we did it when we were kids, laurie metcalf, gary sinise, et cetera, et cetera. that i had proclivity for wanting to fit in. kind of like woody allen's "zelig." legal be okay, let there be no confrontation. and that was like, you know, peck where there's blood for young malkovich. he said, i'm casting you as every freak i can think of. you're going to be the transvestite. then you're going to have brain damage. then you're going to do something else. >> jimmy: did you have to go through the process of shaving your legs and really getting -- seems like it would be a pain. >> my daughter zoe perry was about 2 1/2. and she'd be playing around on the floor of the theater. my ex-wife is laurie metcalf. and a good buddy of mine, a great woman actress, rest in peace, is gone, she did my makeup. man, she was great at it. she did everything. now we're shaving the legs, doing this. zoe's looking at me. in my mind i'm thinking, hm. you know, 15 years from now, ish, what kind of psychiatric bills are going to be coming my way? oh, well. >> jimmy: and she's okay? >> she's oka