guest: the background is that in the late 1970's, early 1980's, gary hart was an expert in defense reformin 2011, president obama asked senator hart if he would put together a commission to say if obama wanted to change the pentagon, what would he do? hark prepared this memo and sent it to the president and never heard back. i think the reason is that presidents are swamped with emergencies or did they do the most important ones first in this did not seem that important. host: frank, in new york. go ahead. let's go to dan in texas. go ahead. caller: my name is mac. sorry. i served in the air force in 1970. i get tickled about the f 35. i flew an all-purpose aircraft called the f1 11. you're probably old enough to remember. guest: the granddaddy of the f 35. caller: the f1 11 was supposed to have been -- they found out when they made it, it was too heavy. i had an uncle that was an engineer. family problem, i got called back to active duty in 1990 and served until 2011. i've seen and heard it all. the part i know is i was it young radical in 1970. i found out one afternoon, those guys were

attention, make it equivalent and there are other suggestions based on a confidential report that gary hart prepared. assessing - paying more attention to something that is a large share of the presence in the world. . >> it's a thought provoking piece in the atlantic. thank you for joining us. we'll be back with more of "consider this". [[vo]] rock star astronaut chris hadfield. >>everything i've done has been fun stuff. [[vo]] mind-blowing discoveries & >>it's on the edge of impossible. [[vo]] terrifying near-death experiences & >>if it had been higher, it'd hit us. [[vo]] and an exciting future that's closer than you think. >>go from being an air traveller to being a space traveller. >>you see it as the future. >>i see it as inevitable. [[vo]] every monday, join us for exclusive, revealing and surprising talks with the most interesting people of our time. >> call amy smith at work >> when we're behind the wheel >> basically we just don't multi-task as well as we think... >> are we focused on what's ahead? >> what could those misses mean? >> distracted driving... the new road hazard >> i'

attention, make it equivalent and there are other suggestions based on a confidential report that gary hart prepared. assessing - paying more attention to something that is a large share of the presence in the world. . >> it's a thought provoking piece in the atlantic. thank you for joining us. we'll be back with more of "consider this". well, at one time, i felt that selling cocaine was my purpose. >> we was starvin', just lookin' for a way to succeed. >> the first time i seen rock cocaine was 1980. >> the murder rate was sky-high. >> south of the 10 freeway, was kind of a "no-man's land". >> you know, we're selling it for the blacks. i said, you go into these neighborhoods, there's no cops you can sell it where you want and when they start killing each other, nobody cares. >> i was going through like a million dollars worth of drugs just about every day. >> that's like gold! >> we can make a fortune! >> he was maybe the biggest guy in l.a. >> freeway rick was getting his dope from a very big operator. i think we're into something that's bigger than us. something we really can't deal with.

guest: the background is that in the late 70's, early 80's -- late 1970's, early 1980's, gary hart wasn expert in defense reform. in 2011, president obama asked senator hart if he would put together a commission to say if obama wanted to change the pentagon, what would he do? hark prepared this memo and sent it to the president and never heard back. i think the reason is that presidents are swamped with emergencies or did they do the most important ones first in this did not seem that important. host: frank, in new york. go ahead. let's go to dan in texas. the morning, go ahead. caller: my name is mac. sorry. i served in the air force in 1970. i get tickled about the f 35. i flew an all-purpose aircraft called the f1 11. you're probably old enough to remember. guest: the granddaddy of the f 35. caller: the f1 11 was supposed to have been -- they found out when they mated it was too heavy. i had an uncle that was an engineer. family problem, i got called back to active duty in 1990 and served until 2011. i've seen and heard it all. the part i know is i was it young radical in 1970. i fo

when senator gary hart's campaign was struggling in 1984 senator hart said get me a russert. that every political operative in washington dreams of get me a russert. they all want their name at the end of that sentence get me a russert. but tim certainly didn't think he was on his way to becoming that kind of legendary political figure in his first year in washington. about that first year, he wrote -- >> one day tim confessed this to senator moynihan saying that half the time he didn't understand what some of the staff was talking about. the senator burst out laughing. there was no one in his senate office that he felt closer to than tim russert. pat moynihan and tim russert were a couple of irish guys that grew up in city where is no one handed them anything. tim russert worked on a garbage truck to pay for his education. pat moynihan shined shoes in times square. tim's father always had a steady job drivering a newspaper delivery truck. pat moynihan's father abandoned the family when pat was 10 years old. pat's mother was a bar tender in hell's kitchen. moynihan valued pol

gary hart got 19%, came in second in iowa and we barely won the nomination. matter. these early polls just sort of set up the race. more people want jeb and mitt to run and hillary to run. >> most interesting battle right now is between jeb and mitt. >> when i left in october to run reagan's re-election campaign they were ahead reagan-mondale was so it moves fast. >> you turned that around. >> he turned it around. >> reagan turned it around. >> me and bob bibbing -- bickel. >> always great to see you both. thank you. >> we like your gray beard there. >> thank you. >> keep it. all right. jon scott is coming up quickly. "happening now" rolls your way. >> we'll talk about republican strategy, bill gearing up for 2016 and a new move for the g.o.p. why the republican national committee has drastically removed the number of debates. how it hopes the race will play out in the media this time around. two-week multi crime spree comes to an end for a pair of teenagers accused of forgery, theft and what they face now. the secret service ramping up security near vice pre

gary hart here first before had time read tweed it.k del rio the guy for the raiders and and i made the announcement as early as today. probably woken up already and started reading those reports yourself right? . reported at less than on kron had it with few. we know that in this for a renovated yearly report less now he's the guy. get the tape. west said was we been talking about this and i said yesterday bring a guy back for such an interview at the guy obviously wants the job a native of hayward. if it's a clean no one else that's interesting and said hey he probably be the guy unless he was an interview. that's different from is been saying their sources say he is the guy as of today. terry reports to i have to go to twitter in the middle of the night to earn your respects. but on opposite follows six months ago people started turning espn because of various places around the country that come up with stories and espn would take the stories and say they're reporting and they have a slowdown a little bit on that if. why such as sen