basically what gary hart was saying, look, back in 1987, the dude didn't shut up.of joe biden and certainly people who have known him for a long time, it wasn't just 1987. as hart said in 2008 when barack obama chose biden to be his vice president hart said, oh, boy, this guy is going to talk a lot in cabinet meetings. they all told me he has mellowed with age but that's another way of saying he talks a little less. obviously in 1987 it was his talking that got him into trouble in the first place. >> his positions where he is politically probably hasn't changed so much, but his perspective on life maybe has a little bit. he just seems a little bit different. >> yeah. he's a little bit older, little more mature, but you're right. politically speaking he's always been very careful about being right in the center of the democratic party even when he doesn't put it that way. but hart was really interesting in particular about this. i asked him about that question of where he -- how he positioned himself, how he's changed politically and hart went through this whole pro

i watched his friendship with gary hart during the 1984 campaign when beatty would parachute in from one around hart who could talk to him in a blunt way. he said top talking and acting like a politician in a way nobody else could and hart would listen to him. i saw vernon jordan and the role he played with bill clinton in the 1990s when he was the only one around him who had actual stature and could speak to him in a way nobody else could. so i saw an entirely different kind of relationship between a leader and anybody else around them. i saw how this best friend could speak more bluntly, act more naturally to any staffer or aide. and in some cases, as i write in my book, actually affect important policy. i went to presidential literature and saw books about first wives, first chefs, first butlers, but there was nothing about this dynamic so i thought why not write it. >> and you begin with an extraordinary pair, thomas jefferson and james madison. and the reason i find them so fascinating is this is really a case of opposites attracting. they were so different in so many ways, yet y

staffer could and speak more bluntly, act more naturally and i thought with warren beatty and the gary hartn and fly into major events and speak to the candidates the way no one else around him would at the time and he would say all the time, stop acting and talking like a politician, gary. and gary would get quite roused by that, but he would listen and he would change the way he spoke. and i often thought he would at night with late night conversations and dinners. and i felt the same dynamic was at play in the bill clinton campaign with vernon jordan and how they were of equal stature and what that allowed clinton to get from jordan the way he wouldn't from anyone else in the administration himself mth former clinton administration aid and author of first friends, gary ginsburg, talks about the political influence wielded by confidantes and close friends of u.s. presidents. sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q & a. you can listen as a podcast, wherever you get your podcasts. federal reserve chair jerome powell held a news conference yesterday to discuss monetary policy and the econ

so much for gary hart. a few years later cars carson turned to another name on the 1988 halat, republican dan quayle was elected vice president. carson's bar shape the narrative of a vice presidents and something of an unprepared halfwit and a received attention across the land is over and over the mockery continued in this shape the public's identity in many ways of vice president quayle because vice presidents don't get a lot to do and they don't get a lot of media attention in the area where the impact for framing is the greatest is what is known about a person. in all honesty quayle did not help his attempts to make himself come across as a serious political figure when he criticized murphy brown a fictional character on television on the popular sitcom for contributing to the moral decline of the united states. carson quips, do you get the feeling that dan quayle doesn't have a full set of irons? when he retired in may of 1992 johnny carson used his final monologue to thank dan quayle for providing him

the first one was gary hart's 1984 campaign. arachute in for the most important events. he was the only person around hart who could tell -- talk to him and tell him in a way, he would say to him stop talking and acting like a politician in a way that no other aide or staffer could. hart would listen in a way he wouldn't to any other staffer or aide. at the same time, beatty would relax with these late night meals and conversations and give him the respite that he needed. then i saw it again in 1992 with bill clinton's campaign and then his presidency with his best friend, vernon jordan and how he had equal stature and didn't need or want anything from him. it created a really special dynamic. so i looked in presidential literature to see if there had been anything written with these first friends. i realized there had been books about first wives, first chefs, first butlers, first pets, but nothing about the first friend so i thought i would fill it. as you pointed out in your introduction, the lack of a first friend in the pres

i saw with warren beatty and the gary hart campaign, how he would fly in for major campaign event, andate in a way no one else around him would , and he would say, stop acting and talking like a politician, gary. gary would listen and change the way he spoke. i also saw how he would relax in late-night conversations and late-night dinners. i saw the same dynamic in the bill clinton campaign with vernon jordan, and how they were of equal stature, and what that allowed clinton to get from jordan, in a way he could not get from anyone else you worked on the campaign and in the administration himself. >> former clinton administration aide, and author of first friends, gary ginsberg, talks about political influence wielded by confidantes and friends of u.s. presidents, sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span q&a. you can also listen to una as a podcast wherever you get your podcasts. ♪ >> next, a discussion on infrastructure investment in the developing world. panelists talk about the challenges and opportunities of global infrastructure development projects. they will also discuss the g-7 g

remember gary hart? met a woman on an island and he was destroyed.s a job and is running for reelection, i've never seen anything like it. >> greg: he truly is the brian kilmeade of governors. >> brian: not true, not an apt analogy. how dare you. i helped your show. you hurt my career. what's wrong with you? >> greg: there is a lot wrong with me. >> brian: you could've said that to any of these three. i tried to give some substance. >> greg: i was listening to you. >> brian: you weren't even paying attention. >> greg: i always do. dagen, the media hates what we do because it's not for them. when you look at what they're doing, it's always for the media, that's my point i was trying to make to brian which he went on some weird tangent. avenatti members of the media who pay attention to these two are jealous simply because they want the path to be as easy as it was for these two. they would not be anywhere if not for daddy. andy cuomo will be selling catheters door-to-door. >> greg: don't knock it. >> dagen: chris cuomo couldn't get cast in the neighbo

remember gary hart? met a woman on an island and he was destroyed. how this guy has a still has a job and is running for reelection, i've never seen anything like it. >> greg: he truly is the brian kilmeade of governors. >> brian: not true, not an apt analogy. how dare you. i helped your show. you hurt my career. what's wrong with you? >> greg: there is a lot wrong with me. >> brian: you could've said that to any of these three. i tried to give some substance. >> greg: i was listening to you. >> brian: you weren't even paying attention. >> greg: i always do. dagen, the media hates what we do because it's not for them. when you look at what they're doing, it's always for the media, that's my point i was trying to make to brian which he went on some weird tangent. avenatti members of the media who pay attention to these two are jealous simply because they want the path to be as easy as it was for these two. they would not be anywhere if not for daddy. andy cuomo will be selling catheters door-to-door. >> greg: don't knock it. >> dagen: chris cuomo coul

i saw it with warren beatty in the gary hart campaign, how they would fly in for major campaign events and speak to the candidate in a way no one else around them would. and they would say stop acting and talking like a politician and gary would get roused but would listen and change the way he spoke. i also saw how he would relax. and then at night it late night dinners. i saw the same dynamic in the bill clinton campaign with vernon jordan and how they were of equal stature and what that allowed clinton to get from jordan, in a way he could not from anyone else who worked on the campaign and then in the administration itself. >> former clinton administration aid and author first friends, gary ginsberg, talks about the political influence wielded by confidence and close friends of u.s. presidents, sunday night at 8:00 he turn on c-span q&a. you can also listen to q&a as a podcast wherever you get your podcasts. ♪ >> c-span is your unfiltered view of government. we are funded by these television companies and more, including midco. ♪

i thought with warren beatty and the gary hart campaign, he would say all the time, stop talking likeolitician. he would listen, and he would change the way he spoke. the same dynamic at play in the bill clinton campaign, how they were of equal stature. >> former clinton administration aide and author of "first friends" gary ginsberg talks about the political influence wielded by close friends of u.s. presidents sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's "q&a." you can also listen to "q&a." >> the house of representatives reinstated its mask mandate on tuesday with the house attending physician saying it follows the cdc's new recommendation that even vaccinated people wear masks indoors in areas with substantial covid-19 transmission. on the house floor, minority leader mike mccarthy criticized the mandate and said the cdc made its decision based on faulty science. we will show you his speech followed by a response from democratic congressman tim ryan. and to this bill. mr. speaker, earlier today, the speaker of the house said that people who are fully vaccinated but don't support weari

i thought with warren beatty and the gary hart campaign. they can speak to the candidate in a way no one else would at the time and say, would say stop talking like a politician. he would listen and change the way he spoke. i saw how he would relax for late-night conversations and then, i saw the same dynamic play in the bill clinton campaign with vernon jordan and how they were of equal stature and what that allowed. clinton could get from jordan what he couldn't from anyone else in the campaign and administration itself. >> gary ginsberg talks about the political influence wheeled by confidants and close friends of u.s. presidents sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span's "q and >> c-spanshop.org is the c-span online sure -- start with a collection of c-span products. your purchase will support our nonprofit operations and you still have time to order the congressional directory, with contact information for members of congress and the biden administration. go to c-span shop.org. >> health and human services assistant secretary dr. ra

and i saw with warren beatty and the gary hart campaign, how he would speak to the candidate in a waynobody else around him would at the time and he would say all the time, stop talking like a politician, gary. gary would listen and you would change the way he spoke. and eye so he would relax. and at night they would have great conversations. and i saw the same dynamic with vernon jordan and bill clinton, how they were of equal stature and how that allowed jordan to get to clinton in a way no one else could. announcer: former clinton aide and author gary ginsberg talks about the political influence of close friends on u.s. presidents, sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern. you can listen wherever you get your podcasts. announcer: "washington journal" continues. host: robert field is here to talk about the legality of vaccine mandates. professor, first, let's talk about the word mandate. what does it legally mean? guest: what you want it to mean. it means different things in different contexts. a community government directive that you have to have a vaccine or pay penalty. it can mean a p

speak more bluntly and i saw it with warren beatty and the gary hart campaign.ay all of the time stop acting and talking like a politician. he would listen. and he would listen -- and he would change the way he spoke. late night conversations and i saw the same dynamic on the bill clinton campaign and vernon jordan and how they were of equal stature. >> former clinton aide gary ginsberg talks about the political influence of close friends and confidantes of the president. you can listen to q&a wherever you get your podcast. >> washington journal continues. host: this is a part of the program we call open forum. if it is of interest of politics to you when you want to talk about it, you can call the phone lines. 202-748-8000 four democrats. republicans 202-748-8001 independents 202-748-8002. the washington post taking a look at the biden administration saying they are going to resume fast-track deportation. they plan to resume both expedited removal flights following another sharp increase of the number of central american families crossing into the rio grande va