to me you had mentioned gary couldhen, this is a really interesting. gary couldhen is the head of the national economic council and the guy in the white house. >> formally at goldman sax. it is not just goldman sax, all the big wall street guy, people in finance that i know think incredibly highly of gary couldhen. they think he's a very serious guy and they think is he able to provide precisely the kind av dult supervision were you talking about. the interesting thing is there is nobody in the white house who can provide adult supervision yet on national security and foreign policy. mattis at the pentagon, hopefully tillerson may be, we don't really know because he never has done this scrob but is obviously serious in other respects. and there are some people outside in the departments but in the white house, there's nobody who does national security or foreign policy in the white house who can provide anything like adult professional supervision. and whether they get ssh like that, like a gary cohen for foreign policy we would all be able to breathe

on the other hand, the president's chief economic advisor gary couldhen a-- couldhen a terted the other day that dodd-frank cost billions of dollars. i have asked repeatedly for some backup, some documentation, some support for that claim coming from the president's chief economic advisor. at a time when the total profits of all the banks are less than $200 billion, no response. in the same interview koan talked about how we allow people to eat unsafe foods, some kind of analogy suggesting that we should dismantle the consumer financial protection bureau. i see the things that are done in credit arrangements to take advantage of unsuspecting people and it what take too long to explain them in detail to your viewers, but they are unconscionable. and there is much more that needs to be done to assure the proper provision of consumer credit, and the unsuspecting people are not stolen from by major financial institutions. so i think the idea that we should show be stripping away consumer financial regulation is cruel and is badly wrong. i look at what has happened to the water supply in fli