forget him. >> gary hart. you can't get him out of your mind. >> paid for by the gary hart for president committee. chris: hart was sunk for the presidency but in the case of bill clinton, he survived the year-long displeasure from the lewinski case. unbelievably, bob livingston suddenly had to go when his affair was revealed days before he was to take the gavel. snl loved their frustration over clinton. >> he lies about it under oath then we prosecute him and he's still in the white house and we lose our job. >> thanks for letting me use the coat room, hank. >> i'll see you later. >> hi, fellas, how are you? >> hank, how about a drink for these two from the president of the united states. chris: when we return, herman cain came out of nowhere thanks to the tv debates. irony of ironies, did tv hand it to the most boring guy? chris: welcome back. republicans with their ears to the ground are hearing a new rumble out there and my msnbc colleague, joe scarborough, describes it. >> hearing something remarkable ove

and gary hart came within a hair of doing that. >> hart's unexpectedly strong challenge, vindicated pat caddell's strategy, which others would try again and again. in 1988, vice-president george h.w. bush became the next front runner to get blindicided in iowa by a new force. >> i love to see you as one nation under god. >> the religious right. >> up to that time, evangelical christians had not gotten into politics. i realized, if the precincts are organized and candidates can win, so i set out to organize people. >> i was hosting an iowa caucus and the people i had not seen in the caucus before, good, solid, evangelical people, my neighbors and friend his a slip of paper. i am siting there as an establishment republican and i'm resentful because they elected their delegates and i became an alternate, not a delegate. i thought the johnny-come-latelies have come in and organized and taken over our process. >> the johnny come latelies propelled pat robertson into second place, behind bob dole and ahead of the stunned vice-president. bush did end up win winning the nomination and the white

and gary hart came within a hair of doing that. >> hart's unexpectedly strong challenge, vindicated pat which others would try again and again. in 1988, vice-president george h.w. bush became the next front runner to get blindicided in iowa by a new force. >> i love to see you as one nation under god. >> the religious right. >> up to that time, evangelical christians had not gotten into politics. i realized, if the precincts are organized and candidates can win, so i set out to organize people. >> i was hosting an iowa caucus and the people i had not seen in the caucus before, good, solid, evangelical people, my neighbors and friend his a slip of paper. i am siting there as an establishment republican and i'm resentful because they elected their delegates and i became an alternate, not a delegate. i thought the johnny-come-latelies have come in and organized and taken over our process. >> the johnny come latelies propelled pat robertson into second place, behind bob dole and ahead of the stunned vice-president. bush did end up win winning the nomination and the white house. but the part

and gary hart came within a hair of doing that. >> hart's unexpectedly strong challenge, vindicated pat caddell's strategy, which others would try again and again. in 1988, vice-president george h.w. bush became the next front runner to get blindicided in iowa by a new force. >> i love to see you as one nation under god. >> the religious right. >> up to that time, evangelical christians had not gotten into politics. i realized, if the precincts are organized and candidates can win, so i set out to organize people. >> i was hosting an iowa caucus and the people i had not seen in the caucus before, good, solid, evangelical people, my neighbors and friend his a slip of paper. i am siting there as an establishment republican and i'm resentful because they elected their delegates and i became an alternate, not a delegate. i thought the johnny-come-latelies have come in and organized and taken over our process. >> the johnny come latelies propelled pat robertson into second place, behind bob dole and ahead of the stunned vice-president. bush did end up win winning the nomination and the white

. >> even it reminds me of the earlier gary hart campaign.t said -- first denied it and said if you don't believe me, follow me. the press did follow him, and it led to him with a woman. these things are -- it's survivable for bill clinton. he was already president at the time, though. he wasn't just running. i think that even -- it's interesting that huckabee would say that the most damaging is the most recent in terms behavior because consenting behavior between adults, i think, is kind of in a different category for many voters than charges of harassment and unwanted sexual advances made in the workplace, which after all are treated as crimes. so it is -- it's a different category, and there's proof and the kind of thing investigative reporters can nail down. i imagine there's more proof that one can find, because the woman says she traveled with herman cain and there ought to be travel records and plane tickets people could find. >> yeah. we're still trying to find out from the national restaurant association whether the restaurant associ

and gary hart came within a hair of doing that. >> hart's unexpectedly strong challenge, vindicated pat others would try again and again. in 1988, vice-president george h.w. bush became the next front runner to get blindicided in iowa by a new force. >> i love to see you as one nation under god. >> the religious right. >> up to that time, evangelical christians had not gotten into politics. i realized, if the precincts are organized and candidates can win, so i set out to organize people. >> i was hosting an iowa caucus and the people i had not seen in the caucus before, good, solid, evangelical people, my neighbors and friend his a slip of paper. i am siting there as an establishment republican and i'm resentful because they elected their delegates and i became an alternate, not a delegate. i thought the johnny-come-latelies have come in and organized and taken over our process. >> the johnny come latelies propelled pat robertson into second place, behind bob dole and ahead of the stunned vice-president. bush did end up win winning the nomination and the white house. but the party was

and gary hart came within a hair of doing that. >> hart's unexpectedly strong challenge, vindicated pataddell's strategy, which others would try again and again. in 1988, vice-president george h.w. bush became the next front runner to get blindicided in iowa by a new force. >> i love to see you as one nation under god. >> the religious right. >> up to that time, evangelical christians had not gotten into politics. i realized, if the precincts are organized and candidates can win, so i set out to organize people. >> i was hosting an iowa caucus and the people i had not seen in the caucus before, good, solid, evangelical people, my neighbors and friend his a slip of paper. i am siting there as an establishment republican and i'm resentful because they elected their delegates and i became an alternate, not a delegate. i thought the johnny-come-latelies have come in and organized and taken over our process. >> the johnny come latelies propelled pat robertson into second place, behind bob dole and ahead of the stunned vice-president. bush did end up win winning the nomination and the white h

. >> gary hart. like i said, voters, particularly republican voters care about the moral values. and so they get to choose them based on them and that's what they decided to do. that's where we are. >> any chance in your mind that a, herman cain can reconstitute this campaign or is there some real organized effort out there? >> there has been. if you watch fox news, a lot of republican leaders are saying herman cain needed distracting. his opponents say he should get out of the race. he is headed toward no chance in recovering. >> thank you so much for talking with us. we'll do it again soon. >> police are moving in on dc occupiers. park police arrested two occupiers. one seen with illegal drugs. police support the occupiers are violating park rules, like public urination, alcohol use. the national park service posted signs reminding the occupiers. however, they found a loophole around the no camping ban. >> we're not camping. we're holding a 24 hour vigil. >> there's a blur of fine line between camping and a 24 hour vigil. can you admit that? >> that's correct. >> fine line inde

gary hart said, put a tail on me, me, somebody did, and became the tail. and the question is, is this what he thought he didn't have to deal with? it doesn't quite make sense to make a statement like that, comprehensive denial of any problems. >> and when he said that in march, he was basically on a lark. he was getting ready to run for president, not as a serious candidate. he was in on the joke. he knew he wasn't going to be the president, you know, it would help his speaking fees, maybe he'd get a cable news gig, maybe he'd replace you on "hardball," but he wasn't thinking he was going to be elected president. suddenly, lightning strikes, he's a major contender. you have a whole different level of scrutiny and of honesty, and he wouldn't be speaking that same way, he wouldn't say, come put a tail on me. >> actually, i think he'd be looking for a job on another network, just my guess, dana. perhaps fox. alex, your sense of why he offered such a blanket denial of any skeletons in his closet so overtly if he did know of these? >> well, i think dana's point

you can see the full interview with gary hart schroeder chairman of the board of north stream project and twenty five minutes here on our. great leaders are struggling to decide who should become the new prime minister to lead a crisis coalition george pop on those agreed to go but is locked in a row with the opposition leader over who should replace some athens is under enormous pressure to act fast and push through cuts before it can get more emergency cash sarah firth's asked the greeks how they assess the mess there and. as the euro saying crisis rumbles on greece is once again found itself the focus of international attention and it seems like everyone's had an opinion about the situation here in the country we decided to come from and. which is really be me out it's so much of this year a crisis if the find out what the people of greece have to say about it all. so we sense that the camera and the mike. to. let the people have taken away alone we are. all the people. i thing. everything is. actually it's like they're trying to frighten us or something like hi my name is vicky. n

late eighty's or in one thousand i think presidential candidate who everyone thought was a shoe and gary hart photos surface of him on. cation with a model who was not his wife and his political career was over but then let's fast forward bill clinton in during the campaign season we have the gennifer flowers scandal we have during his presidency the monica lewinsky scandal and guess what he seems to be the most one of the most beloved present presidents of alive right now so are people changing up people become becoming more forgiving what do you think i think again i'd separate the situation between mr cain and a lot of these other individuals i mean you have fully flirting wiener tweeting larry craig tapping his foot bill clinton in his situation i think right now is there it is mysterious you know i think right now the big problem that people are focused again on the economy the despondent congress the dysfunction the political process and the frustration lies with one of these guys have the time to do this stuff so perhaps if the economy was good and things were good then we could care a

we had done tracking with abc, the first time, and the tracking shows gary hart was in a tie as of thatight. everybody expected that mondale would win the primary even though hart was making a move. there was confusion in the room, and somebody said what's it mean? dad said it means gary hart is probably going to win the pry marry, and -- primary, and walter will have a long ride to sale the nomination, if he can. he had those instincts always. he understood and could see around corners, and it was also obvious to him at other points in other races how things were moving. he was here for everything, to record jimmy carter's rise for reagan's win, for the george hw bush's victory here in 88, bill clinton as come back, pat buchanan, the straight talk express, senator kerry's bounce back, and finally the remarkable events of 2008, which was, of course, his last primary. i think his most famous story was probably the one eluded to in the video, which was the 1972 story about edmund musky, weepy and voice choked with emotion. that was a controversial story. if you never read david'sing's acc

. >> cadell employ withed gary hart who ran against walter mondale in 1984. >> it was very simple. wrote the strategy. second to mondale in iowa, beat him in new hampshire where he was weak and ride the moem member in tun for tw-- momentum for two weeks. he came within a hair of doing that. his unexpectedly strong challenge vindicated cadell's strategy which others would try again and again. in 1988 vice president george h. w. bush was the next frontrunner to get blind sided by a new force in iowa. >> one nation under god. >> the religious right. >> up until that time the evangelical christians had not gotten into politics. if they are earring niezed candidates can win. i set to organize people. >> the people i had not seen in if the caucus before good e gel cal people were sitting with a slip of parp in their hand i am standing there i am a little resentful. they elected their delegates to the county convention and i became an alternate not a delegate. these johnny come lately came in here and organized and taken over our process. >> those johnny come lightlies propelled pat rober

gary hart., they also got scrutinized once evidence came out of their sexual conduct. were those legitimate news stories and is this a legitimate news story? >> two points. yes i guess it is a legitimate news story when somebody running for president is accused of something like this. i tell you what else is legitimate, and in my view at least is legitimate and may be more so, who is the source of this story all these years later about herman cain? now, if politico made a deal with the person, not to mention him or her by name, fine, i have no problem with that. but we have a right to know the motive, the motive of the person who leaked this story. so politico has anable tkpwaeugs, a journalistic obligation tan obligation, a journalistic obligation, the source asked for anna anytime a tee because he works for somebody else's campaign. or he works for the restaurant association took the documents improperly. we have a right to know, that is also legitimate. here is my latest handy, dandy rule of

we tend to elevate them so there is a sense now particularly post jfk and post gary hart and bill clinton narmatter. the tolerance level is a lot smaller and the scrutiny is say lot higher. that's something that even mr. wiener could tell you that you have to be smart and careful and vet through. you have to have answers ready that are sound and justifiable and believable when these things come into the view of the public. certainly you can't sit back and blame the media for doing their job because it's there. at the same time what i think lynwood is talking about is where is that line? is there a light line that does get into the privacy and the private behavior of a candidate? i don't know in this day and age if this exists if it ever did. >> thanks so much for joining us this afternoon. >> we will be back with the gop's christmas card to america's working families. look out, scrooge. ♪ amazing grace will always be my song of praise ♪ ♪ for it was grace that brought me liberty ♪ i'm trading everywhere... on one of the most powerful mobile apps out there. i'm trading here every day. and

ever since the days of gary hart back in the '80s, we can see the best way to handle it is get in front of it. and stwles appear to be in front of the situation that you're being candid and open, and if somebody else is lying, thenitis easier to be able to pin them down, but in this situation, he's constantly being shown running away from reporters. that's not the way you want the public to see you. >> jim, let me ask you a question -- mr. cain, you gave ten days, politico gave them ten days to respond before any of this broke. then when the ten days was up, reporter confronts him, he acts like he doesn't know what you're talking about, yet from this last report posted just a little while ago, you're telling me that board members of the association were aware of this, and were confronted, the general counsel, so this was known throughout the association, so he had to know others knew about this, and for ten days they stalled and then acted as if they were surprised after you came to them? >> not only were the board members aware of it, we talked to a half dozen sources who were aware of

they went after gary hart years ago. when paula jones came forward and said that bill clinton, when he was governor of arkansas exposed himself in front of her in a hotel room, the media virtually ignored that story. >> bill: and attacked paula jones. they attacked her. >> yeah. they said "newsweek," evan thomas said she was sleazy woman with big hair. they slimed her. when yuan net that broderick said she was raped by attorney general, bill clinton, the media virtually ignored that. when kathleen willey came forward and said she was groped in the white house by bill clinton the media virtually ignored that too, herman cain is a totally different story. >> bill: i think it's very obvious to everyone at this point. >> bill: in a moment, reality check selling off john lennon's body parts. you won't believe. this liz cheney whacks bob schieffer on sunday morning. you go next if you had a hoveround power chair? the statue of liberty? the grand canyon? it's all possible with a hoveround. tom: hi i'm tom kruse, inventor and fo

i think of gary hart the second time he ran that after a week or so he had to get out of it.ust don't see how cain withstands the barrage, the constant barrage. >> to take the other side of this for a second, there does seem to be one common thread with what we know about these women who made the accusations so far which is they all have financial problems. the latest one has been evicted multiple times, the latest last week. there is this money hungry sense out there that you can make a deal, you know, with the media if you come out and make accusations against somebody. we've seen it time and again whether they're true or not. isn't that the case? >> yeah. that is a factor, but that even might be a motive, but if the allegations are proven true, then that factor is really irrelevant. it explains some kind of a motivation, but i can't talk about their psychological makeup or their life stories, but what i can talk about is what i don't think a candidate can withstand, the constant and incessant every few weeks another allegation. it just destroys any credibility that somebod

it was like he created this gary hart situation for himself saying, check it all out, i'm clean, put a tail on him. that's what's happening here. he's gotten much further in this race, herman cain has, than he ever expected to. he probably never expected to have this kind of scrutiny into his private life because he figured people would never care. >> bob, let me play a new sound bite from the interview with ms. white, the new accuser. >> i think it's safe to say that after this interview, we can assume that that will be the end of it. but, yes, yes, we have a friendship now. never worked together. i can't imagine phoning or texting me for the late 2 1/2 years just because. >> i don't know what she says is over their friendship or whatever, but newt gingrich, you're writing about, you're saying that something will splash over on him. but let's look at this graph showing that gingrich should have been dead this summer. in june, he was at 6.7% in the polls. went down to 4.9% in july. august, went up to 5.5%. september, up to 6.8%. october, 9.3%. now he's at 23.8%. what happened, bob? >

we had done tracking with abc, the first time, and the tracking shows gary hart was in a tie as of thatight. everybody expected that mondale would win the primary even though hart was making a move. there was confusion in the room, and somebody said what's it mean? dad said it means gary hart is probably going to win the pry marry, and -- primary, and walter will have a long ride to sale the nomination, if he can. he had those instincts always. he understood and could see around corners, and it was also obvious to him at other points in other races how things were moving. he was here for everything, to record jimmy carter's rise for reagan's win, for the george hw bush's victory here in 88, bill clinton as come back, pat buchanan, the straight talk express, senator kerry's bounce back, and finally the remarkable events of 2008, which was, of course, his last primary. i think his most famous story was probably the one eluded to in the video, which was the 1972 story about edmund musky, weepy and voice choked with emotion. that was a controversial story. if you never read david'sing's acc

ask gary hart, ask john kerry. mitt romney.llegal immigrants at the house, it happens. >> ken, do you agree? do you agree that race is playing a role in this? >> no. look, i think his conservatism is playing a role in it. in the public arena, people use hyperbole, they use over-the-top language on the right and the left. look, the truth loves sunlight. and what we need to do is to put more sunlight on this. right now, as we are talking tonight, in terms of public evidence, there is not substantial evidence to support a finding of sexual harassment. but neither would i want to sit here tonight and make little of the whole notion of sexual harassment in the workplace. that is very aggressive behavior. it is not just flirtation. >> right. >> it is not just suggestive language. it is, in fact, aggressive behavior. we need to get to the bottom of this and we need to get to the bottom of this soon. >> do you believe -- >> from the -- >> from the cain's campaign standpoint, they have mishandled this situation. you have to gather your