. >> whatever happened to gary cooper, the strong, silent type? that was an american.'t in touch with his feelifeel i i ings. once they got gary cooper in touch with his feelings, they couldn't shut him up. >> you have strong feelings about this. >> every decade you get somebody like peter falk or archie bunker, somebody you can't imagine anybody else afterwards. james beis that in tony soprano >> did you know an italian invented the telephone? >> alexander graham bell is italian? >> he got robbed! everybody knows that! >> who invented the mafia? >> what? >> the sopranos took the mystery out of being a mobster. ♪ >> it was somehow more mundane that we guessed it would be, and yet every bit as riveting as the godfather. >> you werel like a brother to me. >> the debate raged at hbo about whether you could have a guy like this as your lead. and david chase was adamant that this is who he is and he was right. >> can you assure me that tony soprano isn't going to become a sensitive, nurturing man? >> yes. >> oh, good. [ laughter ] >> be home in a couple hours, don't worry.

gary: it's going to be tricky. the president has had the same party trifecta in charge. once you break that, it comes much harder to get legislation through. in particular there is no real incentive to cooperategh bear in mind that things like the earmarks are back in congress, which can provide some incentive for some things. laura: money for your district. gary: exactly that, the porkbarrel, etc.. that can help but it's going to be hard. you will find joe biden relying on t achievements he's already got. which are not significant and in many ways he will say prevented the red wave and put them within striking distance of putting the house back next time around. certainly that will be a key target, i keep kind of mark of the success of jeffries, if he can overturn that. laura: gary, thank you so much for joining us. other news around the world, antigovernment protesters around iran took to the streets to protest the lost the u.s.. one man was shot in the head after honking his car horn in celebration of tuesday night. many iranians refused to support the football team, seeing it as a representation of the islamic republic. a south african president facing the risk of impeachment after an ind

if this is a post 9/11 era and as gary said, there are new alliances, new forms of cooperation are emergingwhen we talk of europe, what do we mean? there is no europe. there is eastern europe, there is a western europe, there are scandinavian countries, the baltic nations. they have. different national interests. and i will tell you from working at the state department, our friends are not always very friendly. and how is that helpful. it's nice to be in washington and not have to work in the bureaucracy. this is such a nice way to visit this city. >> would you say nato is not working right now? it feels like nato has risen to the moment. >> the bulk of the assistance is not actually nato assistance. what is actually helping the ukrainians on the ground, it is u.s. intelligence. how do the ukrainians know where to target? they know because of us, because no one comes anywhere near us when it comes to intelligence. not the brits, not the australians, not the partners. we are appear, they are down there. so that is number one, but number two in terms of material, yes, europe helps. but again,