president. >> that's right and gary cohen was still holding out hope, even on wednesday staying this isn't over privately. these are the people he's been working with for a long time and he was told that lloyd bank fien, the first time helped ever tweeted was about this and gary cohen said this took him by surprise. it doesn't. robert: president vladimir putin conceded his country couch had a connection in the election. his alternative theory is that private citizens, so-called patriotic hackers, may have acted on their own. >> they fight against those who say bad things about russia. robert: he was dismissive of this ymed that russia has had a prominent role. how is this going to affect the ongoing probes? kelly: he also said that a child couch hacked the american election and he referred specifically to her daughter. it's akin to donald trump saying he didn't even knew that she had an underage daughter but it's akin to donald trump saying it could be some 400-pound guy sitting on a bed in new jersey who would have hacked the el

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but he's got gary cohen as his chief economic adviser in the white house. gary's name has been floated around really since inauguration. the guy having run goldman sachs, been there for 26 years. he knows how to run a large place. but he's a moderate guy. he's of the camp, the globalist, the hard-core trump fans might not be big fans of gary. the question is, who has president trump's ear? you saw gary and h.r. mcmaster on the international trip with president trump. speaking at the end of the g7, saying this was a listening trip for the president. he was learning, while at the same time, kind of apologizing for him. gary and h.r. wrote an op-ed in the "wall street journal." saying, his america first message is not about america being alone. so they're kind of doing some clean-up. so it's somewhat unclear. >> what do you think the president wants and what do you think the president needs in terms of staff? >> well, i don't know what he wants, but i can tell you what he needs. fresh legs, more legs. a rejigger. you know. i don't know what's wrong. i don't kn

the problem is gary cohen was a commodities trader. he has as much experience to be fed chairman as our own eric bowen. seriously, the same resume, the same college experience. i'm not criticizing eric. look at his academic background. he is not a phd in economics, he's never studied economics. he is a guy that was a commodities trader. so is eric. that is what were dealing with here. he is probably not going to be fed chairman. the closest thing he's got is leading a search to find one. here's one thing i would say about this, donald trump is playing with fire with this in this sense. i keep hearing administration officials say were gonna get tax cuts done this year and it's coming, but they haven't materialized and are not even close. if you put in somebody in there that is not a dove, someone who believes in a strong dollar, someone who does not believe in constant easing every time there's an economic downturn and that inflation needs to be the first thing the fed addresses, not the other part of their mandate which is employment,

. >> there is gary cohen and national security adviser h.r.cmaster and the treasury secretary steve mnuchin. we are waiting like to hear from ,resident trump on his decision reported decision to withdraw the u.s. from the paris climate change accord. democrats on twitter. garamendi of california saying i strongly oppose the president's decision to withdraw from the paris or agreement. this provides vital protection for our health and environment. we look for your comments on twitter as well. we will follow-up with your phone calls. live coverage from the rose garden here on c-span. >> the most brilliant and one b in washington after a long-range spell. we are live in the rose garden as we wait to hear from president trump. the cnbc white house correspondent tweets i just spotted grover norquist walking into the rose garden. he flashed me a thumbs up and seems pleased with what we are about to hear. politico reporting on some of what we are about to hear. some talking points. some bullet points on the president's comments this afternoon on the

gary cohen on health care, jobs, and what's next for american energy. >>> we'll begin this morning with the countdown to president trump's travel ban finally going into effect and we are hours away from portions of the revised ban being implemented following the supreme court's decision that took place earlier this week. and we are covering every angle of this developing story. how it's going to affect you and people around the world. we have the best team of reporters and analysts on hand starting with nbc's peter alexander live at the white house. peter, as usual, i'm confused. who does the ban impact and what does it mean for travellers? >> good question. it hasn't formally been laid out by the administration but we are getting a better understanding where it stands. months after the president's initial then revised travel ban, now the enforcement begins about 8:00 p.m. today. that's with the implementation in effect. these are the countries affected. they include iran, sudan, libya, syria, somalia, and yemen. this 90 day, 120-day travel ban takes effect, modified relationship to som

gary cohen is here, wilbur ross is here and that's a very important thing.ilbur, perhaps you would like to say a few things about trade right now and we can probably leave the media. perhaps you would say a few words about trade and what we're looking to do. >> yes, sir. trade imbalance with south korea has doubled since the treat qy a put into infect. the largest single component of that is automotive trade a absolute majority of -- about a nontariff trade barriers to the u.s. exports only 25,000 cars per big three manufacturer are allowed in based on u.s. engines. anything above that needs to be encore even standards. so that kind of rulemaking effects quite a few industries and really restricts the 5:00 stha access that u.s. companies have to the korean market we have a separate problem with other steel products there is no domestic market for tubular goods in korea so everything they make is for export and we've had recent trade cases demonstrating that a lot of that is dumped chinese steel coming as hot rolled coil and then coming back to the u.s.'s oil

i know you have obviously gary cohen in the administration.love to know what your relationship with him is, the treasury secretary and what the administration is fulfilling some of the things you thought could happen when trump was elected. >> yeah. you know, i can't say i'm on all fours in line with the administration across the board. but as far as the economy is going, as far as markets are going, they recommended stimulus in the form of lower taxes, spending on infrastructure, taking away maybe some of the layers and layers of redundant regulation that's certainly good for the market but generally i think good for the economy. i know that there's some people who believe, as do we all, that sensible regulation is good. but there was some redundancies and there's been a bit of a wax buildup as layers have gotten on it and impeded the economy and he represented trying to deal wit the devil, of course, is in the details and how you look at it depends on things. but it seems to have gotten bogged down in the issue i would say the market now is

the point they were making, gary cohen made it well. it was in response to whether or not he believes in climate change. he asked for remediation from global warming damage from golf courses. he wants it both ways. wolf blitzer asking gary cohen four times does the president believe. every time he says he believes in jobs. listen. >> does the president believe climate change is a hoax? >> this is not about whether climate change is occurring or not. >> does president trump still believe climate change is a hoax? >> what president trump believes is he was elected to grow the u.s. economy. >> with all due respect, gary, you are not answering the question. >> i'm answering what the president is committed to. you have to actually ask him. >> can you say the president believes human activity is contributing to the warming of the climate? >> i have not asked him. i can get back to. >> you haven't asked him if he believes in climate change? you have to ask him directly. isn't that what a white house spokesperson is all about? i think it is a b

i don't care what gary cohen's position is on policy. it'ser the president's policies that we all voted for. >> is the president aware of exactly who the people are who are leaking? they may in fact be his relatives. >> that's the key thing. the leaking is the problem. why are people leaking? and people leak for a reason. and what this administration, what we see in this administration is that you have leaking that has been weaponized. it is used as a way to further an agenda which is not wholly clear by anyone at this point. all we know is it's getting outside the administration and somebody's got to figure out how to stop that. i think the president can have a hand in that. >> that was a little grenade you dropped. what did you mean by that? >> i interviewed the former editor and chief of the washington observer and she had said to me jared kushner might not speak in public but for years he knows how to speak in private. president trump being someone who has a very close relationship with the man who owns the national inquirer who may

his kmeef economic adviser is gary cohen, chief economic adviser gary cohen who was the president of goldman sachs and a man who received a $285 million severance package. the treasury secretary and delighted that you're with us to day, secretary mnuchin, worked at goldman sachs for 17 years. mr. chairman, one of the great scandals of our time which is still impacting millions of americans today is greatest s scandal -- it caused massive unemployment in this country and people lost their homes and savings. we had financial institutions who sold mortgage bank securities that were worth less while they rip off low income and working families throughout the country. in fact, among virtually every other major finance institution as a result of their illegal activities, goldman sacks paid a fine to the federal government. instead of informing wall street which is what the president said he would do, instead of reinstating as he promised what he will do, president trump endorsed a house last week that would deregulate wall street increasing the odds of the taxpayer bail out bigger than 200

gary cohen is here and ross is here. i think it's a very important thing. wilbur, perhaps you would like to say a few things about trade right now. we can probably leave the media. trade is important. things about trade and what we are looking to do. >> yes, sir. trade imbalance with south korea doubled since the treaty was put into effect. the largest single component as trade. that's an absolute majority. nontariff trade barriers to the u.s., only 25,000 cars per big three manufacturer are allowed in based on u.s. standards. anything above that needs to be on korean standards. that kind of rule making affects quite a few industries and restricts the access that u.s. companies have to the korean market. we have a separate problem with oil field tubular goods and other steel products. there is no domestic market for tubular goods in korea. everything they make is exported. we have recent trade cases demonstrating a lot of that is in chinese field coming as oil and coming to the u.s.'s autofield. the amount of specific problem and the way to address it is pr

the chief strategist bannon and 22 senate republicans pull for trump to pull out of the deal, and gary cohen, daughter, and son-in-law jared kushne saying to stay, and the pope, apple ceo, and tesla's head musk lobbying to say, musk threatening to retire from the counsel if trump backs out of the deal. the president is a very impulsive, reactive personality, so if we all liked paris agreement, he may decide to get out of it. >> reporter: it's a signature achievement for president obama's legacy to fight climate change and is now a political gamble for president trump who wants to increase miss sill fuel jut put to revive the coal industry. >> stay with us for continuing coverage on the paris climate agreement. abc news has a live special report at noon when the president announces his decision from the white house rose garden. >>> this midday, new details now on former fbi director james comey's plan to break silence about his meetings with president trump and set a date to testify before the senate intelligence committee thursday, a week from today. the senate inquiry focuses on the nature

the wall street journal came up here today with a story that maybe gary cohen, the top economic advisorld trump, might be a candidate to fill in, but not right now. she will probably finish her term, then there is so much more time passing until february 2018, when he next chairman of the federal -- when the next chairman of the federal reserve will be nominated by the president. javier: it will sure to be one of his friends. thank you for the analysis. killing an elephant to get ivory does not sound like a sophisticated task. but the groups behind it are smarter than we may think. a study by interval -- interpol says smugglers are using the darknet as a platform for transactions, and it is paying off. trading with wildlife is the fourth most profitable illegal business after drugs, weapons, and people. reporter: four decades ago there was still an estimated 1.3 million l.a. -- elephants in africa. today that number is down to 350,000. poaching is to blame. elephant tusks fetch high prices despite the international ban on the ivory trade. authorities in kenya confiscate and destroy hund

the treasury secretary and gary cohen talk with top republicans about how to keep moving despite allat is tuck sucking up the air in washington. paul ryan and mitch mcconnell there as well as well as kevin brady and senator hatch. republican leaders were at the white house earlier this afternoon as president trump tried to show that his administration is making progress on its legislative agenda, and the president talked about tax reform. >> we'll be discussing that in great depth next week with gary cohen and steven mnuchin and make pence to work on it and pass a massive tax cut, the biggest in the country's history. it'll be the biggest tax cut in the country's history. it will spur business like never before. >> reporter: remember, congressional rules prevent congress from moving on tax reform until health care is done. on top of that, the white house is warning lawmakers that they need to raise the debt ceiling before the august recess. the house has 30 working days left. the senate with 33. kelly, that's not a lot of time. back over to you. >> yeah. that's the concern. ylan, tha

explain that didn't mean that the german people were bad but interpreter by the way in the form of gary cohen works for the president but that seems to be a theme with this administration you have to have some of his people come up and sort of the proverbial cleanup crew behind the elephant trying to explain it that now yes it's a big job but the bottom line is is that i don't see it happening first of all you've got to be careful what you're asking for when you're criticizing germany i mean he was particularly talking about cars and putting a thirty five percent tariff on cars but guess what they produced four hundred fifty thousand b.m.w.'s they're really not in the part you are going to us well and not only that but he's it seems like he's turning away from that whole logo you know the concept of the german car absolutely here really like those cars coming in the same thing by the way with with v.w. i mean they produce in chattanooga one hundred fifty thousand of the pacific was being produced there there is two thousand workers there they're going to produce the new big s.u.v.s the larges

gary cohen is director of the national planning at the white house.rning. >> good morning, charlie that how much is in effect including health care, tax reform, and infrastructure? >> look, charlie. we're here to implement the president's agenda. that's what we're doing. we're working every day to do that and we're just nowin plowi ahead with that. >> clearly that sounds like a can dancer. how are you going t through congress with so much attention and distraction going on. >> as you know, you said we're going to cincinnati today. we've got 12,000 miles of inland waterways. an enormous amount of freight moves through. we're huge with agricultural products through the world, the ohio river, the mississippi river. we talked on monday about air traffic control and the privatization of air traffic control. we're doing all these things to make american citizens like us better. we're trying to improve the quality of life of american citizens an we're committed to that. >> clearly, that isn't what they're talking about and focusing on. i'm curious where the

you have steven mnuchin, gary cohen advising on the economy as well. been very successful, because they've been able to figure out the economic puzzle and how to succeed in the country. president trump said i wanted to get the best and brightest out there. >> juan: can i interrupt? >> kimberly: yes. >> juan: he the richest. >> kimberly: i said when he ran for office. >> juan: last night he said the richest. >> kimberly: he saying it makes sense. >> juan: if he said what you said, i might buy back into it. >> kimberly: would you vote for me, juan? >> juan: i can't help myself. i would. >> greg: i don't want someone with poor upper body strength to help me lift my couch. he is talking about the people that we know in our lives who are poor, no matter what they do with their money. no matter how much money they make it, they are just not good with their finances. somebody who is great with their finances, in charge of our finances, you want a great accountant who is good with money. it's amazing how pathetic the critics are. they know what he meant but --

the president, the white house, i was listening to gary cohen a couple days ago, listening -- speaking to a number of energy officials and he was saying the white house wants to be able to focus on tax reform as soon as the middle of august, that's only a couple of months away and they can't get through health care. visit budget battle that is going through. it does seem these tweets are distracting from members of congress being able to get the agenda through and if they can't get the agenda through, they can't get the tax reform, they get get the infrastructure, and it will take longer for the president to get his agenda passed through congress. the tweets aren't helping, your hearing from republican members. david: after the fourth of july holiday i imagine you will be packing your bags for your trip to hamburg. we learned the president is going to be meeting with his russian counterpart. how large does that loom? >> i imagine it will be some of anymost scrutinized tape of president trump's meetings with foreign leaders, obviously the body language, there will be a lot of examinatio

i want to ask about the president meeting with putin that's coming up and gary cohen and h.r. mcmaster and it definitive answer from you on whether the person will bring up election interference. if the president going to press putin on that? >> obviously i'm not going to get out of the president's conversation. as we typically do i would imagine we will have a readout after that conversation takes place. >> john. >> i'll come to you next. >> the president's tweet's today doesn't help his legislative agenda? does that help them win the votes of the nine senators who have come out against that senate bill senator colin senator murkowski for instance? what is your view on that? >> again i think were just looking for new ways to rephrase this question. the president was attacked and he responded. there's nothing more i have to add a nap. >> but as it relates to his legislative agenda and not asking about his tweeted self unmasking about whether or not this helps his legislative agenda. >> i think the president would love for us to focus on the legislative agenda awful lot more. i

gary cohen said that the sanctions are being held in place and the president said he was being toughr any other country. i'm not trying to stib it. there is growing frustration by our president and he is frustrated that he can't get his agenda up to the hill, but he can get scandals incorporated in a nonstop manner. frankly the american people on both sides, democrats and republicans are frustrated with this and we would probably suggest to people let's subordinate this nonsense and focus on an agenda that is pro growth and good for the middle class families. >> you think the president should stop tweeting about the investigation? >> he is not going to listen to me on that and i don't think he will listen to you on that. >> i hear your frustration. >> i think the tweets are effective. >> every time he does it he brings it up. >> he spelled coverage wrong and it came out covfefe. the president is very entertaining. >> isn't that his issue. he is not compartmentalizing this. i look at it and it's the president that insists it's a hoax and threatened comey with tapes. in every step, act

you hear this from people like gary cohen. it will make other products competitive. you heard scott pruitt did ministration same the only issue that the president considered is the paris feel good or bad for the united states does it put doesn't put it as an economic disadvantage. the ruling on that is a yes. the other issue is that congress comes back to washington next week and boy does it have a full plate. most important among some is raising the debt ceiling. the secretary of the treasury has said we had hit it actually. the extraordinary measures. he wants this race. the administration is willing to look whatever they can. to help them pass it. that is a conversation. that is the other stakeholder freedom caucus. bipartisan recognition. what it takes to get it done. today the questions were mostly about the paris accord and climate change and what the president intends to do. thother signers ofaccord to move forward. back to you. >> let's take a look at these markets you can take a look at the highs of the session. fifty-five points. this is on the heels of tod

perhaps they did not because gary cohen indicated the view was evolving on the subject, but as we knowow, not to the point of him staying in the paris accord. >> yeah. >> perhaps a reason why they didn't feel there was more pressure from europe not to go in this direction. >> reporter: there was rhetoric in the administration on views on the foreign trip, but how far has he evolved, and you can imagine from the european leader's perspective, they would not have wanted to make the president feel boxed in in terms of his decision. they didn't want to have a dramatic staredown with the president under the assumption he would not respond well to that. the one person upgraded from the dramatic stare down with elan musk saying he'd remove himself from the ceo advisory counsels here on at the white house if the president pulled from the accord. if that's the case, if that announcement today, watch elon's twitter feed the rest of the afternoon to see what he does here. >> not only his, but apple ceo reportedly called the white house last night pressing the president not to do this. celebrities

gary cohen, the president of goldman sachs. somebody said why did you appoint the rich person to be in charge of -- i said -- no, it's true. and wilbur's a very rich person in charge of commerce. i said because that's the kind of thinking we want. >> david, what's wrong with poor people? >> nothing's wrong with poor people, don. i will say this about the president's messaging here that i think democrats should think a little bit about. yes, there was a ton of talk about income and equality on both sides. president trump went out of his way to criticize goldman sachs types when campaigning for president but he understands something which is that american's fundamentally identify with wealthy people. i wrote a column before i was at the washington post where i said president obama should remind people that he's a millionaire. americans, for better or worse, like millionaires and it resonates with all of us this idea of people who have money understand something about money and economy. whether or not there's any substance to that

this is what is dismaying to the white house feared jared kushner, a bongo trump, gary cohen, all theseames we hear every day have a limitation in what they can do -- ivanka trump. charlie: al, democrats can just sit and watch? al: some of them are crazy enough to start talking about impeachment which is so premature right now. but i think most of them are going to sit and watch and see what happens. and i think to go again, bob is the best. he knows trump. jared kushner, whatever influence he has has to have been diminished because he is in the crosshairs. thate's got, i think probably will affect the president as much as anything. i think from the democrats point of view they have to see what happens. the intelligence committees are going to have to defer to robert mueller. that will be hard but they will have to do that. robert: do you want to hear something about jared kushner real quick? the president brought reporters into the white house for a press gagle. gle. he said, jared kushner has become more famous than me. that is a classic trump way of putting someone down. in trump's o

we have gary cohen, president of goldman sachs. somebody said, why did you appoint a rich person? to be in charge of the economy? i said -- no. it's true. and wilbur's a very rich person in charge of commerce. i said, because that's the kind of thinking we want. >> i love all people. rich or poor, but in those particular positions, i just don't want a poor person. does that make sense? >> all right. you could see this -- interpret this, i'm sure the president supporters say as he wants. people who have had success in this economy, i.e., people who may be rich helping make the decisions to run this economy. and you take issue with that? >> well, being rich doesn't mean that you have wisdom. it doesn't mean that you have compassion. it doesn't mean that you understand the lives that most americans are living. and what we know is that the plan, which is going to be released today by the republicans, put together if that's what the president is saying, by rich people, is obviously aimed towards getting a tax break for rich people. he's made that clear. he said -- he said to the americ

you have steven mnuchin, gary cohen advising on the economy as well.successful, because they've been able to figure out the economic puzzle and how to succeed in the country. so, when president trump ran for office, he said, i want to get the best and the brightest available out there to help me with this challenge to make america great again. >> juan: can i interrupt? >> kimberly: yes. >> juan: he the richest. >> kimberly: i said when he ran for office. this is what he promised. >> juan: last night, he said the richest. >> kimberly: he said it makes sense to have someone who knows how to make money. >> juan: if he said what you said, i might buy into it. >> kimberly: would you vote for me, juan? >> juan: i can't help myself. i would. >> greg: he basically said, i don't want a clumsy person helping me move my couch. l there two types of poor people. there is a class designation where you work hard but you are never going to get rich. he is talking about the people that we know in our lives who are poor, no matter what they do withuc their money. no mat

ask about this meeting with president putin coming up next woke that has been can confirmed by gary cohen and hr mcmaster and whether the president will bring up election interference. the fact that moscow mid-meddled in the election is the president going to press utsen oh that. >> obviously i'm get getting ahead of the conversation. i would imagine we'll have a read outafter the conversation take place. >> well back to "the 11th hour" that was the confirmation of something we mentioned earlier. the president will indeed meet with vladimir putin next week. kind of a side bar conversation as part of the larger g 20 summit in germany hosted by merkel of germany. there is also this tonight from the "wall street journal," quote gop operative sought clinton emails from hangers implied a connection to flynn. while joining us tonight politico seen year foreign affairs editor michael crowley published a piece on the worries about the trump putin meeting. more on that that. formerly department of justice prosecutor these days a georgetown law professor paul butt remember who we know has skaebd wa

we have gary cohen who is the present at goldman sachs. he's the president of goldman sachs.- to take the job. why argue wanting a rich person to be in charge of the economy? i said, no it's true. wilbur is a very rich person in charge of commerce. they said that's because that's the kind of thinking we want. really because they are representing the country. they don't want the money. they are representing the country and they had to give up a lot to take these jobs. they gave up a lot. you get the president, the president of goldman sachs, smart, having him represent us. he went from massive heydays to peanuts. i'm waiting for them to accuse him of wanting that little amount of money. but these are people that are great brilliant business minds and that's what we need. that's what we have to have so the world doesn't take advantage of us. we can have the world taking advantage of us anymore. [applause] and i love all people, rich or poor but in those particular positions i just don't want a poor person. does that make sense? if you insist, i will do it but i like it better t

last night when gary cohen was talking to wolf, wolf asked him about the country being left behind.licon valley is somewhere where there's been a lot of people being led by the united states. you already have france saying come here, we're a better climate for you. that sort of thing could end up hurting country if some of these silicon valley companies decide to say you know what, you're right. >> we've mentioned it here a little bit, but it's important to remember the paris agreement does not determine how much carbon the u.s. will be emitting in the next ten years. when trump says we're going to create all these jobs and we're going to change the economy and all that, that hasn't happened. moving out of the paris agreement just means we are not going to abide by previous voluntary standard. now the discussion will begin with what we do want to do with fuel economy standards, what do we want to do with utilities and methane gas. those decisions, including ones made by states, will determine how much carbon is putting out. >> the implications, we already know about the sort of trum

summits, and also drilled home in an op-ed this week from national security adviser hr mcmaster and gary cohenmic council, writing, quote, the president embarked on his first foreign trip with clear-eyed look that the world is not a global community but an arena where we bring to this form unmatched military, political, economic, and moral strength. rather than deny this, we embrace it. the world described as an arena where everyone competes for an advantage. it would seem by those lights that the u.s. no longer relishes leading a free or interdependent world. general mcmaster in particular has played a key role on all of this. brought on as a well regarded national security adviser after mike flynn had to go. he has been forced lately to defend everything from trump's embrace of autocrats to jared kushner's supposed alleged attempt to have a secret back channel with russia. and that sense that this highly respected adult in the room is now towing the line for the trump administration led to an op-ed of its own. and it is a doozy entitled general mcmaster, step down and let trump be trump. sav

keep in mind just last week during the president's foreign trip gary cohen, the president's top economic adviser he was asked what is the position on sanctions and he said the president didn't have one. he had to clarify and said no, we do believe in keeping the sanctions in place until russia changes its behavior in ukraine. that is essentially the position that's been taken by the secretary of state rex tillerson. we do know by trying to confirm a "washington post" report mentions this as well there is a discussion about the russian comp pounds that were expelled from during the last days of the omar administration. that was in retaliation that the obama administration took for russia's actions in the u.s. election. so the question becomes well, is this something that the u.s. is preparing to do? i talked to a senior administration official earlier this week who said this still hinges on whether the russians change their behavior in ukraine, but it is something up for discussion. it's something they're talking about among many issues. it's been described as being on p a parallel track.

ambassador to the u.n., gary cohen, the president's economic advisor, right. that group, that group sees the world the way i do. which is the u.s. has to lead. and when the u.s. doesn't lead, that vacuum is filled by our adversaries and we pay a price, right? so that group believes in free trade, right. that group believes in -- in-- in climate change, in sticking to our commitments on climate change and on the risks posed by climate change. those are the two primary groups. and then there's two others. both of those others have only one person in it. the third one is jared kushner who has-- without has, you know, amazing influence with the president. and i think he comes at things not from an idea logical perspective, not from a perspective of what is in the best long-term interests of u.s. national security, but from a perspective of making sure my father in law doesn't make a mistake. making sure that his legacy is not tarred. and so i tul actually call him, interestingly i call him the barack obama of the trump administration. >> rose: because. >> he's ris

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