that building this trust between citizens and the waterloo police department is a, a top priority gary mcfadden the homicide detective, very well-known homicide mcfadden from charlotte, north carolina was on this program just a few weeks ago. i asked him a little bit about, does it start with the police chief and end with the police chief? and does the police chief end up as a scapegoat for actions of his or her officers? what do you think about that? >> i do. i've got a 21-year-old and a nine-year-old. so at some point this analogy breaks down but walk with me for a little bit. you don't put me in the jail for the crimes of my 21-year-old. now, you expect me to teach them how to be upright citizens, you expect me to teach how to be moral, you expect me to teach them how to obey authority. at some point, it's my ultimate responsibility because i'm a the thing i love about america and democracy, everybody has to stand on their own merit. does it end with the chief, to some degree. he's an influencer, he's setting pace and culture. his officers have a right to agree or not to agree with that the

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